It's pretty sad that people like this exist in America

[shiahazara]

http://allaboutgq.blogspot.com/

AFGHAN_ZMARAI, you have a new buddy to go tag along with.

[pacora]

your main focus on this forum seems to argue with other muslims who are not shite and make others looks bad.

[shiahazara]

your main focus on this forum seems to argue with other muslims who are not shite and make others looks bad.

Your main focus is to slander.

[vaz8623]

Explain why Afghan_Zmarai has a new buddy?

[shiahazara]

Explain why Afghan_Zmarai has a new buddy?

He shares the same views as the blog author.

[vaz8623]

He shares the same views as the blog author.
So tell me...why is that an issue?

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

http://allaboutgq.blogspot.com/

AFGHAN_ZMARAI, you have a new buddy to go tag along with.


here's your new buddy to tag along with.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/Gallery/mollah.JPG


correct your own Shi'as first before trying to accuse people of being Wahhabis.

[Fatty4life]

I predict 12 pages, easily.


I made the first page!:dance3:

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

He shares the same views as the blog author.


for example?

[americanmohit]

here's your new buddy to tag along with.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/Gallery/mollah.JPG


correct your own Shi'as first before trying to accuse people of being Wahhabis.


:wtf:

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

:wtf:


yeah exactly


Shiahazara is saying I share the same views as this Wahhabi


but Shiahazara shares the same views as this Shi'a Imam Pedophile.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/Gallery/mollah.JPG

[selina_786]

here's your new buddy to tag along with.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/Gallery/mollah.JPG


correct your own Shi'as first before trying to accuse people of being Wahhabis.
That is vile. :Puke:

[shiahazara]

for example?


http://allaboutgq.blogspot.com/2006/04/my-thoughts-and-zacarias-moussaoui.html

http://allaboutgq.blogspot.com/2006/04/dirty-kaffiras.html

http://allaboutgq.blogspot.com/2006/03/magnificent-nineteen-terrorists.html

http://allaboutgq.blogspot.com/2006/03/i-am-what-i-am.html

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

http://allaboutgq.blogspot.com/2006/04/my-thoughts-and-zacarias-moussaoui.html

http://allaboutgq.blogspot.com/2006/04/dirty-kaffiras.html

http://allaboutgq.blogspot.com/2006/03/magnificent-nineteen-terrorists.html

http://allaboutgq.blogspot.com/2006/03/i-am-what-i-am.html


I share none of these views .....dont accuse people without evidence this goes against the Shariah.

[selina_786]

Someone get the popcorn.. another get me a bottle of coca cola.


I want to relax and enjoy this for a few hours...

[vaz8623]

Afghan_Zmarai - are you trying to degrade Shia MUSLIMS?!!

[pacora]

Your main focus is to slander.
you need to stop trying to start shite sunni whabbi wars ok. and i would also like to ask you why shiteism started after the prophets death and it didnt even exist when he was around. because a lot of shites make up bs. so stfu.

[vaz8623]

Someone get the popcorn.. another get me a bottle of coca cola.


I want to relax and enjoy this for a few hours...
Join in :dance3:

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

Afghan_Zmarai - are you trying to degrade Shia MUSLIMS?!!


Well first of all None can degrade the Shi'a except their own 'aqidah.

The Shi'a do ghalat much like the Wahhabis do , and this is a sign of their ghalat.

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

That is vile. :Puke:


Shiahazara doesnt think so.

[HERCS]

here's your new buddy to tag along with.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/Gallery/mollah.JPG


correct your own Shi'as first before trying to accuse people of being Wahhabis.

ok thats sick...

[selina_786]

Join in :dance3:
:joy:

Well you might as well order a pizza

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

ok thats sick...


THats Shi'ism. Now it should be clear why they are as dangerous as Wahhabis.

[Shh! Dont tell]

Okay.





so?

[NYzNiCCa]

here's your new buddy to tag along with.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/Gallery/mollah.JPG


correct your own Shi'as first before trying to accuse people of being Wahhabis.

:wtf: is this plz tell me thats fake somehow! :neutral:

[Shh! Dont tell]

THats Shi'ism. Now it should be clear why they are as dangerous as Wahhabis.
Could u explain to me what wahhabis are and shi'ism?

[shiahazara]

THats Shi'ism. Now it should be clear why they are as dangerous as Wahhabis.

Quit spreading lies nasibi.

[pacora]

why must all the muslims fight amonst one another. you are all muslim.

[vaz8623]

Well first of all None can degrade the Shi'a except their own 'aqidah.

The Shi'a do ghalat much like the Wahhabis do , and this is a sign of their ghalat.
Lisen..man i didnt understand much of what you just said
All i can say to you is that they are muslims just as you and i,stop this sectarian nonesense
There are corrupt and ill minded leaders in all walks of life

[HERCS]

THats Shi'ism. Now it should be clear why they are as dangerous as Wahhabis.

i have relatives who r shia, i dont regard em as dangerous...at da end of da day, everyone of us has our own graves....as long as they r nice human being...not some physchos...

[vaz8623]

:joy:

Well you might as well order a pizza
I know this good halal pizza place or should we just order a vegetarian form Pizza hut? :hyper:

[NYzNiCCa]

fuck is wrong with u dumbass muthafuckers making fun of your own people? make these kinda threads in the religious section. As for shia ***** who made the thread u a stupid fuck urself....i can find websites where shia are talking shit about sunni's. Now please take this shit somewhere else u lil tard!

[selina_786]

I know this good halal pizza place or should we just order a vegetarian form Pizza hut? :hyper:
No, please not pizza hut.

Make it dominoes, margherita and garlic pizza bread.. along with potatoe wedges and a few garlic and herb dips.

Oh and dont forget chocolate dessert... oooh how can I forget my bottle of coke too :love:

Can you handle it? :P

[NYzNiCCa]

No, please not pizza hut.

Make it dominoes, margherita and garlic pizza bread.. along with potatoe wedges and a few garlic and herb dips.

Oh and dont forget chocolate dessert... oooh how can I forget my bottle of coke too :love:

Can you handle it? :P

dominoes is disugsting...their pizza taste like shit. :Puker:

[Just Like Heaven]

wow..... afghan why are u promoting hatred...
we are all muslim PERIOD.

the person who made this thread if afghan upset u , u shud have been the better person and NOT BASH HIM BACK but have a n intellectual discussion
with him and discuss ur views...

[HERCS]

why must all the muslims fight amonst one another. you are all muslim.

lol...islam is 1...but theres so many sections...its like muslims r practising some other religion and label that as islam...obviously u'll have every sections saying they r da right one..they r following the right leader..... but only god knows who among em is da righteous one... :p

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

Shiahazara , a word for you.

Just because this induvidual has contempt for Shi'as and the Ghalati 'aqidah of the Ithna Ashari. Does not mean I am a Wahhabim because I oppose the sick beliefs of your sect. Many Ulemah before Wahhabiyah became a entity have spoken against the errorneous and corrupt beliefs of the Shi'a.

To name a few you can reference

Shaikh Ahmad Faruq Sarhandi(quddus Allah Sirhu)
Shaikh Qutubuddin Ibn Abdur Rahim(quddus Allah Sirhu)[Shah Waliyullah]
Shaikh Muhiyuddin Ibn 'Arabi(Quddus Allah Sirhu)
Shaikh Abdul Qadir Jilani(Quddus Allah Sirhu)
Shaikh Sayed Ali Hujwari(Quddus Allah Sirhu)

As you can see , these men on top of being Great Ulemah of Fiqh , were also the 'Urafa of Ilm Al Tasawwuf, so you know that these men could in no way be Wahhabi. Yet these men have written time and time again against the deviated ideas of Shi'ism.

But regardless of the errorneous beliefs of the Wahhabis or this Wahhabi inclined induvidual , nothing he says there and I mean , absolutely nothing can compare to the vile perverse molestation that one of your "respected" Imams, is doing to that poor young boy. It's

[selina_786]

dominoes is disugsting...their pizza taste like shit. :Puker:
:slap2:

Better than Pizza crapped hut, they have thick dough and strong cheese on their pizzas.. I hate smelly cheese.

[MolviCorleone]

No, please not pizza hut.

Make it dominoes, margherita and garlic pizza bread.. along with potatoe wedges and a few garlic and herb dips.

Oh and dont forget chocolate dessert... oooh how can I forget my bottle of coke too :love:

Can you handle it? :P

moti

[MrHarmfulOne]

The guy seems to be kinda hardcore, but it looks like his sister died.. maybe this caused some of his beliefs..? who knows...

[vaz8623]

No, please not pizza hut.

Make it dominoes, margherita and garlic pizza bread.. along with potatoe wedges and a few garlic and herb dips.

Oh and dont forget chocolate dessert... oooh how can I forget my bottle of coke too :love:

Can you handle it? :P
Small girl with a big appetite i see! :p
I'm sure i'll polish off your leftovers which will be nothing!lol

[selina_786]

moti
Oh ho mangetraaaaaaaaa... keh haal chaal un?

[NYzNiCCa]

moti

whos that browny in ur sig who looks like me? :neutral:

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

wow..... afghan why are u promoting hatred...
we are all muslim PERIOD.

the person who made this thread if afghan upset u , u shud have been the better person and NOT BASH HIM BACK but have a n intellectual discussion
with him and discuss ur views...


Well its not cut and dry like that. There is no "period" especially in this regards.

To be a Muslim depends on what type of beliefs you have , this is called 'aqidah. The reality is that the 'aqidah of the Shi'a is deviated. This is called Ghalat. It's a duty to state the truth , and to have love based on falsehood is more wicked than to oppose based on truth.It is the SHahada that makes someone a Muslim , but its their 'aqidah and 'amalat that keeps you a Muslim. That photo is a physical representation of how far GHALAT can go.

[selina_786]

Small girl with a big appetite i see! :p
I'm sure i'll polish off your leftovers which will be nothing!lol
:P I love me food.

I promise to leave you some leftovers if you promise to give me all the pizza crusts LOL.. I love them with garlic and herb dip :yum:

[vaz8623]

wow..... afghan why are u promoting hatred...
we are all muslim PERIOD.

the person who made this thread if afghan upset u , u shud have been the better person and NOT BASH HIM BACK but have a n intellectual discussion
with him and discuss ur views...
Alhamdullilah - let me shake your hand

[scorpio_]

dominoes owns

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

Lisen..man i didnt understand much of what you just said
All i can say to you is that they are muslims just as you and i,stop this sectarian nonesense
There are corrupt and ill minded leaders in all walks of life
Vaz you dont understand the facts behind this.

Brother, what would you say about people who say that people can get married for one hour? Is this a belief which a Muslim can have ?

[selina_786]

dominoes owns
:Peace:

Whether its the game or pizza.

:D

[NYzNiCCa]

Well its not cut and dry like that. There is no "period" especially in this regards.

To be a Muslim depends on what type of beliefs you have , this is called 'aqidah. The reality is that the 'aqidah of the Shi'a is deviated. This is called Ghalat. It's a duty to state the truth , and to have love based on falsehood is more wicked than to oppose based on truth.It is the SHahada that makes someone a Muslim , but its their 'aqidah and 'amalat that keeps you a Muslim. That photo is a physical representation of how far GHALAT can go.

stop preaching when u sit around on a website that promotes one night stands with online hoes who are flaunting their bodies like nothing. Pathetic!

[Just Like Heaven]

Alhamdullilah - let me shake your hand
ur not mahrum that wud be a sin :p lol

[vaz8623]

:P I love me food.

I promise to leave you some leftovers if you promise to give me all the pizza crusts LOL.. I love them with garlic and herb dip :yum:
Thata would be perfect,i never fancy the crusts so they are all yours.
Cant i share the choc dessert? :D You have the Coke,i'll have water :D

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

Could u explain to me what wahhabis are and shi'ism?


Wahhabis are a sect which started in rebellion against pure Islam. Shi'a is also a sect which started in rebellion against pure Islam. Although Wahhabis and Shi'a revile each other, they are actually much alike. Share comparable ideas, which have no basis in the Islamic religion.

[vaz8623]

ur not mahrum that wud be a sin :p lol
:rofl: *vaz retracts his hand* :Oops:

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

stop preaching when u sit around on a website that promotes one night stands with online hoes who are flaunting their bodies like nothing. Pathetic!


Yes and I'm the one who condemns and exposes the shamefullness of all those.

Now if i were say glorifying or celebrating any of that your statement would be right.

[selina_786]

Thata would be perfect,i never fancy the crusts so they are all yours.
Cant i share the choc dessert? :D You have the Coke,i'll have water :D
Oh yes, you can share the chocolate dessert.. its tiny but strong chocolate.. can't handle it all :(

water with pizza? I wish I could do that.

[>MNT< clanz]

haha too late

[>MNT< clanz]

vaat u vant from me

[Just Like Heaven]

:rofl: *vaz retracts his hand* :Oops:
:rofl: if only i was that good of a muslim :no:

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

:wtf: is this plz tell me thats fake somehow! :neutral:

No its not fake , this is a picture of a widely respected and revered Shi'a Imam. They dont view things like this as forbidden ,this is normal to them.

[HERCS]

Vaz you dont understand the facts behind this.

Brother, what would you say about people who say that people can get married for one hour? Is this a belief which a Muslim can have ?

so wht u wanna do about that? diss em? make fun of em? ..how u know da section u r following is the right one? ...for marriage...if u have brain..obviously u can think that marriage is meant to be forever...long term...if u wanna wanna marry for 1 hr...just to have a halal screw.....its not right...and if theres ppl who think it is right coz their religion say its right..then they r just not using their brain to think wisely...if ppl dont wanna use their brain...theres nuthin much u can do...so no point creating rift...

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

:rofl: if only i was that good of a muslim :no:


How good of a Muslim you are is in your power , the only remorse we should have is why we dont follow through.

[selina_786]

WTF... this thread is a disgrace.


Muslims bashing muslims... Lets go offtopic.. Vaz where are you?

[vaz8623]

Wahhabis are a sect which started in rebellion against pure Islam. Shi'a is also a sect which started in rebellion against pure Islam. Although Wahhabis and Shi'a revile each other, they are actually much alike. Share comparable ideas, which have no basis in the Islamic religion.
All the shia do is believe in ahlul-bayt,there is nothing wrong with that.
Dont class every shia as the same,there are different sects within that sect

[NYzNiCCa]

Yes and I'm the one who condemns and exposes the shamefullness of all those.

Now if i were say glorifying or celebrating any of that your statement would be right.

wasting time is Gunnah.....go do something productive.....go preach bout how being gay is haram....i recently read how 2 guys got married in afghanistan.

[Just Like Heaven]

How good of a Muslim you are is in your power , the only remorse we should have is why we dont follow through.
agreed :neutral:

[vaz8623]

WTF... this thread is a disgrace.


Muslims bashing muslims... Lets go offtopic.. Vaz where are you?
Vaz is here :dance3:
Chal yaari,kaana ka leeya?

[NYzNiCCa]

WTF... this thread is a disgrace.


Muslims bashing muslims... Lets go offtopic.. Vaz where are you?

stop flirting in this thread....:slap2:

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

so wht u wanna do about that? diss em? make fun of em? ..how u know da section u r following is the right one? ...for marriage...if u have brain..obviously u can think that marriage is meant to be forever...long term...if u wanna wanna marry for 1 hr...just to have a halal screw.....its not right...and if theres ppl who think it is right coz their religion say its right..then they r just not using their brain to think wisely...if ppl dont wanna use their brain...theres nuthin much u can do...so no point creating rift...


Well the Shi'a belief is that temporary marriage , which in 'Arabic is called Zawaj Al Mut'a and Persian called "Sighe" is Halal. The Contract of Zawaj Al Mut'a can be contracted anywhere from 1 hour to 99 years, however the purpose is that its a temporal contract which is given a specified limitation of time.

What I want to do is expose that beliefs like these cannot in anyway be apart of Islam and that Muslims in general need to be aware of this instead of blindly embracing people who hold these beliefs.

[>MNT< clanz]

u guyz are stupid arguing over this...do u htink nazis/ skin heads / americans will stop to ask u 'oh exceuse me before i kill sir/ ma'am i need to no are u a shia or sunni or wahabbi'...guyz it dont matter for NOW

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

wasting time is Gunnah.....go do something productive.....go preach bout how being gay is haram....i recently read how 2 guys got married in afghanistan.


well if you feel that wasting time is a gunnah , then lets start with you.

I dont feel saying the Truth is EVER a waste of time especially since this is a medium which truth can be projected to a audience.

now as for the 2 guys that got married, that was shown to be a hoax.

[selina_786]

Vaz is here :dance3:
Chal yaari,kaana ka leeya?
Kaana ka leeya?

Oh oh Yes yes, I sort of ate.. actually oh crap.

I haven't had roti today :neutral:

OK brb... I'm feeling peckish.

[vaz8623]

:rofl: if only i was that good of a muslim :no:
Me too :neutral:
*vaz holds out hand again*lol

[>MNT< clanz]

Well the Shi'a belief is that temporary marriage , which in 'Arabic is called Zawaj Al Mut'a and Persian called "Sighe" is Halal. The Contract of Zawaj Al Mut'a can be contracted anywhere from 1 hour to 99 years, however the purpose is that its a temporal contract which is given a specified limitation of time.

What I want to do is expose that beliefs like these cannot in anyway be apart of Islam and that Muslims in general need to be aware of this instead of blindly embracing people who hold these beliefs.
ya they made it so they can go to datedesi.com for an hour do their business and get a divorce :Pelvic2:

[NYzNiCCa]

well if you feel that wasting time is a gunnah , then lets start with you.

I dont feel saying the Truth is EVER a waste of time especially since this is a medium which truth can be projected to a audience.

now as for the 2 guys that got married, that was shown to be a hoax.

im not sitting here preaching about PURE ISLAM and NON PURE ISLAM.....so if u gonna follow pure islam try sticking to it and follow fromo top to bottom. Stop enforcing ur beliefs onto others when u dont follow it urself.

was it a hoax or those 2 homos came up missing? :lol:

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

All the shia do is believe in ahlul-bayt,there is nothing wrong with that.
Dont class every shia as the same,there are different sects within that sect


No vaz , thats not all they do , if it was just believing in the Virtuous character of the Family of Nabi(saw)(Ahl Ul bayt) then there would be nothing wrong with them.

In fact to love the Ahl Ul bayt is something even Sunnis are encouraged to do.

There is more to Shi'asm than "loving the Ahl ul Bayt".

There is also attacking and slandering Bibi Aisha(ra) , the wife of Nabi(saw)
promoting temporary marriages as permissible
Claiming that Certain Human beings are the "Face of Allah", and so on.

[HERCS]

Well the Shi'a belief is that temporary marriage , which in 'Arabic is called Zawaj Al Mut'a and Persian called "Sighe" is Halal. The Contract of Zawaj Al Mut'a can be contracted anywhere from 1 hour to 99 years, however the purpose is that its a temporal contract which is given a specified limitation of time.

What I want to do is expose that beliefs like these cannot in anyway be apart of Islam and that Muslims in general need to be aware of this instead of blindly embracing people who hold these beliefs.

dude how long has this sunni vs shia war been goin on? lol...its been forever....and muslims r already labelling themselves as sunni muslims, shia muslims, wahabi muslims....and god knows wht else...so why still fight when u alll have YOUR OWN SET of beliefs..just stick to it....its hard to find da real muslims..maybe theres not many after all...

[prncessinnocence]

Well the Shi'a belief is that temporary marriage , which in 'Arabic is called Zawaj Al Mut'a and Persian called "Sighe" is Halal. The Contract of Zawaj Al Mut'a can be contracted anywhere from 1 hour to 99 years, however the purpose is that its a temporal contract which is given a specified limitation of time.

What I want to do is expose that beliefs like these cannot in anyway be apart of Islam and that Muslims in general need to be aware of this instead of blindly embracing people who hold these beliefs.

i may be mistaken but wasnt that allowed during the Prophet's (pbuh) time because of things like war...men would have to go away and whatnot...i know its not permissable for Sunnis but people in Iran are starting to do it again

[vaz8623]

Kaana ka leeya?

Oh oh Yes yes, I sort of ate.. actually oh crap.

I haven't had roti today :neutral:

OK brb... I'm feeling peckish.
You're eating at this time?!!
You going for a jog afterwards or you just going to lie on your fat belly? :p

[Just Like Heaven]

Me too :neutral:
*vaz holds out hand again*lol
:hug:

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

im not sitting here preaching about PURE ISLAM and NON PURE ISLAM.....so if u gonna follow pure islam try sticking to it and follow fromo top to bottom. Stop enforcing ur beliefs onto others when u dont follow it urself.


You just preached to me that what you consider wasting time is a Gunnah , if you feel that this is a waste of time and a gunnah then yOU are obligated to apply this on yourself.

I dont believe that speaking the Truth and saying whats right , on a forum , in a letter or in discourse is a waste of time and thus I am not GOING against my beliefs , I'm not straying from following them in this regards.

However as you claim to believe this is a gunnah then you're NOT following it yourself.

[NYzNiCCa]

You're eating at this time?!!
You going for a jog afterwards or you just going to lie on your fat belly? :p

shes a fake...shes one FAT HIPPO!

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

i may be mistaken but wasnt that allowed during the Prophet's (pbuh) time because of things like war...men would have to go away and whatnot...i know its not permissable for Sunnis but people in Iran are starting to do it again


It was permitted in the beginning of Islam, becasue before then the Pagans had no set marriage laws , so Nabi(saw) allowed Mut'a. However after the Day of Khaibar it was banned completely , and this was when the Shar'iah was concrete to the point that now Muslims had a stable community to work by.

Yes in Iran they practice it because the primary way there is Shi'ism.

[MolviCorleone]

whos that browny in ur sig who looks like me? :neutral:

its not navjot sidhu
thats for sure

:D

[vaz8623]

No vaz , thats not all they do , if it was just believing in the Virtuous character of the Family of Nabi(saw)(Ahl Ul bayt) then there would be nothing wrong with them.

In fact to love the Ahl Ul bayt is something even Sunnis are encouraged to do.

There is more to Shi'asm than "loving the Ahl ul Bayt".

There is also attacking and slandering Bibi Aisha(ra) , the wife of Nabi(saw)
promoting temporary marriages as permissible
Claiming that Certain Human beings are the "Face of Allah", and so on.
Alot dont slander and just believe Ali should have been the first Caliph which isnt such an illogical belief as the prohet did say i leave you mr sunnah and my family(did he not?)
Temporary marriage (muta-if i'm correct?) were permissable in the times of the prophet so i'm afraid i dont get your point

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

dude how long has this sunni vs shia war been goin on? lol...its been forever....and muslims r already labelling themselves as sunni muslims, shia muslims, wahabi muslims....and god knows wht else...so why still fight when u alll have YOUR OWN SET of beliefs..just stick to it....its hard to find da real muslims..maybe theres not many after all...


Well because when Mahdi returns, its important we have the clear guidance to be able to followi Him and be safe from the Dajjal.

[Just Like Heaven]

its not navjot sidhu
thats for sure

:D
its the coolest molvi on rd :hug:

[>MNT< clanz]

Well because when Mahdi returns, its important we have the clear guidance to be able to followi Him and be safe from the Dajjal.
ahhh shurup ur mouth

[vaz8623]

:hug:
Let me check if anyones looking*vaz looks around 360 degrees*
:bhapi:























:cuddle: lol

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

Alot dont slander and just believe Ali should have been the first Caliph which isnt such an illogical belief as the prohet did say i leave you mr sunnah and my family(did he not?)
Temporary marriage (muta-if i'm correct?) were permissable in the times of the prophet so i'm afraid i dont get your point


Muta was forbidden in the time of the Prophet(saw) after the Day of Khaibar. So how can something thats forbidden be acceptable when It was only accepted during the time when the Wahy(revelation) had not even become completed. We go by the Compeleted revelation, not the intermediary things which had not been finalized.

A lot dont slander? Well are you aware that Shi'a have a practice known as TAQIYAH? Taqiyah is where a Shi'a can "hide their real beliefs", when asked and can pretend that they dont believe in its brought up.

But we're talking about Shi'a 'AQIDAH , which means the Structure of their Belief system. This is something which is defined by their Scriptural and Textual sources. Now if you examine the Shi'a textual sourcesFor example Usul Kafi , you will find these beliefs exist there. Thats my point.

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

ahhh shurup ur mouth


Why , does the truth hurt or something?

[vaz8623]

shes a fake...shes one FAT HIPPO!
Does she play in the mud?

[Mash007]

why do people always think its a good thing to disrepect one anothers beliefs?

does any of this make you a better muslim? you think god is proud of you?

grow up. put your energies to positive use.

[prncessinnocence]

Let me check if anyones looking*vaz looks around 360 degrees*
:bhapi:
:cuddle: lol

i saw that :squint: besharaam

[>MNT< clanz]

Why , does the truth hurt or something?
oh crap sorry bro i thought u were a shi'ite woops...bin readin ur posts keep it up bruv

[Felonius Monk]

There have to be more fundamental differences than the marriage thing right? It doesn't seem like thats enough for so much bitterness. Anyone care to enlighten me? I'm ignorant.

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

oh crap sorry bro i thought u were a shi'ite woops...bin readin ur posts keep it up bruv


Thats ok bro , I would never be a Shi'a and I think the Shi'a belief system is dangerous.

[HERCS]

Well because when Mahdi returns, its important we have the clear guidance to be able to followi Him and be safe from the Dajjal.

lol and im sure lotsa political leaders will be claiming they r mahdis :p

[longjohnsilver]

here's your new buddy to tag along with.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/Gallery/mollah.JPG


correct your own Shi'as first before trying to accuse people of being Wahhabis.

:love: ahhh thats sweet

[>MNT< clanz]

There have to be more fundamental differences than the marriage thing right? It doesn't seem like thats enough for so much bitterness. Anyone care to enlighten me? I'm ignorant.
they believe in 12 imams which cintrol stuff like the wind and the sun...this goes against the basics of tawheed which is oneness of allahs power, names, and oneness. so basically if u say someone can control when the sun rises this is a power of allah which u have given to someone else if u do this ur not a MUSLIM so fag off...i read this from a book called iranian revolution by nomani i reccomend to all who are interested in killing shias and choppin off heads

[>MNT< clanz]

Thats ok bro , I would never be a Shi'a and I think the Shi'a belief system is dangerous.
so u a salafi?

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

There have to be more fundamental differences than the marriage thing right? It doesn't seem like thats enough for so much bitterness. Anyone care to enlighten me? I'm ignorant.


yes of course there is , the temporary marriage issue was just a example of how they have a discursion from the Foundations of Islam. In Islam if something has been made forbidden , one must believe in its impermissibility to be considered a Believer.

On top of this the Shi'a have created a mythology about induviduals we refer to as the Ahl Ul bayt , they are the Blessed family of the Prophet(saw). The Shi'a have gone to extremes of ALMOST deifying them. In some of their beliefs they are refered to as the "Face of God", which in Arabic the word for face(Wajh) refers to the essence of Substance of a Being. Thereby claiming that Such a person is a manifestation of God. Islam teaches God is transcendental and does not manifest.

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

so u a salafi?


No , I believe in iteqlad bil mathab. I'm Sunni and I follow Hanafi Mathab.

[vaz8623]

Muta was forbidden in the time of the Prophet(saw) after the Day of Khaibar. So how can something thats forbidden be acceptable when It was only accepted during the time when the Wahy(revelation) had not even become completed. We go by the Compeleted revelation, not the intermediary things which had not been finalized.

A lot dont slander? Well are you aware that Shi'a have a practice known as TAQIYAH? Taqiyah is where a Shi'a can "hide their real beliefs", when asked and can pretend that they dont believe in its brought up.

But we're talking about Shi'a 'AQIDAH , which means the Structure of their Belief system. This is something which is defined by their Scriptural and Textual sources. Now if you examine the Shi'a textual sourcesFor example Usul Kafi , you will find these beliefs exist there. Thats my point.
Isnt that when they can put their hand on the Quran and lie?
I think they consider this action if they believe theres a need to stop a tyrant - in those circumstances they believe Allah will forgive them as they are working for His cause

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

Isnt that when they can put their hand on the Quran and lie?
I think they consider this action if they believe theres a need to stop a tyrant - in those circumstances they believe Allah will forgive them as they are working for His cause


No, thats different , the Shi'a taqiyah is that they can pretend to not believe in such and such when in actuality they do. This is done regardless of whether they are in duress or not.

[>MNT< clanz]

No , I believe in iteqlad bil mathab. I'm Sunni and I follow Hanafi Mathab.
ohhhhh dissapointing :( and here i was gonna hive u my msn add so we can have a nice chat

[vaz8623]

why do people always think its a good thing to disrepect one anothers beliefs?

does any of this make you a better muslim? you think god is proud of you?

grow up. put your energies to positive use.
Good on ya!! :D

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

ohhhhh dissapointing :( and here i was gonna hive u my msn add so we can have a nice chat


well you can debate me on the importance of taqlid :D

[HERCS]

so u a salafi?

whts salafi? another type of muslim? :neutral:

[>MNT< clanz]

well you can debate me on the importance of taqlid :D
ok i think ur an interesting bloke and can a lot from u...pm me ur addy

[vaz8623]

i saw that :squint: besharaam
I was supposed to be discreet :p

[>MNT< clanz]

whts salafi? another type of muslim? :neutral:
this means do u follow the way of the pious predecessors

[HERCS]

this means do u follow the way of the pious predecessors

and how do we exactly know that?

[prncessinnocence]

I was supposed to be discreet :p

u werent u non water getter :hand:

[vaz8623]

they believe in 12 imams which cintrol stuff like the wind and the sun...this goes against the basics of tawheed which is oneness of allahs power, names, and oneness. so basically if u say someone can control when the sun rises this is a power of allah which u have given to someone else if u do this ur not a MUSLIM so fag off...i read this from a book called iranian revolution by nomani i reccomend to all who are interested in killing shias and choppin off heads
You're the type that causes hatred amongst our Ummah

[>MNT< clanz]

and how do we exactly know that?
cos thats why we have books thousands upon thousands of books and how do we know the books are true? cos thats why we calll it faith my young and stupid friend :p hahah no really its cos it makes sense anything that sounds dodgy is crapped upon

[chingchingching]

THats Shi'ism. Now it should be clear why they are as dangerous as Wahhabis.

LOVELY

the hypocrite is disrespecting a sect of his own religion, without knowing anything.

You're not supposed to disrespect ANY religion in islam

Chi chi chi

how sad

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

You're the type that causes hatred amongst our Ummah


so what should be done about those who are perpetuating ghalat?

[>MNT< clanz]

You're the type that causes hatred amongst our Ummah
erm genius i was jokin i dunt no shit about shit thats why i sed i red it froma book do i sound like i no a lot of shit?

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

LOVELY

the hypocrite is disrespecting a sect of his own religion, without knowing anything.

You're not supposed to disrespect ANY religion in islam

Chi chi chi

how sad


Not to shove this in your face , but from what I'm grasping I probably know more about your Shi'a beliefs than you do.

And no this isnt a sect of my own religion. Islam doesnt teach that Jafar Siddiq(ra) is the face of Allah(swt).

Nice try but , pull that guilt trip on someone who hasnt done his research

In Islam you're not supposed to claim something which DEVIATES from Islam is ISLAMIC .....shame on you for LYING to others and say it is.

[vaz8623]

No, thats different , the Shi'a taqiyah is that they can pretend to not believe in such and such when in actuality they do. This is done regardless of whether they are in duress or not.
Oh ok,i get ya
Sunni - hanafi
Thats what my parents say they are but i only class myself as a muslim :D
I dont belong to any sects

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

Oh ok,i get ya
Sunni - hanafi
Thats what my parents say they are but i only class myself as a muslim :D
I dont belong to any sects


Hanafi isnt a firqa(sect), its a mathab , thats just which mathab I follow in respects to matters of fiqh , my 'aqidah(facets of belief) is Ahl us Sunnah wal Jamm'ah

[>MNT< clanz]

AFGHAN_ZMARAI get yo lazy self on to msn

[chingchingching]

Not to shove this in your face , but from what I'm grasping I probably know more about your Shi'a beliefs than you do.

And no this isnt a sect of my own religion. Islam doesnt teach that Jafar Siddiq(ra) is the face of Allah(swt).

Nice try but , pull that guilt trip on someone who hasnt done his research

In Islam you're not supposed to claim something which DEVIATES from Islam is ISLAMIC .....shame on you for LYING to others and say it is.

i'm not lying to anyone

i hate creating sects between islam

i am a muslim :D

Yes i respect the 12 imams

and of course most of all the prophet

you really need to stop jumping to conclusions.

You're ignorant and on top of that you're a hypocrite. You think there aren't sunni pedo's?

OPEN YOUR EYES

[Felonius Monk]

yes of course there is , the temporary marriage issue was just a example of how they have a discursion from the Foundations of Islam. In Islam if something has been made forbidden , one must believe in its impermissibility to be considered a Believer.

On top of this the Shi'a have created a mythology about induviduals we refer to as the Ahl Ul bayt , they are the Blessed family of the Prophet(saw). The Shi'a have gone to extremes of ALMOST deifying them. In some of their beliefs they are refered to as the "Face of God", which in Arabic the word for face(Wajh) refers to the essence of Substance of a Being. Thereby claiming that Such a person is a manifestation of God. Islam teaches God is transcendental and does not manifest.
I see. Is it at all possible to simply treat them as a different religion? Or are the two sects too closely intertwined for one to draw a line like that. I believe the Quran does say other religions are to be respected, as long as you don't personally adopt their practices/beliefs.

For example, i'd imagine the practices of say, Christianity are equally offensive in terms of contradicting the beliefs of Islam. But the Muslim-Christian conflicts seem to be more socio-economic than religious and the two communities seem to manage to ignore/tolerate each other in general. Can you explain a little more as to why the Shi'ite-Sunni thing is so much more explosive.

[HERCS]

cos thats why we have books thousands upon thousands of books and how do we know the books are true? cos thats why we calll it faith my young and stupid friend :p hahah no really its cos it makes sense anything that sounds dodgy is crapped upon

yeah if u have faith in da quran..and follow wht it says...that wud be safer instead of following leaders who u think is pious...theres too many hypocrites around... :p

[mullah omar]

Can you explain a little more as to why the Shi'ite-Sunni thing is so much more explosive.

Shia's curse the three main Caliphs of Islam Abu Bakr (RA), Umar (RA) and Uthman (RA), they curse the wife of the prophet Aisha (RA). isnt that enuff of a reason?

ppl who say we are all equal and god will judge are ignorant, open your eyes and face the facts...

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

i'm not lying to anyone

i hate creating sects between islam

i am a muslim :D

Yes i respect the 12 imams

and of course most of all the prophet

you really need to stop jumping to conclusions.

You're ignorant and on top of that you're a hypocrite. You think there aren't sunni pedo's?
OPEN YOUR EYES


No you are lying to people , you pretend that those who believe that JAFAR SIDDIQ is WAJHULLAH , are following Islam! Respecting the Ahl Ul Bayt is not a issue which is a concern. Doing Ghalat and using their name to justify it is.
I'm not jumping to any conclusions you , have openly admitted to being Shi'a. This is your 'aqidah.

It doesnt matter if you call it a Sect , or if you call it Jugga Wugga Bugga Boo, the beliefs of the Shi'a are GHALAT. Ghalat is Ghalat is Ghalat.

And if you want to test my KNOWLEDGE believe me I will bring it WITH EVIDENCES from YOUR OWN SOURCES.

[chingchingching]

Shia's curse the three main Caliphs of Islam Abu Bakr (RA), Umar (RA) and Uthman (RA), they curse the wife of the prophet Aisha (RA). isnt that enuff of a reason?

ppl who say we are all equal and god will judge are ignorant, open your eyes and face the facts...

but um.. thats what the Quran says

God is the only one to judge.

Who are you?

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

Shia's curse the three main Caliphs of Islam Abu Bakr (RA), Umar (RA) and Uthman (RA), they curse the wife of the prophet Aisha (RA). isnt that enuff of a reason?

ppl who say we are all equal and god will judge are ignorant, open your eyes and face the facts...


Exactly

People like this chingchong are trying to preach Unity BUT disguise the deviations of a ideology which is not in comformity to the revelations of Rasul(saw). This is hiding the Truth and thats worse than anything.

[CrimsonRegret]

why do people always think its a good thing to disrepect one anothers beliefs?

does any of this make you a better muslim? you think god is proud of you?

grow up. put your energies to positive use.
:werd: I like masheo.

When usually someone asks a muslim "who are you?" usually the common answer is either ‘I am a Sunni, or ‘I am a Shia’. Some call themselves Hanafi, or Shafi or Maliki or Humbali.

One may ask such Muslims, "Who was our beloved prophet (pbuh)? Was he a Hanafi or a Shafi, or a Humbali or a Maliki?" No! He was a Muslim, like all the other prophets and messengers of Allah before him.

Surah Fussilat chapter 41 verse 33 says:

"Who is better in speech Than one who calls (men) To Allah, works righteousness, And says, ‘I am of those Who bow in Islam (Muslim)?’ [Al-Qur’an 41:33]
The Qur’an says "Say I am of those who bow in Islam".

In other words, say, "I am a Muslim" and stop this hatred amongst yourselves

[>MNT< clanz]

ghoomsha ams waaaaaaaaitin

[chingchingching]

No you are lying to people , you pretend that those who believe that JAFAR SIDDIQ is WAJHULLAH , are following Islam! Respecting the Ahl Ul Bayt is not a issue which is a concern. Doing Ghalat and using their name to justify it is.
I'm not jumping to any conclusions you , have openly admitted to being Shi'a. This is your 'aqidah.

It doesnt matter if you call it a Sect , or if you call it Jugga Wugga Bugga Boo, the beliefs of the Shi'a are GHALAT. Ghalat is Ghalat is Ghalat.

And if you want to test my KNOWLEDGE believe me I will bring it WITH EVIDENCES from YOUR OWN SOURCES.

Actually, i usually say, my parents are shia and i'm just a muslim.

Anyway, your beliefs to me, seem to be ghalat since you slander and judge every damn thing.

Those aren't the values a muslim should have.

[vaz8623]

so what should be done about those who are perpetuating ghalat?
Leave them to it,we should concentrate on bettering oursleves

[Felonius Monk]

Shia's curse the three main Caliphs of Islam Abu Bakr (RA), Umar (RA) and Uthman (RA), they curse the wife of the prophet Aisha (RA). isnt that enuff of a reason?

ppl who say we are all equal and god will judge are ignorant, open your eyes and face the facts...
My point was that such beliefs which amount to blasphemy in Islam are highly common. Christians don't recognize Muhammad as a prophet at all. Surely thats more offensive? If that can be tolerated, why can't the two sects in this case also tolerate each other.

[HERCS]

No you are lying to people , you pretend that those who believe that JAFAR SIDDIQ is WAJHULLAH , are following Islam! Respecting the Ahl Ul Bayt is not a issue which is a concern. Doing Ghalat and using their name to justify it is.
I'm not jumping to any conclusions you , have openly admitted to being Shi'a. This is your 'aqidah.

It doesnt matter if you call it a Sect , or if you call it Jugga Wugga Bugga Boo, the beliefs of the Shi'a are GHALAT. Ghalat is Ghalat is Ghalat.

And if you want to test my KNOWLEDGE believe me I will bring it WITH EVIDENCES from YOUR OWN SOURCES.

so wht if shes shia? at least she said she prefer to be known as muslim.....u openly said u r a Sunni muslim...theres no such thing as sunni muslim if u check out da quran... :p

[mullah omar]

but um.. thats what the Quran says

God is the only one to judge.

Who are you?

lol okay GOD IS THE ONLY ONE TO JUDGE.
I meant that Shia's, Ismailies. etc who claim they are right and god will judge between them are mistaken...when clearly there is enuff proof that they are wrong.

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

but um.. thats what the Quran says

God is the only one to judge.

Who are you?


actually you're WRONG.

wa man lam yahkum bima anzala Allahu fulaika humu al kafiruna(Surah Mai'dah verse 44)

Thats what it says.

[chingchingching]

Exactly

People like this chingchong are trying to preach Unity BUT disguise the deviations of a ideology which is not in comformity to the revelations of Rasul(saw). This is hiding the Truth and thats worse than anything.

Actually, i'm not trying to preach anything.

i'm just saying things how they are from my point of view. I don't think i'm perfect enough to "preach"

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

lol okay GOD IS THE ONLY ONE TO JUDGE.
I meant that Shia's, Ismailies. etc who claim they are right and god will judge between them are mistaken...when clearly there is enuff proof that they are wrong.


Exactly Allah(swt) has already provided the daleel for us to know that the Shi'a are in ghalat , so how can it be that Allah(swt) will decide later when the ghalat is clear now?

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

Actually, i'm not trying to preach anything.

i'm just saying things how they are from my point of view. I don't think i'm perfect enough to "preach"

I dont care about what you personally feel, I care about what the Qu'ran and Sunnah say, which you clearly are unaware of.

You dont have to be perfect to say the truth , the truth doesnt depend on you or me or any human. There is no requirement that to say the TRUTH one needs to be Masoum.

[chingchingching]

My point was that such beliefs which amount to blasphemy in Islam are highly common. Christians don't recognize Muhammad as a prophet at all. Surely thats more offensive? If that can be tolerated, why can't the two sects in this case also tolerate each other.


but hello!!!

HE can't stand any other person, be it a muslim, christian or jew. Unless he follows the Quran the way our dear zmari does ;)

[vaz8623]

erm genius i was jokin i dunt no shit about shit thats why i sed i red it froma book do i sound like i no a lot of shit?
You dont know shit! :p

[>MNT< clanz]

lol okay GOD IS THE ONLY ONE TO JUDGE.
I meant that Shia's, Ismailies. etc who claim they are right and god will judge between them are mistaken...when clearly there is enuff proof that they are wrong.
i like this dude he openly admitted to a mistake he typed

[mullah omar]

My point was that such beliefs which amount to blasphemy in Islam are highly common. Christians don't recognize Muhammad as a prophet at all. Surely thats more offensive? If that can be tolerated, why can't the two sects in this case also tolerate each other.

The difference is, Christians have nothing to do with Islam and tahts fine.
you cant claim to be a muslim and not like the prophet, you have to follow the rules and even if you dont atleast acknowledge them.

just because you are born shia,sunni, etc. doesnt mean anything, you have to make sure you are doing the right thing.

People claiming to be muslims and hating on the islamic caliphs?? what is that? 1/3 of our religion comes from Aisha (RA), the prophets wife...and if u dont trust her what the hell do you know about your religion?

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

but hello!!!

HE can't stand any other person, be it a muslim, christian or jew. Unless he follows the Quran the way our dear zmari does ;)


Hello? stick to the subject matter.

[vaz8623]

Hanafi isnt a firqa(sect), its a mathab , thats just which mathab I follow in respects to matters of fiqh , my 'aqidah(facets of belief) is Ahl us Sunnah wal Jamm'ah
Why emphasise on it so much?
So would you pray with shaffis etc?

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

The difference is, Christians have nothing to do with Islam and tahts fine.
you cant claim to be a muslim and not like the prophet, you have to follow the rules and even if you dont atleast acknowledge them.
?


Exactly the Christians are not claiming that Their beliefs are Apart of Islam , where as groups like the Shi'a are.

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

Why emphasise on it so much?
So would you pray with shaffis etc?


Because when matters of fiqh arise people will know which Mathab I'm explaining things from so there is no confusion.

Yes I would , the Shafi'i method of prayer is fine. In fact there are no real difference between Hanafi and Shafi'i method anyways, so regardless it wouldnt be a problem.

[chingchingching]

Hello? stick to the subject matter.

This is the part of the subject matter.

I see you making little personal attacks and jumping to conclusions yourself.

Anyway, i know better than to argue with you. Who never thinks hes wrong. Astagfurullah. Even the prophet would admit if he were wrong.

Sooooo, i've said my 2 penny bit. And now i'm outta here.

Please, carry on creating hate between the muslims. Instead of teaching in a civilised manner and saying what you as shia's practise is wrong because <insert so and so evidence> you post pics of a "pedo imam"... Very mature. Beautiful way of proving your point.

Keep it up!

[vaz8623]

i'm not lying to anyone

i hate creating sects between islam

i am a muslim :D

Yes i respect the 12 imams

and of course most of all the prophet

you really need to stop jumping to conclusions.

You're ignorant and on top of that you're a hypocrite. You think there aren't sunni pedo's?

OPEN YOUR EYES
I'm with you on this,this slandering does no one any good,i know plenty of shias(i dont like calling anyone anything but Muslim) and alot are much wiser than the sunnis out there.I,myself am like you and dont class myself as part of any group or sect

[HERCS]

Why emphasise on it so much?
So would you pray with shaffis etc?

dont u know each muslims have their own mosques...lol...i heard theres mosque
for pakis...and mosque for indians... :p

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

This is the part of the subject matter.

I see you making little personal attacks and jumping to conclusions yourself.

Anyway, i know better than to argue with you. Who never thinks hes wrong. Astagfurullah. Even the prophet would admit if he were wrong.

Sooooo, i've said my 2 penny bit. And now i'm outta here.

Please, carry on creating hate between the muslims. Instead of teaching in a civilised manner and saying what you as shia's practise is wrong because <insert so and so evidence> you post pics of a "pedo imam"... Very mature. Beautiful way of proving your point.

Keep it up!

Keep on lying about the Truth and trying to hide and disguise corrupt beliefs.

You're only upset that becasue where as you CLAIM that the Qu'ran says something that it does not even say, That others can demonstrate their points with facts and references which basically expose your deceit. Dnt blame others if you speak fallacy. Blame yourself.

[>MNT< clanz]

This is the part of the subject matter.

I see you making little personal attacks and jumping to conclusions yourself.

Anyway, i know better than to argue with you. Who never thinks hes wrong. Astagfurullah. Even the prophet would admit if he were wrong.

Sooooo, i've said my 2 penny bit. And now i'm outta here.

Please, carry on creating hate between the muslims. Instead of teaching in a civilised manner and saying what you as shia's practise is wrong because <insert so and so evidence> you post pics of a "pedo imam"... Very mature. Beautiful way of proving your point.

Keep it up!
nice work AFGHAN_ZMARAI she agrees wiv u now

[chingchingching]

vaz - some people just fail to realise that theres good and bad in every community, in EVERY religion, and in every race.

[CrimsonRegret]

I'm with you on this,this slandering does no one any good,i know plenty of shias(i dont like calling anyone anything but Muslim) and alot are much wiser than the sunnis out there.I,myself am like you and dont class myself as part of any group or sect
Exactly, dividing muslims into different sects will only create more hatred.

Just call yourself muslim.

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

I'm with you on this,this slandering does no one any good,i know plenty of shias(i dont like calling anyone anything but Muslim) and alot are much wiser than the sunnis out there.I,myself am like you and dont class myself as part of any group or sect


The difference is the practice is accepted by Shi'as

and not accepted by Sunnis.

[Guddia]

i have relatives who r shia, i dont regard em as dangerous...at da end of da day, everyone of us has our own graves....as long as they r nice human being...not some physchos...

well said

[chingchingching]

nice work AFGHAN_ZMARAI she agrees wiv u now


are you stupid, kid?

Get your own opinion.

[Felonius Monk]

The difference is, Christians have nothing to do with Islam and tahts fine.
you cant claim to be a muslim and not like the prophet, you have to follow the rules and even if you dont atleast acknowledge them.

just because you are born shia,sunni, etc. doesnt mean anything, you have to make sure you are doing the right thing.

People claiming to be muslims and hating on the islamic caliphs?? what is that? 1/3 of our religion comes from Aisha (RA), the prophets wife...and if u dont trust her what the hell do you know about your religion?
Christianity comes from the same roots as Islam in the context of being an Abrahamic faith. To an outside observer (which is what I am) the history of the Abrahamic faiths really is a branching (into three broad categories) of communities that embraced certain beliefs while others did not. The Shia-Sunni rift really seems to be a similar case. If they were just called different names instead of having the common tag of 'Muslim' attached to both, we'd really be talking about two seperate (albeit related) religions. Which goes back to my question about tolerance. I guess I'm trying to draw a parallel with something like Methodists and Catholics who manage to coexist in Christianity.

[CrimsonRegret]

This is the part of the subject matter.

I see you making little personal attacks and jumping to conclusions yourself.

Anyway, i know better than to argue with you. Who never thinks hes wrong. Astagfurullah. Even the prophet would admit if he were wrong.

Sooooo, i've said my 2 penny bit. And now i'm outta here.

Please, carry on creating hate between the muslims. Instead of teaching in a civilised manner and saying what you as shia's practise is wrong because <insert so and so evidence> you post pics of a "pedo imam"... Very mature. Beautiful way of proving your point.

Keep it up!
That was horrendous, seriously. :no:

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

Exactly, dividing muslims into different sects will only create more hatred.

Just call yourself muslim.


Islam can never be divided in the true sense. But people will falsely claim false beliefs as Islam.

This is what must be condemned and opposed. To love a Lie is worse than Hating a Lie.

[mullah omar]

vaz - some people just fail to realise that theres good and bad in every community, in EVERY religion, and in every race.

thats true, there are bad sunni ppl, bad shia ppl..etc...thats not the point here
the point is that shia belief is wrong...
thats what the argument here is

[vaz8623]

Because when matters of fiqh arise people will know which Mathab I'm explaining things from so there is no confusion.

Yes I would , the Shafi'i method of prayer is fine. In fact there are no real difference between Hanafi and Shafi'i method anyways, so regardless it wouldnt be a problem.
I think we all know what matthab you are now.My way of praying is from hanafi matthad but i have adapted a couple of things that i have learnt.

[chingchingching]

Keep on lying about the Truth and trying to hide and disguise corrupt beliefs.

You're only upset that becasue where as you CLAIM that the Qu'ran says something that it does not even say, That others can demonstrate their points with facts and references which basically expose your deceit. Dnt blame others if you speak fallacy. Blame yourself.

Oh sorry, my comment seemed to have hurt you a little.

I don't claim anything.

Infact in the thread yesterday, did you see how much evidence was provided. What evidence did you have? Nothing.

Thats okay... as i said continue preaching. And in this manner, you'll have many people who start to believe and take advice from you :)

[>MNT< clanz]

You dont know shit! :p
agrees

[vaz8623]

dont u know each muslims have their own mosques...lol...i heard theres mosque
for pakis...and mosque for indians... :p
Lol,yeah i know...i've prayed in different mosques and alls good to me :D

[chingchingching]

That was horrendous, seriously. :no:

No doubt it was. :neutral:

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

That was horrendous, seriously. :no:


The Imam is a widely known marja of the Shi'a and the point of showing that picture was to demonstrate that Shi'a openly practice this because they believe its halal.

I dont get why ChingChong is so afraid of the truth.

[>MNT< clanz]

are you stupid, kid?

Get your own opinion.
no im not stupid just retarded

[CrimsonRegret]

Islam can never be divided in the true sense. But people will falsely claim false beliefs as Islam.

This is what must be condemned and opposed. To love a Lie is worse than Hating a Lie.
You just keep calling others by 'sunni, shia' muslims, that itself is a divident.

And one more thing, don't quote me kay?

Na mekhauyam kaatet gaap bezanam.

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

No doubt it was. :neutral:


Do you think this Shi'a Imam would allow his picture to be taken unless it was already widely accepted for Him to do such things?

[chingchingching]

Do you think this Shi'a Imam would allow his picture to be taken unless it was already widely accepted for Him to do such things?

Do you think i know of such imam's?

UM NO.

I know enough about shia's (tashiri ones or whatever it's called) to know that, that is WRONG.

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

You just keep calling others by 'sunni, shia' muslims, that itself is a divident.

And one more thing, don't quote me kay?

Na mekhauyam kaatet gaap bezanam.


Being divided on FOR the right reasons is NOT a problem , Islam doesnt get divided because the reason that Distinction is made against the Shi'a is because their beliefs are DEVIATED.

Are you honestly telling me that people who say that Temporary Marriage is HALAL are not DEVIATED from Islam?

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

Do you think i know of such imam's?

UM NO.

I know enough about shia's (tashiri ones or whatever it's called) to know that, that is WRONG.

You dont even know that if you follow Jafariya Mathab(the Shi'a Mathab) that you cant take ahkam from Sunni Ulemah because their Daleel is different and their Usul is different.

So how would you know anything else?

[vaz8623]

vaz - some people just fail to realise that theres good and bad in every community, in EVERY religion, and in every race.
You are so right!I agree with you 100%.
From my point of view its not the religions its the people within them that cause the good and bad,no "real" religion teaches hate!

[chingchingching]

You dont even know that if you follow Jafariya Mathab(the Shi'a Mathab) that you cant take ahkam from Sunni Ulemah because their Daleel is different and their Usul is different.

So how would you know anything else?

As i told you

i am a muslim.

Or do i have to repeat myself 100901940193940329402 for you to get it through your head?

[chingchingching]

You are so right!I agree with you 100%.
From my point of view its not the religions its the people within them that cause the good and bad,no "real" religion teaches hate!

Exactly, it's the people

Exhibit A - Afghan Zmari

:wave:

[CrimsonRegret]

Being divided on FOR the right reasons is NOT a problem , Islam doesnt get divided because the reason that Distinction is made against the Shi'a is because their beliefs are DEVIATED.

Are you honestly telling me that people who say that Temporary Marriage is HALAL are not DEVIATED from Islam?
There are sunnis AND shias who follow the temporary marriage mode. Look it up for yourself.

And since you're so in for right and wrong reasons, why don't you get off this rating website and carry out debates in proper means in the public with muslim scholars.

[vaz8623]

The difference is the practice is accepted by Shi'as

and not accepted by Sunnis.
Don't worry about it
A piece of advice - your knowledge is good mashallah but don't slander people if they know less then you,don't put yourself on a higher palladium

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

As i told you

i am a muslim.

Or do i have to repeat myself 100901940193940329402 for you to get it through your head?


Dont BULL with me , because I know from reliable sources that you're Shi'a.

What is thiis your attempt at TAQIYAH? LOL

Tell me what do you believe on several issues.

a.) What do you believe about the Khulafa Rashideen? Do you believe that Abu Bakr(ra) and Umar(ra) were rightful Khulafa in accord to the request of Nabi(saw)?

b.) Do you believe that the Beloved Wife of Nabi(saw) Bibi Aisha(ra), did anything compromised her fidelity to Nabi(saw)?

c.) Do you believe that temporary marriage is a permissible act EVEN now ?

these are some basic questions a "simple Muslim" like yourself shouldnt feel like they'd have to avoid them.

[chingchingching]

Dont BULL with me , because I know from reliable sources that you're Shi'a.

What is thiis your attempt at TAQIYAH? LOL

Tell me what do you believe on several issues.

a.) What do you believe about the Khulafa Rashideen? Do you believe that Abu Bakr(ra) and Umar(ra) were rightful Khulafa in accord to the request of Nabi(saw)?

b.) Do you believe that the Beloved Wife of Nabi(saw) Bibi Aisha(ra), did anything compromised her fidelity to Nabi(saw)?

c.) Do you believe that temporary marriage is a permissible act EVEN now ?

these are some basic questions a "simple Muslim" like yourself shouldnt feel like they'd have to avoid them.

reliable sources? Over the inernet? :rofl:

please!

I think i know what i say better than you do, you freakin stalker

And as i told you, i do not wish to argue with you asthere is no point. So you can stop right there.

[mullah omar]

Don't worry about it
A piece of advice - your knowledge is good mashallah but don't slander people if they know less then you,don't put yourself on a higher palladium

dude i agree with you.
but when someone says Sunni's shias are all the same and equal, thats BS...becasue as a sunni its very offensive for equating me to a shia, just because i know what their beliefs are.

i am not talking about the person, good and bad exist everywhere, but the beliefs are messed up.

[>MNT< clanz]

Dont BULL with me , because I know from reliable sources that you're Shi'a.

What is thiis your attempt at TAQIYAH? LOL

Tell me what do you believe on several issues.

a.) What do you believe about the Khulafa Rashideen? Do you believe that Abu Bakr(ra) and Umar(ra) were rightful Khulafa in accord to the request of Nabi(saw)?

b.) Do you believe that the Beloved Wife of Nabi(saw) Bibi Aisha(ra), did anything compromised her fidelity to Nabi(saw)?

c.) Do you believe that temporary marriage is a permissible act EVEN now ?

these are some basic questions a "simple Muslim" like yourself shouldnt feel like they'd have to avoid them.
dude she just lie to get her way remember she can do taqiyah so anything u say shell just say what people want to hear so they go on her side and u look like a fool...trust me shi'ites are very dangerous they act like they dont know anything and then they attack with everything as soon as ppl agree with them...u know how shiism started it was by the jews and we know how dangerous they are

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

You are so right!I agree with you 100%.
From my point of view its not the religions its the people within them that cause the good and bad,no "real" religion teaches hate!


aheeem aheem

Rasulullah(saw) said "Seek the nearness of Allah through hate for sinners and meet them with sternness.And seek the Pleasure of Allah through being displeased with them." (Jamia Sagheer)

[alphaPAKI]

what a thread :|

[chingchingching]

dude she just lie to get her way remember she can do taqiyah so anything u say shell just say what people want to hear so they go on her side and u look like a fool...trust me shi'ites are very dangerous they act like they dont know anything and then they attack with everything as soon as ppl agree with them...u know how shiism started it was by the jews and we know how dangerous they are

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Another ignorant one.

But you're excused, you're just a baby.

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

reliable sources? Over the inernet? :rofl:

please!

I think i know what i say better than you do, you freakin stalker

And as i told you, i do not wish to argue with you asthere is no point. So you can stop right there.


No reliable sources from the Shi'a Ulemah. :wavey:

Now answer the questions

[DaSuckaPunch]

im sorry but......it seems to me the guy who made this thread wants you guys to bicker between yourselves.he instigated it,and he seems to have done a runner.... YES there are aspects of shism that i dont agree with,n many other sects too.....but in the current climate we shouldnt be arguing between ourselves,theres more important issues right about now,regarding islam....We're all MUSLIM at the end of the day.

[CrimsonRegret]

what a thread :|
You still haven't changed your sig.

:drdodgy:

[HERCS]

Don't worry about it
A piece of advice - your knowledge is good mashallah but don't slander people if they know less then you,don't put yourself on a higher palladium

good knowledge doesnt mean da right knowledge...he just sound as if he knows lotsa things..talkin bout da diff skools diff whtever...but end of day day he still called himself a sunni muslim...which is not even in da quran...theres ustazz who memorize quran...speaks arabic very very well....preach at da mosque .but then he married 10 women..and fuck thheir kids....when his kids r pregnant..da baby is aborted...lol....its hard to trust those ppl who like to islam is this islam is that...this is haram..thats haram..i am right..u r wrong...they freaked me out :p

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Another ignorant one.

But you're excused, you're just a baby.


Oh right you talk fallacies , but yet others are ignorant. :sarb:

[>MNT< clanz]

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Another ignorant one.

But you're excused, you're just a baby.
ok ok u figured me out i just want a piece of the action :p

[CrimsonRegret]

im sorry but......it seems to me the guy who made this thread wants you guys to bicker between yourselves.he instigated it,and he seems to have done a runner.... YES there are aspects of shism that i dont agree with,n many other sects too.....but in the current climate we shouldnt be arguing betwwen ourselves,theres more important issues right now....We're all MUSLIM at the end of the day.
Thats exactly what i said in different words but no-one seemed to have noticed

:werd:

[chingchingching]

No reliable sources from the Shi'a Ulemah. :wavey:

Now answer the questions


I answered enough of those questions for my islamic exams, i do not wish to answer for you, simply because there is NO POINT

Crimson regret is right. Why don't you go argue with scholars instead of trying to justify nothing to a bunch of hard headed RATE DESI POSTERS? If you think you're so right that is.

You people seriously crack me up.

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

Don't worry about it
A piece of advice - your knowledge is good mashallah but don't slander people if they know less then you,don't put yourself on a higher palladium


The truth needs to be said. You cant deny that. You have to call Ghalat as Ghalat ..there is no way around it.

[vaz8623]

Exactly, it's the people

Exhibit A - Afghan Zmari

:wave:
:rofl: Wheres the beautiful Islam i have been learning about?
More love and less hate :D :wavey:

[mullah omar]

im sorry but......it seems to me the guy who made this thread wants you guys to bicker between yourselves.he instigated it,and he seems to have done a runner.... YES there are aspects of shism that i dont agree with,n many other sects too.....but in the current climate we shouldnt be arguing betwwen ourselves,theres more important issues right now....We're all MUSLIM at the end of the day.

not really, at the end of the day we should fix our mistakes, so if there are ppl who hate the caliphs of Islam, we shoudl correct them, we can say "its ok for you to hate the prophets wife, iam ok with that" we have to hold the prophet's family to the highest degree of respect.
so at the end of the day, its really not ok

[CrimsonRegret]

Teddy bear, teddy bear, turn around,
Teddy bear, teddy bear, touch the ground;
Teddy bear, teddy bear, touch your nose,
Teddy bear, teddy bear, point to your toes;
Teddy bear, teddy bear, turn out the light,
Teddy bear, teddy bear, say goodnight.

:dance:

[HiGHland~Heather]

Why the heck is this still going when that **** shia wats his face has gone?!

[Guddia]

It is important to remember that despite all of these differences in opinion and practice, Shia and us Sunni Muslims share the main articles of Islamic belief and are considered by most to be brethren in faith. In fact, most of us Muslims do not distinguish our self by claiming membership in any particular group, but prefer to call our self simply, "Muslims."

[DaSuckaPunch]

Thats exactly what i said in different words but no-one seemed to have noticed

:werd:

Ahh well,they fell into his trap,props to the shiazara dude...

[CrimsonRegret]

:rofl: Wheres the beautiful Islam i have been learning about?
More love and less hate :D :wavey:
:werd:

I love quoting people :rofl:

[>MNT< clanz]

Teddy bear, teddy bear, turn around,
Teddy bear, teddy bear, touch the ground;
Teddy bear, teddy bear, touch your nose,
Teddy bear, teddy bear, point to your toes;
Teddy bear, teddy bear, turn out the light,
Teddy bear, teddy bear, say goodnight.

:dance:
hahahha :dance3:

[CrimsonRegret]

It is important to remember that despite all of these differences in opinion and practice, Shia and us Sunni Muslims share the main articles of Islamic belief and are considered by most to be brethren in faith. In fact, most of us Muslims do not distinguish our self by claiming membership in any particular group, but prefer to call our self simply, "Muslims."
:werd::werd::werd::werd:

[HERCS]

I answered enough of those questions for my islamic exams, i do not wish to answer for you, simply because there is NO POINT

Crimson regret is right. Why don't you go argue with scholars instead of trying to justify nothing to a bunch of hard headed RATE DESI POSTERS? If you think you're so right that is.

You people seriously crack me up.

he is da next suicide bomber :p stay away

[CrimsonRegret]

Ahh well,they fell into his trap,props to the shiazara dude...
That dude is pathetic.

:werd:

[vaz8623]

dude i agree with you.
but when someone says Sunni's shias are all the same and equal, thats BS...becasue as a sunni its very offensive for equating me to a shia, just because i know what their beliefs are.

i am not talking about the person, good and bad exist everywhere, but the beliefs are messed up.
I just cant stand the hatred out there,we are never going to be able to work together :neutral:

[mullah omar]

That dude is pathetic.

:werd:

why just because you cant argue back?
he makes personal remarks, you are doing the same thing...so i guess you are pathetic too

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

I answered enough of those questions for my islamic exams, i do not wish to answer for you, simply because there is NO POINT

Crimson regret is right. Why don't you go argue with scholars instead of trying to justify nothing to a bunch of hard headed RATE DESI POSTERS? If you think you're so right that is.

You people seriously crack me up.


There is no exam for those questions.

You're avoiding the questions because You know in your Shi'a beliefs that

You say Temporary Marriage which is Halal , even though its forbidden

and anyone knows that To say Something Harram as Halal is KUFR.

You refuse to say what you believe about Bibi Aisha(ra), because you know that the Shi'a accuse Bibi Aisha(ra) of doing ZINA , while married to the Nabi(saw) , Na'authubillah.

You're avoiding the question about the Khulafa Rashideen(rah) because you know that the Shi'a aqidah is to say they were crooks and deceitful munafiqun. You call the Best men after Nabi(saw) munafqun when you know fully well that Nabi(saw) was the one who approved of their leadership.

[chingchingching]

It is important to remember that despite all of these differences in opinion and practice, Shia and us Sunni Muslims share the main articles of Islamic belief and are considered by most to be brethren in faith. In fact, most of us Muslims do not distinguish our self by claiming membership in any particular group, but prefer to call our self simply, "Muslims."

Yes, you're right.

But unfortuntely... saying that is doing it the shia way.. as zmari says


:lol:

[>MNT< clanz]

why just because you cant argue back?
he makes personal remarks, you are doing the same thing...so i guess you are pathetic too
owned

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

why just because you cant argue back?
he makes personal remarks, you are doing the same thing...so i guess you are pathetic too


She meant the Shiahazara guy.

[alphaPAKI]

You still haven't changed your sig.

:drdodgy:
i'll get to it, im just too busy with exams and worldly events as of now

and its not like your doing anything about it miss thang :Poke:

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

Yes, you're right.

But unfortuntely... saying that is doing it the shia way.. as zmari says


:lol:


Quote me where I said precisely that?

or else be proven a liar.

[CrimsonRegret]

why just because you cant argue back?
he makes personal remarks, you are doing the same thing...so i guess you are pathetic too
He should have taken this whole 'zmarai' matter privately and not made a thread, as you can see this thread was to create hatred amongst muslims.

Tell me where is the dude who created this thread?

Jeez.

[DaSuckaPunch]

not really, at the end of the day we should fix our mistakes, so if there are ppl who hate the caliphs of Islam, we shoudl correct them, we can say "its ok for you to hate the prophets wife, iam ok with that" we have to hold the prophet's family to the highest degree of respect.
so at the end of the day, its really not ok

I agree with you,however THIS isnt the stage to do it on,were giving everyone a bad image of islam,as if it islam doesnt have a bad image allready,thanks to the media and a few bad apples within our faith,islam doesnt deserve a bad image.which is why i said yes aspects of shism are wrong,but this isnt the time or place to argue.

[vaz8623]

good knowledge doesnt mean da right knowledge...he just sound as if he knows lotsa things..talkin bout da diff skools diff whtever...but end of day day he still called himself a sunni muslim...which is not even in da quran...theres ustazz who memorize quran...speaks arabic very very well....preach at da mosque .but then he married 10 women..and fuck thheir kids....when his kids r pregnant..da baby is aborted...lol....its hard to trust those ppl who like to islam is this islam is that...this is haram..thats haram..i am right..u r wrong...they freaked me out :p
I know exactly what you are saying,just because a person has a wide area of knowledge doesnt make them better than anyone else.I find most pious looking ones gaze at women more than once if you know what i mean

[CrimsonRegret]

owned
Kiddo, seriously sit back and watch the show.

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

It is important to remember that despite all of these differences in opinion and practice, Shia and us Sunni Muslims share the main articles of Islamic belief and are considered by most to be brethren in faith. In fact, most of us Muslims do not distinguish our self by claiming membership in any particular group, but prefer to call our self simply, "Muslims."


Thats actually completely false.

The Shi'a even ADD to the kalimah.

by saying "Ashahadu Alli Waliyullah" how then can you say these are minor differences of opinion?

Their AQIDAH is different , not their "minor differences of opinion" . If it was an issue of "ifraaqat saghirat" or minor differences. This discussion wouldnt even be happening.

[vaz8623]

:werd:

I love quoting people :rofl:
So do i. :p

[mullah omar]

I agree with you,however THIS isnt the stage to do it on,were giving everyone a bad image of islam,as if it islam doesnt have a bad image allready,thanks to the media and a few bad apples within our faith,islam doesnt deserve a bad image.which is why i said yes aspects of shism are wrong,but this isnt the time or place to argue.

i know this is not the place to argue
but if someone comes and tells me 'Shia=Sunni', what you want me to walk away saying " yeah we are all equal" because thats being a hypocrite.

iam not going to hide anything from non-muslims...this is how islam is...everything should me made clear...we dont go with the nature that everythign is ok...evverythign is accepted...only what has been told to us is accepted.

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

I agree with you,however THIS isnt the stage to do it on,were giving everyone a bad image of islam,as if it islam doesnt have a bad image allready,thanks to the media and a few bad apples within our faith,islam doesnt deserve a bad image.which is why i said yes aspects of shism are wrong,but this isnt the time or place to argue.


So you're saying Truth needs to be compromised for Image?

[HERCS]

It is important to remember that despite all of these differences in opinion and practice, Shia and us Sunni Muslims share the main articles of Islamic belief and are considered by most to be brethren in faith. In fact, most of us Muslims do not distinguish our self by claiming membership in any particular group, but prefer to call our self simply, "Muslims."


:werd:

and da real muslim is a nice human being.....

[chingchingching]

There is no exam for those questions.

You're avoiding the questions because You know in your Shi'a beliefs that

You say Temporary Marriage which is Halal , even though its forbidden

and anyone knows that To say Something Harram as Halal is KUFR.

You refuse to say what you believe about Bibi Aisha(ra), because you know that the Shi'a accuse Bibi Aisha(ra) of doing ZINA , while married to the Nabi(saw) , Na'authubillah.

You're avoiding the question about the Khulafa Rashideen(rah) because you know that the Shi'a aqidah is to say they were crooks and deceitful munafiqun. You call the Best men after Nabi(saw) munafqun when you know fully well that Nabi(saw) was the one who approved of their leadership.

BLA BLA BLA BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I am muslim
Ana muslim
Meh muslim hoon
Je suis muslalman
ma muslim estam
x 324023490239402394032

[CrimsonRegret]

i'll get to it, im just too busy with exams and worldly events as of now

and its not like your doing anything about it miss thang :Poke:
I'm too lazy to make signs, if only I had photoshop.

Just take a look at mine, its blankkkkkkk except for Jibz face :giggle:

[>MNT< clanz]

Kiddo, seriously sit back and watch the show.
yes im lurving it so far i wish there was a fight afterwards....reminds me of highschool :o

[CrimsonRegret]

BLA BLA BLA BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I am muslim
Ana muslim
Meh muslim hoon
Je suis muslalman
ma muslim estam
x 324023490239402394032
:rofl:

anata wa muslim desu ne?

Watashi wa muslim desu. :yes:

[alphaPAKI]

BLA BLA BLA BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I am muslim
Ana muslim
Meh muslim hoon
Je suis muslalman
ma muslim estam
x 324023490239402394032
in any case, your nose looks rather bulbous :thumrigh:

[alphaPAKI]

I'm too lazy to make signs, if only I had photoshop.

Just take a look at mine, its blankkkkkkk except for Jibz face :giggle:
oh, so you think your something now eh? :squint:

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

There are sunnis AND shias who follow the temporary marriage mode. Look it up for yourself.

And since you're so in for right and wrong reasons, why don't you get off this rating website and carry out debates in proper means in the public with muslim scholars.


Sunnis dont think Temporary Marriage is Halal , if they do they arent Sunni because to think something Halal as Harram is kufr. Temporary marriage is apart of the Shi;a belief system because they deem it as Permissible.

As for carrying debates with Ulemah, They're already in their debates and the debates have been set, Now we Must educate those who dont know.

[>MNT< clanz]

in any case, your nose looks rather bulbous :thumrigh:
hhaahahhahaah now this is the real ratedesi

[HERCS]

So you're saying Truth needs to be compromised for Image?

dude u dunno da truth urself..u r just following a skool u think is right....be careful wid wht u preach huh....da one who will go to hell r da preachers who preach wrong info...sooo i think its better for u to shut up

[>MNT< clanz]

Sunnis dont think Temporary Marriage is Halal , if they do they arent Sunni because to think something Halal as Harram is kufr.


As for carrying debates with Ulemah, They're already in their debates and the debates have been set, Now we Must educate those who dont know.
man i wanna debate with u but u dont come on msn vaat are u vaiting for

[vaz8623]

Right you dweebs.i'm out
To bed...ayut kursi on its way to all of you
Hope you all awake tomorrow :wavey:

[chingchingching]

:rofl:

anata wa muslim desu ne?

Watashi wa muslim desu. :yes:

i know thai

guess who taught me

savadekhaaaaaaaaaa

sabyedemykhaaaaaaa

chanrakh nahnah maaaaaakh loiiiiiiiii

fiffle

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

dude u dunno da truth urself..u r just following a skool u think is right....be careful wid wht u preach huh....da one who will go to hell r da preachers who preach wrong info...sooo i think its better for u to shut up


yes the truth is made clear from falsehood as the quran says.

[CrimsonRegret]

oh, so you think your something now eh? :squint:
What do you mean something :slap:

I want a sig too now!

[CrimsonRegret]

i know thai

guess who taught me

savadekhaaaaaaaaaa

sabyedemykhaaaaaaa

chanrakh nahnah maaaaaakh loiiiiiiiii

fiffle
:lol:

what does that mean?

:|

[chingchingching]

in any case, your nose looks rather bulbous :thumrigh:

il est tres grand mais merci ? :p

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

Oh sorry, my comment seemed to have hurt you a little.

I don't claim anything.

Infact in the thread yesterday, did you see how much evidence was provided. What evidence did you have? Nothing.

Thats okay... as i said continue preaching. And in this manner, you'll have many people who start to believe and take advice from you :)


What evidence did you provide? None , You had no daleel with any of it , no ahadith or verses of the Quran with scholarly support. None.

[>MNT< clanz]

il est tres grand mais merci ? :p
me cannot enjoy show if me cannot understand show...en anglias please

[HERCS]

yes the truth is made clear from falsehood as the quran says.

where does it say in da quran that theres sunni muslims?

:wavey:

dont preach da wrong info just coz ur religious teacher or skool say its right... :p

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

Do you think i know of such imam's?

UM NO.

I know enough about shia's (tashiri ones or whatever it's called) to know that, that is WRONG.


What the heck? you dont even know that people who follow the 12 Imams are called Ithna Asharis. SubhanAllah. If you knew enough you;d have at least known that.

[alphaPAKI]

What do you mean something :slap:

I want a sig too now!
well you just want it all, dont you

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

I know enough about shia's (tashiri ones or whatever it's called) to know that, that is WRONG.


What the heck? you dont even know that people who follow the 12 Imams are called Ithna Asharis. SubhanAllah. If you knew enough you;d have at least known that.

[chingchingching]

What evidence did you provide? None , You had no daleel with any of it , no ahadith or verses of the Quran with scholarly support. None.


:rofl:

are you done yet?


Oh my God, Oh my God! :rofl:

Get over it already. I DON'T WANT TO ARGUE WITH YOU because THERE IS NO POINT IN ARGUING WITH A HYPOCRITE.

[alphaPAKI]

im not referring to anyone, im just gonna say randomly

does preaching religion in a condescending and insulting manner really make you any better then someone who you deem ignorant and/or untrue to their religion?


dum dee dum....

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

where does it say in da quran that theres sunni muslims?

:wavey:

dont preach da wrong info just coz ur religious teacher or skool say its right... :p


the word Sunni is the name the aqidah are all in the Qu'ran and Sunnah. Hence the Sunnah.

[>MNT< clanz]

:rofl:

are you done yet?


Oh my God, Oh my God! :rofl:

Get over it already. I DON'T WANT TO ARGUE WITH YOU because THERE IS NO POINT IN ARGUING WITH A HYPOCRITE.
do not abuse the icon rofl when u arent doing it :mad: