abortion?!

[iAMaGirl]

would u ever even consider it?


i know i never would.

[asian_guy_786]

thats a sad thing to do :neutral:

[SlitWristTheory]

It's murder!

[iAMaGirl]

thats a sad thing to do :neutral:
yeh...it is. i could understand a little if it was rape.

[_A-s-H-i_]

thought an views on this topic are sumwhere in forums
i would if i had to under the circumstances

[nexx]

Abortion is wrong. Theres nothing more to it. Its bad enough that someones irresponsible enough to get themselves accidently pregnant, but then they want to deny someone else of the chance to live. Adoptions a much better and more humain option tbh

[asian_guy_786]

yeh...it is. i could understand a little if it was rape.

arghh ppl who rape are monsters .... :neutral:

[Gt_BabyGurl]

nope i wouldnt consider it
im not going to kill a innocent child for a mistake i made

[iAMaGirl]

arghh ppl who rape are monsters .... :neutral:
yeh. but i never think the baby should pay.

[Mr_Executive]

would u ever even consider it?


i know i never would.
did i tel u ur very pretty

[PINKLEATHER]

would u ever even consider it?


i know i never would.

never ever

how can sum1 abort sum lil cute thing growing inside of dem..if only ppl hu get it dun knew how abortion is actually dun! havin an abortion is heartless. omg dat is so horrible whoever has an abortion shud go 2 hell.. i dnt no about abortin a child if uv been raped? but rapes not a everyday thing newayz so i dnt wana think bout dat.. but i think its fuking sick ppl abort children 4 silly reasons .. aint got money...wasnt ready...i wanted a boy.. i have 4 other kids...was a mistake'
da aborted child cud grow up2 b such a beautiful person.. da pain da baby goes through etc is 2 much.

dnt abort :neutral:

[asian_guy_786]

yeh. but i never think the baby should pay.

yeh true say....these kinda topics are :( :( :( :(

[WhatDidYouSay!?]

yeh true say....these kinda topics are :( :( :( :(

You sound like my cousin she says "True say" alot :neutral:

[QqQueen BbBee]

ooo i just saw this is UK forum... o well im posting anyway.

I personally would never do it, as I'm 21 years old, I have a stable job, and I am in love with the man who (would be) the baby's father. . . However I believe it should be legal and a viable option for women who feel they need to take that path.

[Xxmichelle917xx]

would u ever even consider it?


i know i never would.
nah i dont think i would, esp bc im already in college and everything...so i can pretty much handle it i guess...

[asian_guy_786]

You sound like my cousin she says "True say" alot :neutral:

hey sam ....you are sameena from the other day right ?

i just say it when...theres a point to say it....hehe... :p

[WhatDidYouSay!?]

hey sam ....you are sameena from the other day right ?

i just say it when...theres a point to say it....hehe... :p

Yes i'm Sameena.... Hey Omar!

I see :)

[asian_guy_786]

Yes i'm Sameena.... Hey Omar!

I see :)

huhuh

asalamlikum sameena jee

how r u today ?

[WhatDidYouSay!?]

huhuh

asalamlikum sameena jee

how r u today ?

walikumasalam ( i dont even know if i spelt that right :ugh: )

not bad just doing course work you?

sorry for the really really late reply :p

[asian_guy_786]

walikumasalam ( i dont even know if i spelt that right :ugh: )

not bad just doing course work you?

sorry for the really really late reply :p

no worries...courswork is important

btw sorri for my late reply too

[WhatDidYouSay!?]

no worries...courswork is important

btw sorri for my late reply too

Its ok :p

Anyway i best get back too work :no:

Bye bye Omar :)

[sweetest_sin]

I wouldn't if it was my mistake for not being careful...

but say if I got raped, then I probably would.

[The Anti Desi]

ooo i just saw this is UK forum... o well im posting anyway.

I personally would never do it, as I'm 21 years old, I have a stable job, and I am in love with the man who (would be) the baby's father. . . However I believe it should be legal and a viable option for women who feel they need to take that path.
Legal but restricted. It should not be a free for all whatever.

[The Anti Desi]

never ever

how can sum1 abort sum lil cute thing growing inside of dem..if only ppl hu get it dun knew how abortion is actually dun! havin an abortion is heartless. omg dat is so horrible whoever has an abortion shud go 2 hell.. i dnt no about abortin a child if uv been raped? but rapes not a everyday thing newayz so i dnt wana think bout dat.. but i think its fuking sick ppl abort children 4 silly reasons .. aint got money...wasnt ready...i wanted a boy.. i have 4 other kids...was a mistake'
da aborted child cud grow up2 b such a beautiful person.. da pain da baby goes through etc is 2 much.

dnt abort :neutral:
Did I ever tell you how much I love you :love:

[Xo_neha_Xo]

it's such a malicious thing to do.

i would never do that.

[Xo_neha_Xo]

that's a scary thing to do

[coral1979]

i dont agree with it, if ur big enough to have sex then ur big enough to take the responceablilty u make ur bed so lay in it as my mum would say..

altho if a mother and father are told that the child will not servive or has so many health problems it wont live, then u cant blame the parents for considering it

[x_babytee_x]

What if u was raped (god forbid :no: ) would u keep the baby... like little mo... :sarb:

[iAMaGirl]

What if u was raped (god forbid :no: ) would u keep the baby... like little mo... :sarb:
yes b/c i still dont believe the baby should pay for what an idiot did. and if u have so much problems, then give it up 4 adoption after u have had it.

[suhailio]

i Wouldnt!

[iAMaGirl]

i Wouldnt!
gud 4 u. keeping that baby in ur womb.

[suhailio]

gud 4 u. keeping that baby in ur womb.

:rofl:

i mean, i wouldnt let my partner do it:Oops:

[iAMaGirl]

:rofl:

i mean, i wouldnt let my partner do it:Oops:
lol. yeh.

[Kavita]

would u ever even consider it?


i know i never would.

honestly, there is no right and wrong.

[TheMasterBlaster]

thought an views on this topic are sumwhere in forums
i would if i had to under the circumstances

Please tell me under which circumstances will you consider having an abortion.....

[Xo_neha_Xo]

i pass :neutral:


i hope something like that never happens

where im put in that kind of position where i would have to kill a child beforez

he's even in the world

[TheMasterBlaster]

ooo i just saw this is UK forum... o well im posting anyway.

I personally would never do it, as I'm 21 years old, I have a stable job, and I am in love with the man who (would be) the baby's father. . . However I believe it should be legal and a viable option for women who feel they need to take that path.

Say if you were 8 years old...ur dad lost ur job, ur mom couldn't work and they were having a hard time supporting themselves let alone taking care of u.....would it be ok for them to kill you???
If you think about it that is exactly what abortion is.....

[Xo_neha_Xo]

Say if you were 8 years old...ur dad lost ur job, ur mom couldn't work and they were having a hard time supporting themselves let alone taking care of u.....would it be ok for them to kill you???
If you think about it that is exactly what abortion is.....

no it wouldn't

[TheMasterBlaster]

I wouldn't if it was my mistake for not being careful...

but say if I got raped, then I probably would.

even if you got raped...how is it the baby's fault??? I know it isnt your fault either.....but think about it!!!
There are millions of Single mothers and if you cant take care of the baby on your own...there are millions of couples who dont have the blessing of a kid. Adoption is much better than Abortion.....

[Xo_neha_Xo]

even if you got raped...how is it the baby's fault??? I know it isnt your fault either.....but think about it!!!
There are millions of Single mothers and if you cant take care of the baby on your own...there are millions of couples who dont have the blessing of a kid. Adoption is much better than Abortion.....

omg your disgusting you think abortion is okie dont u?

[Xo_neha_Xo]

even if you got raped...how is it the baby's fault??? I know it isnt your fault either.....but think about it!!!
There are millions of Single mothers and if you cant take care of the baby on your own...there are millions of couples who dont have the blessing of a kid. Adoption is much better than Abortion.....

omg your disgusting you think abortion is okie dont u?

[TheMasterBlaster]

no it wouldn't

Thank You....if it is not ok for them to kill u when some1 at 8....what makes it ok for them to kill a child who is in a woman's womb??? Yes it is unborn but it is alive!!!

[TheMasterBlaster]

omg your disgusting you think abortion is okie dont u?


how did u get that idea?

[Xo_neha_Xo]

how did u get that idea?

just seems like ur supporting it right?

[Xo_neha_Xo]

Thank You....if it is not ok for them to kill u when some1 at 8....what makes it ok for them to kill a child who is in a woman's womb??? Yes it is unborn but it is alive!!!

yeah your right...forgot what is said

[Xo_neha_Xo]

im sorri :ashamed:

[TheMasterBlaster]

yeah u had me confused!!!
Abortion is a crime! Murder really!

[Xo_neha_Xo]

yeah u had me confused!!!
Abortion is a crime! Murder really!

yeahh sorry i think it'z wrong and hopefully i will never be in a position like thatu know

[x baby bably x]

adoption > abortion

[jus_me]

if youre "adult" enough to have sex in the first place then you should be adult enough to raise a child

[Xo_neha_Xo]

adoption > abortion

hmmm :sarb:

[x baby bably x]

hmmm :sarb:well i would rather have the baby...put it up for adoption than murder the baby :|

[TheMasterBlaster]

adoption > abortion

Hear Hear!!! :salut: :thumrigh: :applause: :OK: :bowdown: :bigok:

[Xo_neha_Xo]

well i would rather have the baby...put it up for adoption than murder the baby :|

oh i was tryin to figure out wut that meant ur rite

[x_babytee_x]

yes b/c i still dont believe the baby should pay for what an idiot did. and if u have so much problems, then give it up 4 adoption after u have had it.

i dnt know ur right baby didnt do nothing but i still feel weired about keeping the baby by a rapist i mean were asian n lets face it whos gna wna marry u into their family if thats happend to u? yea we shouldnt judge but ppl do it anyway and how would u emotionally cope? :sarb:

[x baby bably x]

Hear Hear!!! :salut: :thumrigh: :applause: :OK: :bowdown: :bigok::mrhappy:

[x baby bably x]

i dnt know ur right baby didnt do nothing but i still feel weired about keeping the baby by a rapist i mean were asian n lets face it whos gna wna marry u into their family if thats happend to u? yea we shouldnt judge but ppl do it anyway and how would u emotionally cope? :sarb:that`s when the adoption agencies comes along :yes:

PLUS...it`s against the Islamic religion to have an abortion...

[x baby bably x]

oh i was tryin to figure out wut that meant ur rite:lol: it`s ok and yeaaa :D

[MFDoom]

I'm a living abortion...









:dance3:

[Xo_neha_Xo]

:lol: it`s ok and yeaaa :D

lol i have my blonde momments ssh

[Xo_neha_Xo]

I'm a living abortion...









:dance3:


hows that possible?

[x baby bably x]

lol i have my blonde momments sshdon`t we all

[MFDoom]

hows that possible?
Ask my doctor.

Oh look, there's Art Malik, Meowww Pussycats.

[Xo_neha_Xo]

don`t we all

lol yeahh

[Xo_neha_Xo]

Ask my doctor.

Oh look, there's Art Malik, Meowww Pussycats.

i dont know ur doctor :sarb:

[x_babytee_x]

that`s when the adoption agencies comes along :yes:

PLUS...it`s against the Islamic religion to have an abortion...

no its permitted in rape cases dnt u know what happend in chechneya n kosovo?

anyways even if u gave ur baby up for adoption how would you deal with not knowing how he/she is are they walking talking etc etc think about it u been carrying a baby in u for 9 months giving it away is not an easy thing :neutral:

[TheMasterBlaster]

no its permitted in rape cases dnt u know what happend in chechneya n kosovo?

anyways even if u gave ur baby up for adoption how would you deal with not knowing how he/she is are they walking talking etc etc think about it u been carrying a baby in u for 9 months giving it away is not an easy thing :neutral:


i dont get it....u dont wanna keep a baby because you were raped.....but u dont want to give it up for adoption because u are gonna miss him???
P.S. Adoption is a major no no in Islam...

[jspot]

I know if any of you had a child when your too young or not ready, you would consider it. Maybe you wouldn't do it but you would definately consider it. Thats why we need abortion to stay legalized, for those who considers it and goes through with it. the option has to stay on the table. your choice to not have an abortion is your choice, but allow other to have the ablity to choose.

[x baby bably x]

no its permitted in rape cases dnt u know what happend in chechneya n kosovo?

anyways even if u gave ur baby up for adoption how would you deal with not knowing how he/she is are they walking talking etc etc think about it u been carrying a baby in u for 9 months giving it away is not an easy thing :neutral: no i don`t...

is there a link on the internet about it?

i didn`t know we could have an abortion if we got raped...i thought we couldn`t whatever the dealio :|

hmmm yea i agree...BUT

i had something to say to that...BUT my teacher said my name...and i`ve forgotton what to write...daym it :anger:

when i remember it...i`ll get back to you

[x baby bably x]

i dont get it....u dont wanna keep a baby because you were raped.....but u dont want to give it up for adoption because u are gonna miss him???
P.S. Adoption is a major no no in Islam...adoption or abortion?

and also...what you just pointed out...is what i was going to say to tee

[jspot]

i dont get it....u dont wanna keep a baby because you were raped.....but u dont want to give it up for adoption because u are gonna miss him???
P.S. Adoption is a major no no in Islam...
is it people giving up their kids a major no no. or is it people adopting kids a major no no?

[TheMasterBlaster]

adoption or abortion?

and also...what you just pointed out...is what i was going to say to tee

my bad i meant abortion.....

[TheMasterBlaster]

is it people giving up their kids a major no no. or is it people adopting kids a major no no?


i meant abortion!

[x baby bably x]

my bad i meant abortion.....yea makes sense now i was like :-s eh?

[TheMasterBlaster]

I know if any of you had a child when your too young or not ready, you would consider it. Maybe you wouldn't do it but you would definately consider it. Thats why we need abortion to stay legalized, for those who considers it and goes through with it. the option has to stay on the table. your choice to not have an abortion is your choice, but allow other to have the ablity to choose.

if you are too young to have a child or not ready to take care of a child then DO NOT HAVE SEX!!!
Abortion should never be legalized....EVER!!!

[jspot]

if you are too young to have a child or not ready to take care of a child then DO NOT HAVE SEX!!!
Abortion should never be legalized....EVER!!!

see that is you placing your morals on others.

I could say you should be christian and worship Jesus. there should be no other religions ever. but thats not going to work.

see, people are different, they go through different things in life. I could say to that 15 year old that parties all the time, has sex and gets pregnant not to have an abortion. but can I say it to another 15 year old that is forced into prostitution and gets pregnant with a child she doesn't want from a guy she has forgotten? morals are a great way for people to lead their own lives, but when you place them on others, blindly in this case, then you are doing a great disservice to humanity. let one find their own way in life, they might make mistakes, but don't interfere. otherwise someone, sometime will interfere with your journey.

[Xo_neha_Xo]

actual serioius thread now :neutral:

[MFDoom]

actual serioius thread now :neutral:
Not anymore...

http://www.cucco.org/CatPictures/Cat%20Nap.jpg

[x_babytee_x]

i dont get it....u dont wanna keep a baby because you were raped.....but u dont want to give it up for adoption because u are gonna miss him???
P.S. Adoption is a major no no in Islam...
What u mean adoption is a no no in islam prophet sws adopted a boy :neutral:
anyways... personally i would get rid of the baby not to b evil or nothing! its just bcoz i know im an emtional person :rolleyes: and anxiety runs thru my blood n i wouldnt b able to rest.... i was just highlighting points to other people

[x_babytee_x]

no i don`t...

is there a link on the internet about it?

i didn`t know we could have an abortion if we got raped...i thought we couldn`t whatever the dealio :|

hmmm yea i agree...BUT

i had something to say to that...BUT my teacher said my name...and i`ve forgotton what to write...daym it :anger:

when i remember it...i`ll get back to you

i duno if they're any links any more i read about it like 3/4 years ago
and yea abortion is permitted if you raped, if the burden is to great and becomes unbareable for you then u shouldn't have to put urself thru that... it sounds evil but can u imagine the poor women who get raped thru wars and that?

[MolviCorleone]

would u ever even consider it?


i know i never would.


after looking at disturbing images im very much against it.

i might understand if the girl did it becuase she is very young or has no money.

but your ave women who does it so she can have a sex life is cursed, no doubt.

[TheMasterBlaster]

see that is you placing your morals on others.

I could say you should be christian and worship Jesus. there should be no other religions ever. but thats not going to work.

see, people are different, they go through different things in life. I could say to that 15 year old that parties all the time, has sex and gets pregnant not to have an abortion. but can I say it to another 15 year old that is forced into prostitution and gets pregnant with a child she doesn't want from a guy she has forgotten? morals are a great way for people to lead their own lives, but when you place them on others, blindly in this case, then you are doing a great disservice to humanity. let one find their own way in life, they might make mistakes, but don't interfere. otherwise someone, sometime will interfere with your journey.

Still does not justify committing a MURDER!!

[TheMasterBlaster]

What u mean adoption is a no no in islam prophet sws adopted a boy :neutral:
anyways... personally i would get rid of the baby not to b evil or nothing! its just bcoz i know im an emtional person :rolleyes: and anxiety runs thru my blood n i wouldnt b able to rest.... i was just highlighting points to other people

i made a mistake....i meant to say Abortion....

[MFDoom]

Still does not justify committing a MURDER!!
What if the baby provoked it...it'd be considered Manslaughter...so it's OK then :dance3:

[jspot]

Still does not justify committing a MURDER!!
this is another moral argument.

[iAMaGirl]

yeh...i guess whats right 4 someone else is not right for another person.

[FaeLLe]

Sorry but what if your girlfriend gets pregnant while in Uni and neither of you want the kid and it was just a matter of protection gone all wrong ?

Do you piss your parents off and marry a white girl, ruin your future, not be able to raise the kid properly because you never had a chance to save up, work two jobs to support your family, forget about everything else except raising the kid ...... or go for an early abortion.

The definition of abortion used by the medical and pro-choice communities is: the end of a pregnancy before viability of the fetus. i.e. the termination of the process of gestation after the time when the zygote attaches itself to the uterine wall (about 14 days after conception), but before the fetus is possibly capable of surviving on its own. (currently 23 to 28 weeks from conception).

So if you perform an abortion before 23 weeks of conception the foetus is not actually alive it is just like any other multiplying tissue in your body eg. new skin growing. I know there any many POV's such as life starts immediately after conception but of course a lot of things can be said without backing.

[Jaffa_Cakes]

Nope.

[Mz_Newyawk]

yea i wud consider it!
cuz i tink if i do an abortion its not being selffish..its jus that i dun wanna b unfair to da baby n not giv him wat he really deserves once hes out in da world!

[c0mpl3xl0g1k]

yes and i have one,not me but my partner
its not fair for my child to come out and to suffer becuase of 2 idiots who don't know how to use a condom

-selflesness is still being selfish

[Princezz1982]

yeh...it is. i could understand a little if it was rape.


You Just Condradicted YourSelf. You Said "i never would" .. Now Your Saying.. Wait.. Maybe If It Was Rape? ...


Double Minded Eh?

:sarb:

[FaeLLe]

Nope.
Nope what.... just because you believe in something its a justified reason to be unfair to the kid ?

[iAMaGirl]

yea i wud consider it!
cuz i tink if i do an abortion its not being selffish..its jus that i dun wanna b unfair to da baby n not giv him wat he really deserves once hes out in da world!
so u should just kill it?? its not our life to take. and maybe, u shouldnt of had sex and their would be no baby. take responsibilities...sorry but i just find that as an easy excuse. flippin, work and support.

[Mz_Newyawk]

so u should just kill it?? its not our life to take. and maybe, u shouldnt of had sex and their would be no baby. take responsibilities...sorry but i just find that as an easy excuse. flippin, work and support.
well im sure i wont do have sex until marriage...cuz i jus dun tink its worth losing ur virginity ova some guy who wont b wit very soon!
so i wud prob tink of abortion afta marriage...n dat is if ONLy INCASEE we hav financial crisis o sumting!

[FaeLLe]

so u should just kill it?? its not our life to take. and maybe, u shouldnt of had sex and their would be no baby. take responsibilities...sorry but i just find that as an easy excuse. flippin, work and support.
In medical terms a foetus does is not considered to be living till 23 weeks after conception.... the only thing resembling human life in it is the DNA; other than it is like any other growth in the body such as a wound that is healing.

[persian_angel]

yeh abortion is wrong .. BUT and its a big but ... you gotta think about the circumstances .. ive always said id never have an abortion but to be honest if i fell pregnant i most probably would have one because of family, age etc... yes its a cowardly thing to do but its easy to say no id never have one.. when your in that situation your not thinking about anything but how things are going to change.. will your family ever accept it or even accept you anymore...

no ones perfect

[zaph69]

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[zaph69]

in islam, i think the belief is that the baby is spiritually alive from about 120 days (16wks) but by about 6 wks or so, organogenesis is pretty much complete and the embryo graduates from being a random ball of cells and signalling factors to becoming a recognisable baby/foetus proper.

so medicine says the baby is alive from 6 wks, islam says 16 wks. At which point is abortion the taking of life for you? it differs with different people depending on their beliefs and viewpoints.

in the medical profession, we are trained to act in the patients' "best interests", taking into account "quality of life"; both baby and mother are patients in this kind of situation and these judgements are really difficult to make. If the pregnancy/birth is going to endanger the mother, the mother has to be saved. The difficulty is judging a misdeveloped baby's potential quality of life, and that as a doctor is an enormously demanding question.

abortion in the interests of lifestyle, family pressure etc are, for me, morally reprehensible - akin to murder, somehow less gratuitous because you can't see your victim, your own child. However, when abortion is done for these reasons, there are obviously HUGE issues (family pressure being a HUGE one - a 16 yr old muslim girl bringing a baby to term outside wedlock is a glaringly obvious reason why someone would feel pressurised into having a termination of pregnancy). I recently took a history from a pregant mother of one who, since the age of 18, has had 4 terminations. and she had very pertinent reasons for each termination, but none of them for me justifed the taking of a life.

that kinda thing hits me hard. anyone who criticises doctors for being overpaid...i challenge to don scrubs and make decisions on this stuff every day...you wouldn't do it for a million quid!!

[FaeLLe]

in islam, i think the belief is that the baby is spiritually alive from about 120 days (16wks) but by about 6 wks or so, organogenesis is pretty much complete and the embryo graduates from being a random ball of cells and signalling factors to becoming a recognisable baby/foetus proper.

so medicine says the baby is alive from 6 wks, islam says 16 wks. At which point is abortion the taking of life for you? it differs with different people depending on their beliefs and viewpoints.

in the medical profession, we are trained to act in the patients' "best interests", taking into account "quality of life"; both baby and mother are patients in this kind of situation and these judgements are really difficult to make. If the pregnancy/birth is going to endanger the mother, the mother has to be saved. The difficulty is judging a misdeveloped baby's potential quality of life, and that as a doctor is an enormously demanding question.

abortion in the interests of lifestyle, family pressure etc are, for me, morally reprehensible - akin to murder, somehow less gratuitous because you can't see your victim, your own child. However, when abortion is done for these reasons, there are obviously HUGE issues (family pressure being a HUGE one - a 16 yr old muslim girl bringing a baby to term outside wedlock is a glaringly obvious reason why someone would feel pressurised into having a termination of pregnancy). I recently took a history from a pregant mother of one who, since the age of 18, has had 4 terminations. and she had very pertinent reasons for each termination, but none of them for me justifed the taking of a life.

that kinda thing hits me hard. anyone who criticises doctors for being overpaid...i challenge to don scrubs and make decisions on this stuff every day...you wouldn't do it for a million quid!!
Yes Mr Zaph69 hats off to you.

Well put........ agreed in totality.

[Rachana]

no i wouldnt...