Desi's who sleep with blacks need to know this

[undercova_luva]

The STD /HIV rate amoung blacks are even 20 times more than white communities in UK even though blacks are a minority community with approx 2% blacks making up the british population.

So that is why when ever I see black with desi girl i feel sick cos the nastee sket would probably be passing on dieases once he'd used and done with her and she wants to get married to a desi guy. :mad:

[gotu]

The STD /HIV rate amoung blacks are even 20 times more than white communities in UK even though blacks are a minority community with approx 2% blacks making up the british population.

So that is why when ever I see black with desi girl i feel sick cos the nastee sket would probably be passing on dieases once he'd used and done with her and she wants to get married to a desi guy. :mad:
I dont live in UK but that is definitely an interesting fact.I have never been a fan of black people,there are a few rare ones i can befriend,but most...godddd,i dont wanna get started.I just think they are still undergoing the evolution from apes to humankind.

[punjabi princess]

i would never sleep with a *****

(im not racist)

[undercova_luva]

i like my asian desi race the best... :D
I would never date a gal or sleep outside the race, espeically wouldn't touch a gal who slept around with *****'z.

urghh they look so ugly even the gals :rolleyes: how some desi's find them attractive is beyond me maybe they need to get a reality check and see the statistics for STD's and Rape cases per racial group maybe then they would think twice. :mad:

[punjabi princess]

thatz not entirely true
there are some hott ******z

[undercova_luva]

thats sick

one thing i can't stand is desi girls who think *****'s can be hot knowing what you know now abt sexually transmitted dieases

MAJOR TURN OFF!! :ugh:

[pankaj9211]

I dont live in UK but that is definitely an interesting fact.I have never been a fan of black people,there are a few rare ones i can befriend,but most...godddd,i dont wanna get started.I just think they are still undergoing the evolution from apes to humankind.


Not nice comments remember your Great x 10E99 parents were blk too...

[UnevenButtocks]

i would never sleep with a *****

(im not racist)


Right.

[CrazyJoker]

ooooookay

[yaar]

i would never sleep with a *****

(im not racist)
and you think a '*****' would sleep wit u? lmao
they want curves not a flat desi

[gotu]

Not nice comments remember your Great x 10E99 parents were blk too...
i know,i didnt say i was flawless.

[undercova_luva]

great either we have undercova blacks on the forum or a bunch of pussy sell outs who lick black ass suckin up like a hoover. pathetic :mad:

[pankaj9211]

great either we have undercova blacks on the forum or a bunch of pussy sell outs who lick black ass suckin up like a hoover. pathetic :mad:


Or maybe we just got bunch of no good red necks kkk memebers

[Whizkid786]

The STD /HIV rate amoung blacks are even 20 times more than white communities in UK even though blacks are a minority community with approx 2% blacks making up the british population.

So that is why when ever I see black with desi girl i feel sick cos the nastee sket would probably be passing on dieases once he'd used and done with her and she wants to get married to a desi guy. :mad:
I think the only "desi" girls you'll see with black guys [at least in my case] are the ugly trinidad/guyanese ones

[pankaj9211]

Hey who you go out with is ur BIZ & promoting gentic diversity is a good thing

[~MoNa~]

great either we have undercova blacks on the forum or a bunch of pussy sell outs who lick black ass suckin up like a hoover. pathetic :mad:




or maybe..we're just a LIL more appreciative and loving and accepting of the black race !!! :rolleyes:

just liek u shuld b.. :neutral:

[~MoNa~]

I think the only "desi" girls you'll see with black guys [at least in my case] are the ugly trinidad/guyanese ones



NO..i think ur extreeemly wrogn on that one!


TRUST ME...either u dotn have very many black ppl were u live..or havent opened ur eyes much...i ono! :sarb:

[Whizkid786]

NO..i think ur extreeemly wrogn on that one!


TRUST ME...either u dotn have very many black ppl were u live..or havent opened ur eyes much...i ono! :sarb:
Um no, you're just being defensive.

[~MoNa~]

Or maybe we just got bunch of no good red necks kkk memebers


WERRDDD dude!

wats wrong these ppl beign sooo racist ish!...reallyy..i thought we were in the yr 2006!

not way back 70 bizillion yrs ago!! :(

[~MoNa~]

Um no, you're just being defensive.


defensive abotu wat??

dat i liek black ppl...and dat i find black men attractive..adn that i would b willign to date a black guy ...as long as he is great and amazign and nice and intresting just leik my requieremnt..in ANY desi guy!

then damnstraight im defendign black ppl! and myself and the ones liek me..that know how to appreciate teh african race..or those of african decent! hear me?!! :D

[Whizkid786]

defensive abotu wat??

dat i liek black ppl...and dat i find black men attractive..adn that i would b willign to date a black guy ...as long as he is great and amazign and nice and intresting just leik my requieremnt..in ANY desi guy!

then damnstraight im defendign black ppl! and myself and the ones liek me..that know how to appreciate teh african race..or those of african decent! hear me?!! :D
Shut up, ****** lover. Say that when you have DA AIDS!

[chicago85thst]

thats sick

one thing i can't stand is desi girls who think *****'s can be hot knowing what you know now abt sexually transmitted dieases

MAJOR TURN OFF!! :ugh:

hot black girls: mariah carey, hally berry, Beyonce, Eve, Faith Evans, and thas all i can think of rite now, point bieng i would glady fuck any one of those

[chicago85thst]

I think the only "desi" girls you'll see with black guys [at least in my case] are the ugly trinidad/guyanese ones


what about the hot trini.guyanese ones?

[~MoNa~]

Shut up, ****** lover. Say that when you have DA AIDS!


and dats y the world has STD and AID tests..for ppl to take....before the fuck!

u deng racist!

and a desi guy could give me AIDS as well!...incase u hadnt realized :rolleyes:

dotn hate so much on a diff race...its unattractive...and i meant that in a nice way! :wavey:

[pankaj9211]

India currently is experiencing an Aids empidemic does that mean us desi guys should all be labled as damaged goods?

[gotu]

I think the only "desi" girls you'll see with black guys [at least in my case] are the ugly trinidad/guyanese ones
Please dont say shit about the indians from Guyana and Trinidad.Yes,many trini and guyanese gals are hardcore party animals and love black guys cuz they are into the whole caribbean look.But trust me on this one,the traditional hindu gals from trinidad and guyana will put our desi girls from india and pakistan to shame when it comes to preserving the indian culture.

[Not_Desi]

The STD /HIV rate amoung blacks are even 20 times more than white communities in UK even though blacks are a minority community with approx 2% blacks making up the british population.

So that is why when ever I see black with desi girl i feel sick cos the nastee sket would probably be passing on dieases once he'd used and done with her and she wants to get married to a desi guy. :mad:

D@mn that was harsh, LOL. Though you have a point with Aids coming from Africa, and most black in the UK are straight from Africa. That kind of reminds me, I heard that AIDS reached Cambodia through UN peace keepers from African countries.

[Whizkid786]

and dats y the world has STD and AID tests..for ppl to take....before the fuck!

u deng racist!

and a desi guy could give me AIDS as well!...incase u hadnt realized :rolleyes:

dotn hate so much on a diff race...its unattractive...and i meant that in a nice way! :wavey:
My best friend is black.

[Whizkid786]

what about the hot trini.guyanese ones?
Oxymoron anyone?

[~MoNa~]

My best friend is black.



oohh rllyy? awesoem... me tooo :D *high fives u*
good for u
i just got hater ish..wen u seemed not too appreciative of black beauty! :p

[SIXPAK GQ]

The STD /HIV rate amoung blacks are even 20 times more than white communities in UK even though blacks are a minority community with approx 2% blacks making up the british population.

So that is why when ever I see black with desi girl i feel sick cos the nastee sket would probably be passing on dieases once he'd used and done with her and she wants to get married to a desi guy. :mad:


india is the #1 leading cause of STD's!

if u do a STD check, it doesnt matter .........

[BigPimpN]

holy flockin shnit

check out the stats

http://www.ashastd.org/learn/learn_statistics.cfm

[undercova_luva]

india is the #1 leading cause of STD's!

if u do a STD check, it doesnt matter .........

Wheres your evidence you just hate India. Pakistan has just as many aids cases but because its more of a social taboo to speak out and seek help the statistics are less reliable.

[undercova_luva]

Desi guys who go with black girls too need to be sidelined too... dum ass dogs desi gals r the most beautiful and sexy in the da whole world why they going for ughhh black gals :sarb: .


Yes we all have friends/ work collegues from different races but it doesnt give you the excuse to get in bed with them and forget your culture your race especially when it comes to STD's. Cos chances are no decent desi girl/guy gonna want to marry ur black used ass.

[princeofkolkata]

i would never sleep with a *****

(im not racist)
then y u calling them ni**a :mad:

[pankaj9211]

I will say it again who you go out with is ur BIZ. Indian women most bueatiful.. I agree but going out with blk chicks heck even marrying one is no big deal. Gentic diversity is a good thing as you remember from HS Bio.

Prince of Kolkata: quick lesson... You call ur homies yo ***** wassup ..its fine BUT ****** is considered demeaning. You still should not go to random blk people and say yo wassup ***** you might get some whooping. But the way she used the term saying that she will not sleep with any ***** sounds demaning toward blk people. She could have just said I have not found any blk man I have clicked with yet so I have not slept with any..

[Street_Scholar]

I would never date a ****** bitch.

Time for a Joke: Why do ******s look like Gorillas?

A: Cos their mama fucked a Gorilla.

[yaar]

I would never date a ****** bitch.

Time for a Joke: Why do ******s look like Gorillas?

A: Cos their mama fucked a Gorilla.
stupid joke wasnt even funny

[HeppyG]

Incredible the amount of hate some of you guys have towards black people! We live in 2006 in post modernity where every1 has choice! I knew an indian girl who went out with a black person in Coventry and they are now married!

[da_flex_charsi]

i would never sleep with a *****

(im not racist)



lol...RESPECT !! :kekeke:

[da_flex_charsi]

i like my asian desi race the best... :D
I would never date a gal or sleep outside the race, espeically wouldn't touch a gal who slept around with *****'z.

urghh they look so ugly even the gals :rolleyes: how some desi's find them attractive is beyond me maybe they need to get a reality check and see the statistics for STD's and Rape cases per racial group maybe then they would think twice. :mad:



too true to say anyfing else!!!

[da_flex_charsi]

then y u calling them ni**a :mad:



cuz dats wat dey r !!!

[pankaj9211]

hmmm what gets to me is that we all forget that we call came from Africa and had black great grand parents.

[Ada]

The STD /HIV rate amoung blacks are even 20 times more than white communities in UK even though blacks are a minority community with approx 2% blacks making up the british population.

So that is why when ever I see black with desi girl i feel sick cos the nastee sket would probably be passing on dieases once he'd used and done with her and she wants to get married to a desi guy. :mad:


Actually its the INDIAN population that has the MOST HIV infected people, after that its African. And I slept with a nigah, and a hot and clean one.

[c0mpl3xl0g1k]

u guys really need ta chill about that, honeslty does it really matter who u fuck as long as they look goood?

i mean really i dont give a fcuk about race as long as the gurl is cute and has a nice face and smile,

curves arent that important,as long as u aint flat

[SIXPAK GQ]

Wheres your evidence you just hate India. Pakistan has just as many aids cases but because its more of a social taboo to speak out and seek help the statistics are less reliable.


u can read it just about anyhere...use the most popular sources...india by far is the #1 leading cause of STD's and AIDS.

[gori_gori]

lol

[undercova_luva]

Actually its the INDIAN population that has the MOST HIV infected people, after that its African. And I slept with a nigah, and a hot and clean one.

wheres ur facts u hoe look at u no wonder only blacks would sleep with u u look like dog.... no desi guy would go near ur aids infested black wide pussy hole ever ewwww ughhhh

get ur self tested and become a nun seriously if u ever wonna get with a desi guy u mutt

[undercova_luva]

u can read it just about anyhere...use the most popular sources...india by far is the #1 leading cause of STD's and AIDS.

loooool pakistan is the leader in incestous relationships does that help clear things up? :p

Back ur shit up if u want arguments

[Gh0Sty2K]

and dats y the world has STD and AID tests..for ppl to take....before the fuck!

u deng racist!

and a desi guy could give me AIDS as well!...incase u hadnt realized :rolleyes:

dotn hate so much on a diff race...its unattractive...and i meant that in a nice way! :wavey:

Sorry folks, but to be honest with you I think the comments above sums everything up nicely. You can catch an STD from anyone if you don’t know they have it, most people don’t even know if they had it in the first place.

You do know AIDS and other STD's are not limited to just the black race, stop being so damn racist. I can’t believe we are in 2006 and having to have such a conversation... it’s pathetic.

Black folks are the same as any other folks with different characteristics, some are more attractive than others, again just like in any race, pack in all the racist crap and move on.. or if you wanna discuss it, have a decent intelligent conversation..

[Gh0Sty2K]

loooool pakistan is the leader in incestous relationships does that help clear things up? :p

Back ur shit up if u want arguments

Just curious, as you requested others to back their shit up, care to back that statement of yours up :D besides, how does an Incestuous relationship result in anything to do with AIDS / STDS and the black community?

[musicchic33]

racist :o

[Gh0Sty2K]

racist :o

Who you reffering too :D

[ispeakadatruth!!]

I've always wanted to go out with a black man but never got the chance...dont see any around this god forsake place... :(

[musicchic33]

Who you reffering too :D
no, don't worry..not you, the threadmaker lol
:bhapi:

[Gh0Sty2K]

no, don't worry..not you, the threadmaker lol
:bhapi:

Lol all good :) :dance3:

[Geezer]

Its pretty obvious that this guy only has "love for his asian desi pride" whatever that means :rolleyes:

[Street_Scholar]

Its pretty obvious that this guy only has "love for his asian desi pride" whatever that means :rolleyes:


:eek:

[Geezer]

:eek:

What mate :lol:

[Street_Scholar]

What mate :lol:

Am just wondering, how come you ain't very patriotic I mean like all Desi pride and shit? :neutral:

[bigkid]

thas sum fuckin racist shyt

dont knock till u rock it

and go here http://forums.ratedesi.com/showthread.php?t=135588

[Geezer]

Am just wondering, how come you ain't very patriotic I mean like all Desi pride and shit? :neutral:

Because there's race hate within Desis that discriminate me and you. Patriotism nowadays is a very fluid concept, considering how multi-cultural the world has become etc.

Plus its quite obvious that this fool is a silly racist, his stab at Pakistan is a good reason also. He's quite obviously only fond of Indians.

[Fake Desi Boy]

I dont live in UK but that is definitely an interesting fact.I have never been a fan of black people,there are a few rare ones i can befriend,but most...godddd,i dont wanna get started.I just think they are still undergoing the evolution from apes to humankind.



okay...u along with anyone else who would claim to not be a fan of a specific ethnicity is ignorant for the fact that no certain group of people or ethnicity can be generalized as far as acting in a specific manner. there are various personallity types that are portaid amonst different individuals of all races. "there are a few rare ones"? wtf is that? learn to make sence :slap: how can u state that u think blacks are still undergoing the evolution from apes to humankind when the claims that u have made only came about as a result of ur own false perception of people. if we all relied on our own negative perceptions to provide us with the "truth", then we would all be even more lost and confused as to what is correct information about the various types of humans we come across in any society. it's obvious that ur mind has not evolved to the contemperary state that it should be at for the time period that we are currertly in. ur stupidity only emphasizes that primal intellect dwells upon us everywhere. please do urself and the rest of humanity a big favor, make sure to scratch ur ass much harder next time u make any attempts to "think" or express urself.

[Fake Desi Boy]

defensive abotu wat??

dat i liek black ppl...and dat i find black men attractive..adn that i would b willign to date a black guy ...as long as he is great and amazign and nice and intresting just leik my requieremnt..in ANY desi guy!

then damnstraight im defendign black ppl! and myself and the ones liek me..that know how to appreciate teh african race..or those of african decent! hear me?!! :D


i'm feelin' that! thank u. tu makay balu bhoshi. sorry my bangla spelling isnt on point like my hindi is lol :kiss:

[Street_Scholar]

i'm feelin' that! thank u. tu makay balu bhoshi. sorry my bangla spelling isnt on point like my hindi is lol :kiss:

:neutral: yo this is a desi forum, go back to ratehispanic.

[Fake Desi Boy]

:neutral: yo this is a desi forum, go back to ratehispanic.


yea i'm aware of the type of forum this is. go back to ratehispanic? lund theey chaar gushti! how can i go back to a place that i didn't even come from? i'm not hispanic. in my profile under ethnicity it says "kallu" maybe if u were somewhat intact with ur punjabi side and not the turkish gori in u that u luv soo much, then u would understand that kallu does NOT mean hispanic. *sigh* u dumb cunt.

[gotu]

okay...u along with anyone else who would claim to not be a fan of a specific ethnicity is ignorant for the fact that no certain group of people or ethnicity can be generalized as far as acting in a specific manner. there are various personallity types that are portaid amonst different individuals of all races. "there are a few rare ones"? wtf is that? learn to make sence :slap: how can u state that u think blacks are still undergoing the evolution from apes to humankind when the claims that u have made only came about as a result of ur own false perception of people. if we all relied on our own negative perceptions to provide us with the "truth", then we would all be even more lost and confused as to what is correct information about the various types of humans we come across in any society. it's obvious that ur mind has not evolved to the contemperary state that it should be at for the time period that we are currertly in. ur stupidity only emphasizes that primal intellect dwells upon us everywhere. please do urself and the rest of humanity a big favor, make sure to scratch ur ass much harder next time u make any attempts to "think" or express urself.
First,let me congratulate you on a well written paragraph.I like the fact you didnt refer to as 'mah *****h,sup homey,dawg'
Now,i understand you're black therefore you are offended by what i say,and i competely understand.I totally agree with Chris Rock when he differentiates between '******s' and 'black people'.Lets face it man,you seem like a decent black gentlemen,but do you really think that there are good number of decent black people out there??I'm sure the majority of you are filled with all this hatred from way back god knows when.Slavery ended 140 yrs ago man,most of you guys really need to wake up and move the fuck on.The ones that have woken up and forgotten the past and accepted the new age culture,congratulations.However,the ones who are still stuck up "if i cant get anything through hard-work,i'm just gonna go out there and snatch it....afterall,my ancestors have gone through so much in the past,i have the god-given right to pay back'' phase.Look up the stats on crimes committed every year.Rape,murder,bank robbery and etc....being one of the many minorites in the USA,you guys still rock the number in these categories in huge numbers every year.That's really saying something.You can call me ignorant all you want,but it wont change the reality and the facts.The reason why you get so offended is not only cuz it's your own race but because you know its true.Desi stores get robbed on daily basis in numerous states,and the racial bigotry we face in this 21st century is beyond my imagination...but the government still wont recognize it as a racial issue.Black man gets called a '******'...congressional hearing in midtown.
You seem pretty decent,try to pass it along in your race and help yourself and your people

[pankaj9211]

Gotu.... YOUR a narrow minded dipshit

[~MoNa~]

okay...u along with anyone else who would claim to not be a fan of a specific ethnicity is ignorant for the fact that no certain group of people or ethnicity can be generalized as far as acting in a specific manner. there are various personallity types that are portaid amonst different individuals of all races. "there are a few rare ones"? wtf is that? learn to make sence :slap: how can u state that u think blacks are still undergoing the evolution from apes to humankind when the claims that u have made only came about as a result of ur own false perception of people. if we all relied on our own negative perceptions to provide us with the "truth", then we would all be even more lost and confused as to what is correct information about the various types of humans we come across in any society. it's obvious that ur mind has not evolved to the contemperary state that it should be at for the time period that we are currertly in. ur stupidity only emphasizes that primal intellect dwells upon us everywhere. please do urself and the rest of humanity a big favor, make sure to scratch ur ass much harder next time u make any attempts to "think" or express urself.




THHAAANNKK GAAWWDDD u make soo much sense! :bhapi:
phheeww..that was long...but intresting read! :)
and beat gotu up well! :o

[~MoNa~]

:neutral: yo this is a desi forum, go back to ratehispanic.


lmao! :neutral: be nice! :slap:

does he EVEN look hispanic to u?!
:neutral:

[~MoNa~]

i'm feelin' that! thank u. tu makay balu bhoshi. sorry my bangla spelling isnt on point like my hindi is lol :kiss:


ahhah awww thanks bebeh :bhapi:
lol naaa..its cool..i understood wat u tried to say :love:

wats up :wavey:

[Fake Desi Boy]

ahhah awww thanks bebeh :bhapi:
lol naaa..its cool..i understood wat u tried to say :love:

wats up :wavey:


hi! :wavey: n/m. i'm @ skool on a short break from a 3 1/2 hour math class lol
i'll ttyl. stay madd cute larki

[undercova_luva]

Because there's race hate within Desis that discriminate me and you. Patriotism nowadays is a very fluid concept, considering how multi-cultural the world has become etc.

Plus its quite obvious that this fool is a silly racist, his stab at Pakistan is a good reason also. He's quite obviously only fond of Indians.

Nah i like pakistani's and Indian's equally cos im from paki/indian relationship but that prick was goin on about India with STD's n shit trying to stir between desi's.

[Geezer]

Nah i like pakistani's and Indian's equally cos im from paki/indian relationship but that prick was goin on about India with STD's n shit trying to stir between desi's.

India has a high HIV rate, that's an undeniable fact.

http://www.avert.org/aidsindia.htm

So what now, dont have sex at all?

[undercova_luva]

India has a high HIV rate, that's an undeniable fact.

http://www.avert.org/aidsindia.htm

So what now, dont have sex at all?

Everyone know's India got high HIV rate but not as much as that fool claims it has... but it is as irrelevant to the thread as pakistan has the most incestous cases than any other country because I made this thread refering to UK /WEST and NOT anywhere else in the WORLD!!!!

So everyone who posts irrelevant stats to the thread can suck on camel lun. :D

[Geezer]

Everyone know's India got high HIV rate but not as much as that fool claims it has... but it is as irrelevant to the thread as pakistan has the most incestous cases than any other country because I made this thread refering to UK /WEST and NOT anywhere else in the WORLD!!!!

So everyone who posts irrelevant stats to the thread can suck on camel lun. :D

You havent posted any relevant stats yourself...or any sources to back up your claims and furthermore, you're just being unnecessarily racist towards black people. If you feel so strongly about it, why dont you do something about it offline.

[undercova_luva]

You havent posted any relevant stats yourself...or any sources to back up your claims and furthermore, you're just being unnecessarily racist towards black people. If you feel so strongly about it, why dont you do something about it offline.

dude i've stated in other thread Im only racist to blacks and whites when they racist to desis and I dont agree with sexually relationships with blacks or white but blacks mainly cos in west they have the highest STD HIV rates and rape convictions than any other ethinica minority.

I will provide you will an article from BBC where a jounerlist states what I said.

[Geezer]

dude i've stated in other thread Im only racist to blacks and whites when they racist to desis and I dont agree with sexually relationships with blacks or white but blacks mainly cos in west they have the highest STD HIV rates and rape convictions than any other ethinica minority.

I will provide you will an article from BBC where a jounerlist states what I said.

Well there's no place for racism on here so either stop making threads like this and posting nonsense like you have been or get banned. Choice is yours.

[undercova_luva]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/3092611.stm

read for urself *****

[undercova_luva]

Well there's no place for racism on here so either stop making threads like this and posting nonsense like you have been or get banned. Choice is yours.

Dude im stating facts and raising awareness since when has desi such as ur self become such pussies we can't discuss stuff like this and you ban ppl.

Are we so weak and political correct that we dont stick up for our own desi race and let others chat about us in their websites.

I think this thread is valid so plz put it back in the relevant forum so that desi's are aware of the dangers of this trend which will harm our community. i promise you that.

[NdN_FIYAH]

wow im glad to see everyone open-minded, a few statistics means that every black person has aids now? damn seriously u needta get off the comp an get out more

[Geezer]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/3092611.stm

read for urself *****

And you're calling me ***** because?


Dude im stating facts and raising awareness since when has desi such as ur self become such pussies we can't discuss stuff like this and you ban ppl.

Are we so weak and political correct that we dont stick up for our own desi race and let others chat about us in their websites.

I think this thread is valid so plz put it back in the relevant forum so that desi's are aware of the dangers of this trend which will harm our community. i promise you that.

Raise awareness somewhere else, you have no idea what you are talking about. Its pointless debating with you.

[undercova_luva]

wow im glad to see everyone open-minded, a few statistics means that every black person has aids now? damn seriously u needta get off the comp an get out more

ur a retard read the article its not to be taken lightly like how ppl have made it.... and all those who think sleeping around is being "open minded" get a clue u dumbass's u aint gonna find a decent desi partner to get married to cos ur history want to be known then ur ass be divorce lmao faster than u can say "im born again virgin though". :)