Ismailis...

[shamera]

I wanted to know how many Ismailis are active users on ratedesi. I, for one, have been an one and off user. This isn't much of a thread but still out of curiosity...lemme know! :)

[ana]

I'm not but my best friend is. I swear the BIGGEST population of them is in Texas; Dallas to be exact. And here you are. :lol:

[shamera]

I'm not but my best friend is. I swear the BIGGEST population of them is in Texas; Dallas to be exact. And here you are. :lol:

lol Yup. I agree, however, there were a lot more in Chicago ((thas where I'm originally from)).

[ana]

lol Yup. I agree, however, there were a lot more in Chicago ((thas where I'm originally from)).

Yea, that's where i'm at.
DId you go to the JK on broadway?

[HeRsHeE317]

thers an ismailism thread in heres oemwhere

search it. they will be found

[shamera]

thers an ismailism thread in heres oemwhere

search it. they will be found

Thanks. :-)

[forgottenmystery]

Ismailis are all rich!

[MrHarmfulOne]

sixpack gq is

[ana]

Ismailis are all rich!

Yea man!!
It has to be a consipiracy. I think they all share one inflated bank account.

[shamera]

Ismailis are all rich!


I beg to differ...lol... :shrug_no:

[Riddemz]

ya ali madat

i am an active ismaili user
and i live in the Montreal :afro:


how many are there in dallas?
i know theres a good 30,000 in toronto

[shamera]

Yea man!!
It has to be a consipiracy. I think they all share one inflated bank account.


Well...let me tell you about it..lol...

eh I think Patels and Chopras are richer.

[shamera]

ya ali madat

i am an active ismaili user
and i live in the Montreal :afro:


how many are there in dallas?
i know theres a good 30,000 in toronto


OHHHHHH MOWLA ALI MADAD...I get so happy when I come across another Ismaili...I dont know about the exact figure but there's a good size down here as well.

[ana]

So did you go to the JK on Broadway??

And who do you know? lol. I know a few people from that JK.

[Riddemz]

OHHHHHH MOWLA ALI MADAD...I get so happy when I come across another Ismaili...I dont know about the exact figure but there's a good size down here as well.
haha
well how big are your kushialis?

[KhanNoonienSingh]

Ismailis are all rich!

or at least just that Aga Khan dude...but superblade would call him rich for another reason. all the white women :rofl:

[shamera]

So did you go to the JK on Broadway??

And who do you know? lol. I know a few people from that JK.

I went to Main Khanne. Half of my family is there.

[shamera]

or at least just that Aga Khan dude...but superblade would call him rich for another reason. all the white women :rofl:


I really think that that's amazingly offensive. He's our spiritual leader and to speak like that about someone of that sort of authority is blasphemous.

[shamera]

haha
well how big are your kushialis?

Big enough to fill the whole khanne. You should come down here sometime.

[Riddemz]

Big enough to fill the whole khanne. You should come down here sometime.
meh
dallas

you guys sound funny
mostly saying dua
hardcore american accent :p

[shamera]

meh
dallas

you guys sound funny
mostly saying dua
hardcore american accent :p

How rude, our hospitality is not suited for your level of acceptance yet. However, I must say that I dont consider myself to be a Texan...especially cuz I am not from the south. But...suit yourself! ::pissed::

[KhanNoonienSingh]

I really think that that's amazingly offensive. He's our spiritual leader and to speak like that about someone of that sort of authority is blasphemous.

that's actually making fun of superblade, not the Aga khan :squint: :|

[shamera]

that's actually making fun of superblade, not the Aga khan :squint: :|

I'm sorry I might not have read it correctly.

[Riddemz]

How rude, our hospitality is not suited for your level of acceptance yet. However, I must say that I dont consider myself to be a Texan...especially cuz I am not from the south. But...suit yourself! ::pissed::
canadian ismailis > american ismailis

muahahahahaha

im just playing with you :p

[shamera]

canadian ismailis > american ismailis

muahahahahaha

im just playing with you :p

Your ego > My ego. :-D

[Riddemz]

btw. i know that there are a bunch if ismailis that are regular on the mainsite

on the forums there are a few, not much though

[shamera]

btw. i know that there are a bunch if ismailis that are regular on the mainsite

on the forums there are a few, not much though

Yeah that's what I said to another user but he was insisting that there are only 10-15 active users...hence this thread.

[SexyTemptress]

are ismaelis different from muslims or are they a sect of islam like jain is to hinduism? how are they different from muslims?

[-ali-]

Their a sect within the Shia's

[T.Dimera]

btw. i know that there are a bunch if ismailis that are regular on the mainsite

on the forums there are a few, not much though

how are the ismaili girls in mtl?

[shamera]

how are the ismaili girls in mtl?

MtL?

[T.Dimera]

MtL?

montreal....

[Riddemz]

how are the ismaili girls in mtl?
theres a few decend ones that attend mcgill
but i say you should go with toronto, WAY bigger selection

[methodman535]

are ismaelis different from muslims or are they a sect of islam like jain is to hinduism? how are they different from muslims?

They are a sect and since all sects have their differences obviously they are different from the rest. :D

[pinkhoney]

I wanted to know how many Ismailis are active users on ratedesi. I, for one, have been an one and off user. This isn't much of a thread but still out of curiosity...lemme know! :)
Ismaili here :wavey: good to see there are a few more in here :lol:

[Urban_Sikh]

I wanted to know how many Ismailis are active users on ratedesi. I, for one, have been an one and off user. This isn't much of a thread but still out of curiosity...lemme know! :)


i lowe ismailis....... i have 14 ismaili life long friends....and i reckon skh guys and ismalis make fukkin good mates in every way....



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[pinkhoney]

Ismailis are all rich!
:roflbow: looks like i missed that money pot...damnit! I am not rich at all :no: speakin of what am i doing on this site I gotta get ready for work:lol:

[pinkhoney]

i lowe ismailis....... i have 14 ismaili life long friends....and i reckon skh guys and ismalis make fukkin good mates in every way....



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they might make good friends but can a sikh guy and an ismaili girl have a life long relationship...no sir :no: *sigh* I miss my ex I am still friends with him but according to him thats as far as it can go now:(

[Geezer]

Here in London we have the biggest ismaili mosque in europe....I think.

[Urban_Sikh]

they might make good friends but can a sikh guy and an ismaili girl have a life long relationship...no sir :no: *sigh* I miss my ex I am still friends with him but according to him thats as far as it can go now:(


Yes they can if the wind is right... u cant say that basing it personally..

I have a sikh friend who married an ismaili kenyan girl 2 years ago and they have two twin sons now...


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[pinkhoney]

Yes they can if the wind is right... u cant say that basing it personally..

I have a sikh friend who married an ismaili kenyan girl 2 years ago and they have two twin sons now...


.
thats true there have been success stories but I guess it also depends on how much love there is cause sometimes it can be a long road to persuade the families involved and maybe my ex didn't want to go against his parents...:no:

[Urban_Sikh]

thats true there have been success stories but I guess it also depends on how much love there is cause sometimes it can be a long road to persuade the families involved and maybe my ex didn't want to go against his parents...:no:


I reckon ur rite....new gen ismailis these days dont have any problems with inter-marriage.... its normally sikhs who are very strict about marrying outside the religion ...especially the sikh families from the royal line...and the ..... but apart from generalising its a possibility if the lowe is there....right!

[pinkhoney]

I reckon ur rite....new gen ismailis these days dont have any problems with inter-marriage.... its normally sikhs who are very strict about marrying outside the religion ...especially the sikh families from the royal line...and the ..... but apart from generalising its a possibility if the lowe is there....right!
:yes:yes its possible if there is love...I kinda dont think I believe in love anymore got hurt too many times...I have kinda become a bit heartless now:(

[Urban_Sikh]

:yes:yes its possible if there is love...I kinda dont think I believe in love anymore got hurt too many times...I have kinda become a bit heartless now:(


naa dont say that....u will get another sikh guy...haha....they are plenty good lookin them going arnd....kiddin... so where do u live

[pinkhoney]

naa dont say that....u will get another sikh guy...haha....they are plenty good lookin them going arnd....kiddin... so where do u live
lol yea very funi...will have to think lots before i revisit that road again...I am in alberta, canada...u live in new zealand I see wow thats a nice place:) i read ur profile lol very funi...so how come u dont have a pic up? :sarb:

[Urban_Sikh]

lol yea very funi...will have to think lots before i revisit that road again...I am in alberta, canada...u live in new zealand I see wow thats a nice place:) i read ur profile lol very funi...so how come u dont have a pic up? :sarb:



haha... canada cool...yeah NZ is greaaaaaaaat...lol

thanks i didnt bother makin a profile yet...just wanted to access the forums...lol

Pic....hmmm....i reckon i am too good looking for this boring site...and thats the truth... Also a few more reasons....but overall i reckon i will be disturbing the peace here with my electrifying looks....lol

[pinkhoney]

haha... canada cool...yeah NZ is greaaaaaaaat...lol

thanks i didnt bother makin a profile yet...just wanted to access the forums...lol

Pic....hmmm....i reckon i am too good looking for this boring site...and thats the truth... Also a few more reasons....but overall i reckon i will be disturbing the peace here with my electrifying looks....lol
:rolleyes: lol oh oh here we go....well mr electric lokks how about u share ur pic with me soemtime then :naughty: allright I better go to work gotta earn that roti:lol:

[Urban_Sikh]

:rolleyes: lol oh oh here we go....well mr electric lokks how about u share ur pic with me soemtime then :naughty: allright I better go to work gotta earn that roti:lol:


well sure...anytime.... lol


yeh u gotta go 2 work and do something creative...init...this site is just a lethal addiction with no good results haha

[pinkhoney]

well another day is here lol I got woken up again at 6 am a cal lfrom teh damn employees...so here again before have to get ready for work lol...and this site really is adictive why did i start this again i dont even know yea must have been bored:lol: how r u doing today?:)

[Urban_Sikh]

lol the ismaili thread is back in action....wazzup

[rizzy_4_u]

i m half ismaili

[pinkhoney]

lol thats right well i guess i could have just messaged u through ur profile but I like to complicate things:lol:

[phlagellum]

Here in London we have the biggest ismaili mosque in europe....I think.

there's also a really big one in Lisbon, Portugal.

[Riddemz]

i m half ismaili
one cannot be half of a religion :neutral:

[phlagellum]

one cannot be half of a religion :neutral:

i think he means that one of his parents is ismaili :)

[Riddemz]

i think he means that one of his parents is ismaili :)
most probably
but he still said he was half ismaili

only one of my parents is ismaili, but im still a full ismaili

[RoMeO6969]

ismaili here from


calgary alberta canada


woot woot

[shamera]

one cannot be half of a religion :neutral:


How can you be half a religion?! ABSURD! You nincompoop!

[pinkhoney]

ismaili here from


calgary alberta canada


woot woot
hey :wavey: i am from Calgary as well...wonder if i have seen u around the city :sarb: but then again its a huge city so never mind:)

[Riddemz]

How can you be half a religion?! ABSURD! You nincompoop!
are you saying that to me or the person i quoted?

[shamera]

are you saying that to me or the person i quoted?

Oops not to you my dear Ismaili friend. I'm speaking to the halfy...gosh I sound liek a biaaaaaaa...lol I'm really not. :-P

[Riddemz]

Oops not to you my dear Ismaili friend. I'm speaking to the halfy...gosh I sound liek a biaaaaaaa...lol I'm really not. :-P
you sound like a goofball :p

[T.Dimera]

theres a few decend ones that attend mcgill
but i say you should go with toronto, WAY bigger selection

i hear west coast has some really attractive ismaili girls...from vancouver to down south in cali

[nabilah18]

OHHHHHH MOWLA ALI MADAD...

coughcoughshirkcoughcough

[shamera]

you sound like a goofball :p

TEEEEEEHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Eid Mubarak. :-)

[shamera]

coughcoughshirkcoughcough

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmk...

[dandiwal_jatt]

is Ismailis like a branch of Islam...sorry for sounding ignorant

[nabilah18]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmk...

read the first chapter of the quran, hun.

[nabilah18]

is Ismailis like a branch of Islam...sorry for sounding ignorant

offshoot out of mainstream Islam. they are just as Muslim as the Nation of Islam

[The Anti Desi]

coughcoughshirkcoughcough
Good lord girl :|

[Riddemz]

i hear west coast has some really attractive ismaili girls...from vancouver to down south in cali
they do :D

[nabilah18]

Good lord girl :|

eid mubarak.

i speaks da troof

[chunky]

eid mubarak.

i speaks da troof

why helooooooooo!

[Riddemz]

offshoot out of mainstream Islam. they are just as Muslim as the Nation of Islam
and more muslim than you'll ever be :)

[The Anti Desi]

eid mubarak.

i speaks da troof
Eid Mubarak to you too.

[The Anti Desi]

offshoot out of mainstream Islam. they are just as Muslim as the Nation of Islam
"Mainstream Islam" ain't exactly Muslim either :|

[shamera]

read the first chapter of the quran, hun.

I can see what you mean but it's not a "shirk" in the Shia tradition.

[brown brotha]

awsome an ismaili thread ! ;)
ya ali madat ma fellow brothers n sisters :grouphug:
this hasto be the coolest thread on rd hehe
speakin of khushali yaaa here in toronto holy crap im students kamadiasaheb n we needa get like 3000 juros for just my khane every timeee!

[nabilah18]

and more muslim than you'll ever be :)

Muslims arent afraid to show others their religion.

[Riddemz]

I can see what you mean but it's not a "shirk" in the Shia tradition.
the thing is

most people dont even understand what "mowla ali madat" means

they think it to be something superficial, eventhough it has nothing to do with the material part of him

[The Anti Desi]

I can see what you mean but it's not a "shirk" in the Shia tradition.
It does not matter what tradition. You don't associate anything to God or religion that God does not mention.

[Riddemz]

Muslims arent afraid to show others their religion.
because they dont get harassed and chased by their fellow muslims when they do

[SIXPAK GQ]

I wanted to know how many Ismailis are active users on ratedesi. I, for one, have been an one and off user. This isn't much of a thread but still out of curiosity...lemme know! :)


u probably thought of me when u started this thread......inspired by sixpak gq.
i;ve been to midcity JK in Euless.

[SIXPAK GQ]

I'm not but my best friend is. I swear the BIGGEST population of them is in Texas; Dallas to be exact. And here you are. :lol:


nope Houston then Dallas.

[nabilah18]

the thing is

most people dont even understand what "mowla ali madat" means

they think it to be something superficial, eventhough it has nothing to do with the material part of him

yeah. the "noor of Allah" is supposed to be in him....if this is true. the Quran would have mentioned it because it is a very important part of the faith. I don't understand how, if this were true, God would not mention it in the Quran because every other central pillars/beliefs are covered in the Quran.

[SIXPAK GQ]

Ismailis are all rich!

like 50% of them

[brown brotha]

the thing is

most people dont even understand what "mowla ali madat" means



lol that bringz bak gud old memories.. junior kindergarten mission class haha
'we wish by sayin ya ali madat .. ya ali madat .. everytime we meet'
'we reply by sayin mowla ali madat ...mowla ali madat .. everytime we meet'
'ya ali madat means may ali help u... may ali help u ... may ali help u'
'mowla ali madat means may ali help u too, may ali help u too...everytime we meet'

ismaili nursery ryhmes :eyebrow: gotta love em' !

[nabilah18]

"Mainstream Islam" ain't exactly Muslim either :|

mainstream islam - those who believe in Tauhid and the Prophet.

[shamera]

awsome an ismaili thread ! ;)
ya ali madat ma fellow brothers n sisters :grouphug:
this hasto be the coolest thread on rd hehe
speakin of khushali yaaa here in toronto holy crap im students kamadiasaheb n we needa get like 3000 juros for just my khane every timeee!

Ahhh Good LUCK! My sister used to be Kamadiani maa over here. :-)

[SIXPAK GQ]

Yeah that's what I said to another user but he was insisting that there are only 10-15 active users...hence this thread.


that user was me

[shamera]

u probably thought of me when u started this thread......inspired by sixpak gq.
i;ve been to midcity JK in Euless.

AHHH lol YAH YAAR. I'm from there! :-O

[The Anti Desi]

mainstream islam - those who believe in Tauhid and the Prophet.
Whats the tauhid????

And how do you believe in the Prophet???

[shamera]

lol that bringz bak gud old memories.. junior kindergarten mission class haha
'we wish by sayin ya ali madat .. ya ali madat .. everytime we meet'
'we reply by sayin mowla ali madat ...mowla ali madat .. everytime we meet'
'ya ali madat means may ali help u... may ali help u ... may ali help u'
'mowla ali madat means may ali help u too, may ali help u too...everytime we meet'

ismaili nursery ryhmes :eyebrow: gotta love em' !

mannn thas not cool, we never learned them in chicago...:-( ive been deprived of my ismaili-ness.

[brown brotha]

Ahhh Good LUCK! My sister used to be Kamadiani maa over here. :-)

thats awsomeee yaah such a big responsability lol so do u go to mid city or carleton khane ? lol i just noe one gurl that goes there ...narmeen... n she fits the 'ismailis that r rich' profile haha :D

[shamera]

thats awsomeee yaah such a big responsability lol so do u go to mid city or carleton khane ? lol i just noe one gurl that goes there ...narmeen... n she fits the 'ismailis that r rich' profile haha :D


OMG Narmeen from MC khanne?! As in the REALLY rich girl who everyone envies for her clothes nd all?! I SO KNOW HER...((if it's the same one!))

[nabilah18]

the thing is

most people dont even understand what "mowla ali madat" means

they think it to be something superficial, eventhough it has nothing to do with the material part of him



madad/madat means help/assistence.
the first chapter in the Quran makes it clear that God is the one who gives madat.
the urdu translation of the quran:
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a294/ekdoteen/ss.jpg

[SIXPAK GQ]

i hear west coast has some really attractive ismaili girls...from vancouver to down south in cali


lot of ismailis look attractive because first all of all...we see them in JK...they look their best....dress good clothes..makeup etc.....on top of this..lot of them are rich....

[brown brotha]

OMG Narmeen from MC khanne?! As in the REALLY rich girl who everyone envies for her clothes nd all?! I SO KNOW HER...((if it's the same one!))

haha yeaaa that sounds like the one, she actually just came here to tdot for her sweet 16th over the breakkk.. her dad i think got her a mercedes jeep for her bday mannn lol im gonna rob that car from her ! :p :p :p :p :p

[nabilah18]

Whats the tauhid????

And how do you believe in the Prophet???

you believe in the oneness of Allah (no associates) and the last prophet is Muhammad, saw.

[SIXPAK GQ]

AHHH lol YAH YAAR. I'm from there! :-O


oh ok..i only went there like twice...do u know any naved surani?

[shamera]

lot of ismailis look attractive because first all of all...we see them in JK...they look their best....dress good clothes..makeup etc.....on top of this..lot of them are rich....


EHHH I BEG TO DIFFER! lol...I look crappy any day at any given time. & I'm not rich. :-(

[Riddemz]

madad/madat means help/assistence.
the first chapter in the Quran makes it clear that God is the one who gives madat.
the urdu translation of the quran:
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a294/ekdoteen/ss.jpg
by saying ya ali madat, we are asking for allahs help, even though we are asking it through that way


its not that were asking the actual person of ali
but thats the way we say it

[The Anti Desi]

you believe in the oneness of Allah (no associates) and the last prophet is Muhammad, saw.
God is one. Only God we worship, and only Gods help we seek.

And Muhammed pbuh is the messenger of God's words.

[shamera]

haha yeaaa that sounds like the one, she actually just came here to tdot for her sweet 16th over the breakkk.. her dad i think got her a mercedes jeep for her bday mannn lol im gonna rob that car from her ! :p :p :p :p :p

THAS SO AWESOME. It's such a small world man. I'm Humera!

[nabilah18]

by saying ya ali madat, we are asking for allahs help, even though we are asking it through that way


its not that were asking the actual person of ali
but thats the way we say it

and that makes perfect sense.. what the christians do to hazrat ISA. you have done to Hazrat Ali .

[Riddemz]

EHHH I BEG TO DIFFER! lol...I look crappy any day at any given time. & I'm not rich. :-(
you look cute

but you'd probably look terrible once you say dua.... english accent... ewww, its even worse than the french accent

[brown brotha]

lot of ismailis look attractive because first all of all...we see them in JK...they look their best....dress good clothes..makeup etc.....on top of this..lot of them are rich....

tru say.. ;) ;) u can't help lookin gud in khane lol
anand i miss the mtl chicks mannn and im startin to forget french ! :wavey:
they renovatin our khane finally haha i kidna made a hole in the wall (by accident of course) lol kinda bad coz im kamadiasaheb :d'oh: :doh: lol but thats not entirely why they r renovating haha!

sooo heyy did u guys here thers gonna be an ISMAILI EMBASSY in OTTAWA :D

[shamera]

you look cute

but you'd probably look terrible once you say dua.... english accent... ewww, its even worse than the french accent
SHUT UP NAAA lol. Meanie.

[Riddemz]

and that makes perfect sense.. what the christians do to hazrat ISA. you have done to Hazrat Ali .
no, not really

[SIXPAK GQ]

EHHH I BEG TO DIFFER! lol...I look crappy any day at any given time. & I'm not rich. :-(


i am talking about the people in their 30's+ rich ismailis mainly......they own lot of businesses........the kids are spoiled.....u look good.....

[Riddemz]

tru say.. ;) ;) u can't help lookin gud in khane lol
anand i miss the mtl chicks mannn and im startin to forget french ! :wavey:
they renovatin our khane finally haha i kidna made a hole in the wall (by accident of course) lol kinda bad coz im kamadiasaheb :d'oh: :doh: lol but thats not entirely why they r renovating haha!

sooo heyy did u guys here thers gonna be an ISMAILI EMBASSY in OTTAWA :D

our khane is so nice now
we even have an elevator

but i miss how it was before
nice n ghetto :afro:


btw. the mtl chicks are boring
you have so much more choice in TO

[brown brotha]

THAS SO AWESOME. It's such a small world man. I'm Humera!

lol it izzz nice to meet u humera :wavey: :D

(so who'z shamera ?!) :Oops:

p.s - :Pray: wow thers an emoticon sayin dua thats gotta be the coolest thing ive seen today .. which just goes to show how cool i am lol :rolleyes:

[SIXPAK GQ]

ismaili embassy for what?

represesting ismailis in the passport regardless of what country ur from?

[SIXPAK GQ]

anyone go to night school here or had attended before?

[shamera]

lol it izzz nice to meet u humera :wavey: :D

(so who'z shamera ?!) :Oops:

p.s - :Pray: wow thers an emoticon sayin dua thats gotta be the coolest thing ive seen today .. which just goes to show how cool i am lol :rolleyes:

LMAO how cute! Shamera...my ex: Shahyan me: Humera...Shahyan+Humera= Shamera....it's gay I know but at the time it was cute...

[shamera]

anyone go to night school here or had attended before?

You mean Mission Class/((now called)) "REC"?...I teach there.

[shamera]

our khane is so nice now
we even have an elevator

but i miss how it was before
nice n ghetto :afro:


btw. the mtl chicks are boring
you have so much more choice in TO

gahh we have such a ghetto khanne...one floor nd just pooey-ness.

[brown brotha]

you look cute

but you'd probably look terrible once you say dua.... english accent... ewww, its even worse than the french accent

lol speakin of accents!
at camp al-ummah there waz this one guy adam from halifax haha he had the funniest english accent n he recited giriawazariji tasbih and everyone cracked up

sounded sumthin lyk..

'taasbee kahdoh geeriya waazarah jee ya aali ' :roflbow:

[brown brotha]

You mean Mission Class/((now called)) "REC"?...I teach there.

mann we have a continuation after mission class here in toronto.. :neutral:
its called al-azhar lol not bad more open discussion type than in class on the board style. lol last year in it then off to uni ! but thats awsome i wanna teach in mission class once im done al azhar ! lol we're havin a camp for al-azhar lol ski trip plus a weekend out im not sure wher i think blue moutain ahhh and i think narmeen is coming too!!! lol :D :D :D :p

[The Anti Desi]

and that makes perfect sense.. what the christians do to hazrat ISA. you have done to Hazrat Ali .
I would have to agree. Saying "Oh Muhammed" is wrong when asking for Gods help, or "Oh Jesus" or "Holy Moses". This is applies to God's chosen messengers. If we are not allowed to use their names, how are we allowed to use someone's name who is never mention by God???

[shamera]

lol speakin of accents!
at camp al-ummah there waz this one guy adam from halifax haha he had the funniest english accent n he recited giriawazariji tasbih and everyone cracked up

sounded sumthin lyk..

'taasbee kahdoh geeriya waazarah jee ya aali ' :roflbow:

AWW THAS SO MEAN! lol

[Riddemz]

lol speakin of accents!
at camp al-ummah there waz this one guy adam from halifax haha he had the funniest english accent n he recited giriawazariji tasbih and everyone cracked up

sounded sumthin lyk..

'taasbee kahdoh geeriya waazarah jee ya aali ' :roflbow:
oh man
2 years ago when i went this british guy was readin a farman, i was kamadiasahib (mad sp?)

at practice he had been reading and in the farman it said "you are useless"
he said this with a brit accent

so when khane time came along and he read it

just us 2 started cracking up, we were trying to hold it in, but it was so hard

we got bitched at afterwards
lol

[shamera]

mann we have a continuation after mission class here in toronto.. :neutral:
its called al-azhar lol not bad more open discussion type than in class on the board style. lol last year in it then off to uni ! but thats awsome i wanna teach in mission class once im done al azhar ! lol we're havin a camp for al-azhar lol ski trip plus a weekend out im not sure wher i think blue moutain ahhh and i think narmeen is coming too!!! lol :D :D :D :p

That would be so much fun. If onli I could join. :-(

[brown brotha]

oh man
2 years ago when i went this british guy was readin a farman, i was kamadiasahib (mad sp?)

at practice he had been reading and in the farman it said "you are useless"
he said this with a brit accent

so when khane time came along and he read it

just us 2 started cracking up, we were trying to hold it in, but it was so hard

we got bitched at afterwards
lol

LOL :roflbow: :rofl:
yeaa i think al-ummah was the first time i actually got exposed to real english accents because of this one guy rahim from england ! he was a real debater and had a beer belly haha gud tyms we used to call him bapoo :D :D not to forget we put shaving cream on our counsellors hand while he was sleeping and tickled his face ... :p :p everyone knows what happened from there hehe

[brown brotha]

That would be so much fun. If onli I could join. :-(

lol heyy since u teach maybe u can start one there i mean like for the kids in high school n stuff get university students to volunteer time and become counsellors lol thats what they do here! lol if u need any help or advice i can pass u my counsellors number hez awsome to talk to bout things :D :D

[nabilah18]

I would have to agree. Saying "Oh Muhammed" is wrong when asking for Gods help, or "Oh Jesus" or "Holy Moses". This is applies to God's chosen messengers. If we are not allowed to use their names, how are we allowed to use someone's name who is never mention by God???

exactly.

[SIXPAK GQ]

You mean Mission Class/((now called)) "REC"?...I teach there.


what class?

i had fun being a student there

[nabilah18]

what's the use of mission class..when you can't answer a simple question.

[SIXPAK GQ]

what's the use of mission class..when you can't answer a simple question.


who are u refering this too...


this topic is not a religion discussion

the OP wanted to find out how many ismailies are on this forum.......

[nabilah18]

who are u refering this too...


this topic is not a religion discussion

the OP wanted to find out how many ismailies are on this forum.......

is it because you can't discuss your religion without using taqiyah for self preservation.

[nmguy20]

I wanted to know how many Ismailis are active users on ratedesi. I, for one, have been an one and off user. This isn't much of a thread but still out of curiosity...lemme know! :)
:love:

[shamera]

lol heyy since u teach maybe u can start one there i mean like for the kids in high school n stuff get university students to volunteer time and become counsellors lol thats what they do here! lol if u need any help or advice i can pass u my counsellors number hez awsome to talk to bout things :D :D


awesome. :-) i need to quit making the ":-)"s...

[shamera]

what class?

i had fun being a student there

3rd & 8th grade...

[SIXPAK GQ]

is it because you can't discuss your religion without using taqiyah for self preservation.


i don't need to discuss my religion.

you are not a ismaili therefore you don't have much knowledge of our religion.

furthermore, i am happy practicing ismailism....

[SIXPAK GQ]

3rd & 8th grade...


i bet the students have crushes on u......

[shamera]

:love:

MY JAANUUUUUUUUUUUU :kiss:

[Riddemz]

is it because you can't discuss your religion without using taqiyah for self preservation.
no
its because its impossible to discuss religion with people not willing to know more and people who are not willing to understand

[shamera]

i bet the students have crushes on u......

Oh you'd be surprised at how quickly these kids' hormones run...

[nabilah18]

i don't need to discuss my religion.

you are not a ismaili therefore you don't have much knowledge of our religion.

furthermore, i am happy practicing ismailism....


i have plenty of knowledge about ismailism.

nice way of changing the subject. you can't discuss the inner aspects of your religion because it is against your religion to do so.. too bad i already know the little secrets... i just find all of your guys responses amusing.

[shamera]

no
its because its impossible to discuss religion with people not willing to know more and people who are not willing to understand

Well said.

[brown brotha]

is it because you can't discuss your religion without using taqiyah for self preservation.

a taqiyah ? sorry not to be rude but doesn't tht mean a pillow or sumthin? :p
lol again not tryna be ignorant .. anyways ladies n gents ;)
:wavey: its time to say good bye lol 1:20 AM here so i better get back to my nice cosey taqiyah and say my tasbih :rolleyes: coz im such a dayo chokro ;)
byeee gud nite swt dreamz everyone (no matter wat timezone ur in)

lol n anand u still poppin those bhangra moves? :dance3:
i gott a few of my owwnnn i think we need u to come down hea for sum variety shows haha :D anywayz add me brown_brotha_@hotmail.com u too humera! :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

[SIXPAK GQ]

i have plenty of knowledge about ismailism.

nice way of changing the subject. you can't discuss the inner aspects of your religion because it is against your religion to do so.. too bad i already know the little secrets... i just find all of your guys responses amusing.


this topic is about finding out how many ismailies are on this thread.....not some religious discussion.

hey good for and your little secrets....quit talking to me now....

[shamera]

a taqiyah ? sorry not to be rude but doesn't tht mean a pillow or sumthin? :p
lol again not tryna be ignorant .. anyways ladies n gents ;)
:wavey: its time to say good bye lol 1:20 AM here so i better get back to my nice cosey taqiyah and say my tasbih :rolleyes: coz im such a dayo chokro ;)
byeee gud nite swt dreamz everyone (no matter wat timezone ur in)

lol n anand u still poppin those bhangra moves? :dance3:
i gott a few of my owwnnn i think we need u to come down hea for sum variety shows haha :D anywayz add me brown_brotha_@hotmail.com u too humera! :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

GOOD NITE! :-)

[-ali-]

i have plenty of knowledge about ismailism.

nice way of changing the subject. you can't discuss the inner aspects of your religion because it is against your religion to do so.. too bad i already know the little secrets... i just find all of your guys responses amusing.

dude who cares what their lil secrets are, only ALLAH (SWT) has the authority to judge who's a muslim and who's not, so rather than wasting your time trying to put down fellow muslims, do something more worthwhile

[nabilah18]

a taqiyah ? sorry not to be rude but doesn't tht mean a pillow or sumthin? :p
lol again not tryna be ignorant .. anyways ladies n gents ;)
:wavey: its time to say good bye lol 1:20 AM here so i better get back to my nice cosey taqiyah and say my tasbih :rolleyes: coz im such a dayo chokro ;)
byeee gud nite swt dreamz everyone (no matter wat timezone ur in)

lol n anand u still poppin those bhangra moves? :dance3:
i gott a few of my owwnnn i think we need u to come down hea for sum variety shows haha :D anywayz add me brown_brotha_@hotmail.com u too humera! :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey:



Taqiya, or not showing their faith openly by means of pretense, dissimulation, or concealment

[shamera]

this topic is about finding out how many ismailies are on this thread.....not some religious discussion.

hey good for and your little secrets....quit talking to me now....

hahaha...yeah it's funny how some ppl can manage to go on and on asking ?s which they think they know the answer of...thas great. you must be really intelligent...however, it surprises me that you still can't read teh topic of this thread....ehh it depresses me more than it surprises me.

[nabilah18]

dude who cares what their lil secrets are, only ALLAH (SWT) has the authority to judge who's a muslim and who's not, so rather than wasting your time trying to put down fellow muslims, do something more worthwhile

first off I know youre ismaili
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secondly the Prophet never let wrongdoing occur and turned a blind eye.
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read about Hazrat Ali and the Kharijites

[nabilah18]

why dont you guys tell all us "zaheri" muslims.. what a "bol" is and how you meditate using with a specific "bol" by repeating the word over and over again.

[-ali-]

i aint no bloody ismaili ya dork

[brown brotha]

why dont you guys tell all us "zaheri" muslims.. what a "bol" is and how you meditate using with a specific "bol" by repeating the word over and over again.

sorry guys had to stay back for this.. what do u mean by the prophet turning a blind eye...yea and the bol is a secret because ...? :neutral: :neutral:

[nabilah18]

sorry guys had to stay back for this..

yea and the bol is a secret because ...? :neutral: :neutral:

because it doesnt have any roots in Islam whatsoever.

[-ali-]

i wouldnt be surprised if this nabilah retard turns into one of them suicide female bombers

[brown brotha]

because it doesnt have any roots in Islam whatsoever.

does your beleif comprise of your roots ?

[shamera]

because it doesnt have any roots in Islam whatsoever.

I know that by me saying this, it won't really change your opinion or bring light into your perspective but in order to defend my religion...I hope you realize that Sunni's are extremely orthodox, they go by the literal meaning of the Quran. Shia's ((Ismailis in particular)) aren't that literal. We take the symbolic meaning behind what is written and modify it so that it relates in our everyday life. For you guys, the meaning will be the same 50 or 100 years from now. For us, as time goes on, our ways and means of practicing Islam will be different but the true essence behind those different actions will remain the same.

[nabilah18]

i wouldnt be surprised if this nabilah retard turns into one of them suicide female bombers

oh funny...

a defense of islamic doctrines equals terrorism.

yeah youre definately a liar.

[brown brotha]

I know that by me saying this, it won't really change your opinion or bring light into your perspective but in order to defend my religion...I hope you realize that Sunni's are extremely orthodox, they go by the literal meaning of the Quran. Shia's ((Ismailis in particular)) aren't that literal. We take the symbolic meaning behind what is written and modify it so that it relates in our everyday life. For you guys, the meaning will be the same 50 or 100 years from now. For us, as time goes on, our ways and means of practicing Islam will be different but the true essence behind those different actions will remain the same.

exactly, you gotta take into consideration the time, era and the geographic region and to which culture the Quran was revealed to. When it was revealed there were alot of people worshipping idols at the time, which explains the severity of the Quran. If you can imagine the Quran being revealed today then obviously it wouldn't be in the same sense would it? :o

[nabilah18]

I know that by me saying this, it won't really change your opinion or bring light into your perspective but in order to defend my religion...I hope you realize that Sunni's are extremely orthodox, they go by the literal meaning of the Quran. Shia's ((Ismailis in particular)) aren't that literal. We take the symbolic meaning behind what is written and modify it so that it relates in our everyday life. For you guys, the meaning will be the same 50 or 100 years from now. For us, as time goes on, our ways and means of practicing Islam will be different but the true essence behind those different actions will remain the same.

The vast majority of Shias follow the Quran literally. Dont speak for them.

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Quran is mubeen i.e. which makes things clear and manifest

"A. L. R. These are the Ayats of Revelation,- of a Qur'an that makes things clear (qur-anin mubeenin). " [15:1]

"We have not instructed the (Prophet) in Poetry, nor is it meet for him: this is no less than a Message and a Qur'an making things clear: (qur-anun mubeenun)" [36:69]

Quran is noor-e-mubeen i.e. a light which makes things clear and manifest

" O mankind! verily there hath come to you a convincing proof from your Lord: For We have sent unto you a light (that is) manifest (nooran mubeenan)" [4:174]

Quran is kitaab-e-mubeen i.e. a book which makes things clear and manifest

" O people of the Book! There hath come to you our Messenger, revealing to you much that ye used to hide in the Book, and passing over much (that is now unnecessary): There hath come to you from Allah a (new) light and a perspicuous Book, -(kitabun mubeenun) "[5:15]

"A.L.R. These are the symbols (or Verses) of the perspicuous Book. (alkitabi almubeenu)" [12:1]

"These are verses of the Book that makes (things) clear.(alkitabialmubeeni) " [26:2]

"These are verses of the Qur'an,-a book that makes (things) clear; (kitabin mubeenin)" [27:1]

"These are Verses of the Book that makes (things) clear.(alkitabialmubeeni) " [28:2]

"By the Book that makes things clear,- (Waalkitabi almubeeni)" [43:2, 44:2]

The verses of the Quran are "bayyinat", i.e plain, clear, distinct and perspicuous

"We have sent down to thee Manifest Verses (ayatinbayyinatin); and none reject them but those who are perverse.

Please also see 10:15, 19:73, 22:16, 22:72, 24:1, 34:43, 46:7, 57:9, 58:5

The verses of the Quran are "mubayyinat", i.e which make things plain, clear, distinct and perspicuous

"We have already sent down to you verses making things clear (ayatinmubayyinatin) , an illustration from (the story of) people who passed away before you, and an admonition for those who fear (Allah)." [24:34]

Please also see 24:46, 65:11

The language of the Quran is mubeen i.e. which makes things clear and manifest

"Now, behold, this Qur'an is the Revelation from the Lord of the Worlds. The trustworthy Ruh (angel Gabriel) has brought it down. Upon your heart (O Prophet), so that you may be of the Warners. In the perspicuous Arabic language.(AAarabiyyin mubeenin)" [26:192-195]

"We know indeed that they say, "It is a man that teaches him." The tongue of him they wickedly point to is notably foreign, while this is Arabic, pure and clear.(AAarabiyyunmubeenun)" [16:103]

Allah makes the verses of the Quran plain and clear within the Quran [BAYAN]

"GOD wills to explain things for you, and to guide you through past precedents, and to redeem you. GOD is Omniscient, Most Wise." [4:26]

"They ask you about intoxicants and gambling: say, "In them there is a gross sin, and some benefits for the people. But their sinfulness far outweighs their benefit." They also ask you what to give to charity: say, "The excess." GOD thus clarifies the revelations for you, that you may reflect," [2:219]

"Do not marry idolatresses unless they believe; a believing woman is better than an idolatress, even if you like her. Nor shall you give your daughters in marriage to idolatrous men, unless they believe. A believing man is better than an idolater, even if you like him. These invite to Hell, while GOD invites to Paradise and forgiveness, as He wills. He clarifies His revelations for the people, that they may take heed." [2:221]

"GOD thus explains His revelations for you, that you may understand." [2:242]

"Does any of you wish to own a garden of palm trees and grapes, with flowing streams and generous crops, then, just as he grows old, and while his children are still dependent on him, a holocaust strikes and burns up his garden? GOD thus clarifies the revelations for you, that you may reflect." [2:266]

"You shall hold fast to the rope of GOD, all of you, and do not be divided. Recall GOD's blessings upon you - you used to be enemies and He reconciled your hearts. By His grace, you became brethren. You were at the brink of a pit of fire, and He saved you therefrom. GOD thus explains His revelations for you, that you may be guided." [3:301]

"O you who believe, do not befriend outsiders who never cease to wish you harm; they even wish to see you suffer. Hatred flows out of their mouths and what they hide in their chests is far worse. We thus clarify the revelations for you, if you understand." [3:108]

"They consult you; say, "GOD advises you concerning the single person. If one dies and leaves no children, and he had a sister, she gets half the inheritance. If she dies first, he inherits from her, if she left no children. If there were two sisters, they get two-thirds of the inheritance. If the siblings are men and women, the male gets twice the share of the female." GOD thus clarifies for you, lest you go astray. GOD is fully aware of all things." [4:176]

"GOD does not hold you responsible for the mere utterance of oaths; He holds you responsible for your actual intentions. If you violate an oath, you shall atone by feeding ten poor people from the same food you offer to your own family, or clothing them, or by freeing a slave. If you cannot afford this, then you shall fast three days. This is the atonement for violating the oaths that you swore to keep. You shall fulfill your oaths. GOD thus explains His revelations to you, that you may be appreciative." [5:89]

"GOD thus explains the revelations for you. GOD is Omniscient, Wise." [24:18]

"O you who believe, permission must be requested by your servants and the children who have not attained puberty (before entering your rooms). This is to be done in three instances - before the Dawn Prayer, at noon when you change your clothes to rest, and after the Night Prayer. These are three private times for you. At other times, it is not wrong for you or them to mingle with one another. GOD thus clarifies the revelations for you. GOD is Omniscient, Most Wise." [24:58]

"Once the children reach puberty, they must ask permission (before entering) like those who became adults before them have asked permission (before entering). GOD thus clarifies His revelations for you. GOD is Omniscient, Most Wise." [24:59]

"The blind is not to be blamed, the crippled is not to be blamed, nor is the handicapped to be blamed, just as you are not to be blamed for eating at your homes, or the homes of your fathers, or the homes of your mothers, or the homes of your brothers, or the homes of your sisters, or the homes of your fathers' brothers, or the homes of your fathers' sisters, or the homes of your mothers' brothers, or the homes of your mothers' sisters, or the homes that belong to you and you possess their keys, or the homes of your friends. You commit nothing wrong by eating together or as individuals. When you enter any home, you shall greet each other a greeting from GOD that is blessed and good. GOD thus explains the revelations for you, that you may understand."[24:61]

"Know that GOD revives the land after it had died. We thus explain the revelations for you, that you may understand." [57:17]

Everything in the Quran is fully clarified [TIBYAN]

"The day will come when we will raise from every community a witness from among them, and bring you as the witness of these people. We have revealed to you this book to provide explanations for everything, and guidance, and mercy, and good news for the submitters." [16:89]




How can you interpret this to mean that fasting is not obligatory?



2:185 It was the month of Ramadan in which the Qur'an was [first] bestowed from on high as a guidance unto man and a self-evident proof of that guidance, and as the standard by which to discern the true from the false. Hence, whoever of you lives to see [158] this month shall fast throughout it; but he that is ill, or on a journey, [shall fast instead for the same] number of other days. God wills that you shall have ease, and does not will you to suffer hardship; but [He desires] that you complete the number [of days required], and that you extol God for His having guided you aright, and that you render your thanks [unto Him].

[chunky]

I know that by me saying this, it won't really change your opinion or bring light into your perspective but in order to defend my religion...I hope you realize that Sunni's are extremely orthodox, they go by the literal meaning of the Quran. Shia's ((Ismailis in particular)) aren't that literal. We take the symbolic meaning behind what is written and modify it so that it relates in our everyday life. For you guys, the meaning will be the same 50 or 100 years from now. For us, as time goes on, our ways and means of practicing Islam will be different but the true essence behind those different actions will remain the same.

LMAO. so what's the point in beliving in anything if you're just going to modify it to suit what's convenient at the time?

[SIXPAK GQ]

hahaha...yeah it's funny how some ppl can manage to go on and on asking ?s which they think they know the answer of...thas great. you must be really intelligent...however, it surprises me that you still can't read teh topic of this thread....ehh it depresses me more than it surprises me.


who are u referring this to