:::: Minority Treatment In Pakistan :::

[Rishi_TEX]

A COUNTRY THAT WAS ESTABLISHED TO BE SECULAR....NOW IS DRAPED W/ THE CLOAK OF ISLAMIC REPUBLIC AND THUS MINORITY CIVIL RIGHTS HAVE BEEN SEVERALY AFFECTED.

QUOTE:

A report from Irfan Hussain ('Conversion Losses') in The Dawn http://www.dawn.com/weekly/mazdak/mazdak.htm relates the sad story of a Hindu couple in Karachi, whose three daughters, Reena (21), Usha (19) and Rima (17), vanished without a trace on October 18th.

The next the parents heard about the three girls was via a courier package which had three identical affidavits from the girls saying they had voluntarily converted to Islam and therefore couldn't live with their Hindu parents. It is quite possible that they have been kidnapped, forcibly married, and converted under duress, but as helpless minority people in Muslim-fundamentalist Pakistan, the parents have no hope for justice. But the mullahs have generously offered them, too, the opportunity to convert to Islam.

The kidnapping and forced marriage/conversion of Hindu women is intended in part to humiliate the community by showing them that they cannot protect their valued daughters. In a culture where 'honour' is important -– as seen in the many 'honour killings' of Muslim women who dare to love non-Muslim men, in the UK, for instance -- this is the gravest possible dishonor. And it is an overt threat that Hindus had better convert.


MY Q IS....HOW LONG WILL THIS LAST?? FORCE CONVERSION? IGNORANCE TOWARDS MINORITIES??

[vycky]

A COUNTRY THAT WAS ESTABLISHED TO BE SECULAR....NOW IS DRAPED W/ THE CLOAK OF ISLAMIC REPUBLIC AND THUS MINORITY CIVIL RIGHTS HAVE BEEN SEVERALY AFFECTED.

QUOTE:

A report from Irfan Hussain ('Conversion Losses') in The Dawn http://www.dawn.com/weekly/mazdak/mazdak.htm relates the sad story of a Hindu couple in Karachi, whose three daughters, Reena (21), Usha (19) and Rima (17), vanished without a trace on October 18th.

The next the parents heard about the three girls was via a courier package which had three identical affidavits from the girls saying they had voluntarily converted to Islam and therefore couldn't live with their Hindu parents. It is quite possible that they have been kidnapped, forcibly married, and converted under duress, but as helpless minority people in Muslim-fundamentalist Pakistan, the parents have no hope for justice. But the mullahs have generously offered them, too, the opportunity to convert to Islam.

The kidnapping and forced marriage/conversion of Hindu women is intended in part to humiliate the community by showing them that they cannot protect their valued daughters. In a culture where 'honour' is important -– as seen in the many 'honour killings' of Muslim women who dare to love non-Muslim men, in the UK, for instance -- this is the gravest possible dishonor. And it is an overt threat that Hindus had better convert.


MY Q IS....HOW LONG WILL THIS LAST?? FORCE CONVERSION? IGNORANCE TOWARDS MINORITIES??
i am sure its not the reality ... we dont have any sort of minority treatment here like this atleast not in lahore ... :) ... it can be the hindu parents claiming may be their daughters converted muslims themselves ... i dont believe this at all :) i live in pakistan and im sure about it :)

[FunkyF]

Yes, it was really bad when Pakistan burned to death THOUSANDS of it's minorities wh......OOPS, that was Gujrat,INDIA!

[vycky]

Yes, it was really bad when Pakistan burned to death THOUSANDS of it's minorities wh......OOPS, that was Gujrat,INDIA!
right !! ...
and yeah the poster of the topic let me tell u onething go browse minority treatment and worst of it in the history ... u'll find india above it ... i am sure about it ... if u've said that they killed them i wud've believed u ... but i dont believe on this conversion .. its just because their parents cant take it ... may be or may be not but i am 80 percent sure of this conversion is not true :)

[vycky]

A COUNTRY THAT WAS ESTABLISHED TO BE SECULAR....NOW IS DRAPED W/ THE CLOAK OF ISLAMIC REPUBLIC AND THUS MINORITY CIVIL RIGHTS HAVE BEEN SEVERALY AFFECTED.

QUOTE:

A report from Irfan Hussain ('Conversion Losses') in The Dawn http://www.dawn.com/weekly/mazdak/mazdak.htm relates the sad story of a Hindu couple in Karachi, whose three daughters, Reena (21), Usha (19) and Rima (17), vanished without a trace on October 18th.

The next the parents heard about the three girls was via a courier package which had three identical affidavits from the girls saying they had voluntarily converted to Islam and therefore couldn't live with their Hindu parents. It is quite possible that they have been kidnapped, forcibly married, and converted under duress, but as helpless minority people in Muslim-fundamentalist Pakistan, the parents have no hope for justice. But the mullahs have generously offered them, too, the opportunity to convert to Islam.

The kidnapping and forced marriage/conversion of Hindu women is intended in part to humiliate the community by showing them that they cannot protect their valued daughters. In a culture where 'honour' is important -– as seen in the many 'honour killings' of Muslim women who dare to love non-Muslim men, in the UK, for instance -- this is the gravest possible dishonor. And it is an overt threat that Hindus had better convert.


MY Q IS....HOW LONG WILL THIS LAST?? FORCE CONVERSION? IGNORANCE TOWARDS MINORITIES??
yeah and i agree with that honour killing part ... but oh what i remember that program of National Geographic showed about a gurl loving a guy ... and her mother got her killed ... oh yeah i remember that gurl was indian living in canada ... and guy was hindu from india ... oh oh ... honour killing is just in pakistan isnt it? God damn it why dont u people just think over it that losers and sick bastards are every where do u just point finger on one?

[Dzat111]

that articles pointless....instances like these occur on both sides of the border

[Rishi_TEX]

right !! ...
and yeah the poster of the topic let me tell u onething go browse minority treatment and worst of it in the history ... u'll find india above it ... i am sure about it ... if u've said that they killed them i wud've believed u ... but i dont believe on this conversion .. its just because their parents cant take it ... may be or may be not but i am 80 percent sure of this conversion is not true :)


WAT U TALKIN BOUT?? tons of ppl in northern province converted to christianity in fear of attacks from muslims....since christianity is by the book....its considered to be on the same page w/ islam as oppose to hinduism/buddhism

[vycky]

that articles pointless....instances like these occur on both sides of the border
i agree!! totally

[Rishi_TEX]

Yes, it was really bad when Pakistan burned to death THOUSANDS of it's minorities wh......OOPS, that was Gujrat,INDIA!


BS....massacre by paki army in bangladesh???? massacre of hindus during partition???

[Rishi_TEX]

that articles pointless....instances like these occur on both sides of the border


so wat? human rights violation is on the up side in pak, ppl dont agree coz most ppl here r pakis so obv biased views.....check UN page if you r not beleiving

[vycky]

WAT U TALKIN BOUT?? tons of ppl in northern province converted to christianity in fear of attacks from muslims....since christianity is by the book....its considered to be on the same page w/ islam as oppose to hinduism/buddhism
WTF !! dude u re saying like u've lived there ... for God sake dont say until u experience it ... we arent extermists here and definatey not ... i admitted ur part of honour killing yeah it happens and it happens every where .. but oh yeah i dont agree with that conversion part cuz its totally wrong ... God damn it!! and yeah i remember sanjay dutt for getting prisoned jes cuz he was suspected to be converting towards islam by ball thakuray .. and oh yeah i remember Ball Thakuray after A.R.Rehman got converted ... Get over dude extremists are every where but i dont believe that conversion part cuz its all fake and bullshit ...

[vycky]

BS....massacre by paki army in bangladesh???? massacre of hindus during partition???
and what about massacre of muslims during partition? what about burning the whole buildings of muslims ten years back .. how about that babari masjid in india ... God damn it .. stop giving examples ... india has alot of them

[vycky]

so wat? human rights violation is on the up side in pak, ppl dont agree coz most ppl here r pakis so obv biased views.....check UN page if you r not beleiving
oh fuck UN .. they always represent paki's as non liberal un educated bastards .. come here and pay a visit and say after what u will see and experience ... bleh

[Rishi_TEX]

oh fuck UN .. they always represent paki's as non liberal un educated bastards .. come here and pay a visit and say after what u will see and experience ... bleh


wtf im not sayin everyone does it, but there is a small portion of population who believe in extremist steps.....wat u mean u dont believe it??? this issue was raised in pakistan parliament too????? theres defintiely forced conversion going on......


sanjay dutt's mom was muslim, n he was arrested for illegal weapons

[Rishi_TEX]

this thread is abt minority conditions in pakistan, not a hate thread, if you cant have a mature discussion then fuck off

[vycky]

wtf im not sayin everyone does it, but there is a small portion of population who believe in extremist steps.....wat u mean u dont believe it??? this issue was raised in pakistan parliament too????? theres defintiely forced conversion going on......


sanjay dutt's mom was muslim, n he was arrested for illegal weapons
and u blame pakistan for that ..? wow great !!!
duh!! issue's are every where dude how can u ignore india for that if i'll just waste some ov my time on searching such issue's relating india trust me google will give me billions of pages so lets shut it here cuz u know its every where and still i dont believe in that conversion God Damn it !! ... Sindh area is of extremists i believe in that but still we dont hear the conversion news in locals and i believe when onething which is not known local cant be of international issue either .. trust me =) i know my media well and i've been doing internships in newspapers and i am kinda related to media field so i am still saying stop argueing when u havent seen anything for urself ... better pay a visit and then speak God damn it!!

[vycky]

this thread is abt minority conditions in pakistan, not a hate thread, if you cant have a mature discussion then fuck off
i am not hating u loser ... im trying to prove u something cuz im a local here and i know better then you ... so u better try and understand ... a local is someone who knows better then those who jes see through media ... bro .. i agreed on the part of honour killing and it has to be stopped but i dont believe the part of conversion cuz its once in a blue moon and let me tell you one more thing you are yelling the mullah things... since musharaf has took over the government such extremists organizations are to an end they are grounded ... they dont have the same powers as they used to and u are mentioning that as if pakistan dont produce terrorists how can u be so sure that india doesnt ...

[Rishi_TEX]

i am not hating u loser ... im trying to prove u something cuz im a local here and i know better then you ... so u better try and understand ... a local is someone who knows better then those who jes see through media ... bro .. i agreed on the part of honour killing and it has to be stopped but i dont believe the part of conversion cuz its once in a blue moon and let me tell you one more thing you are yelling the mullah things... since musharaf has took over the government such extremists organizations are to an end they are grounded ... they dont have the same powers as they used to and u are mentioning that as if pakistan dont produce terrorists how can u be so sure that india doesnt ...


dude the focus is pakistan, not india, even if india has human rights violation, which it does i kno.....that doesnt make pak's condition better? u kno wat im saying? so focus on pak

[phatty]

wow that is some crazy stuff
i feel horrible for the parents

[vycky]

dude the focus is pakistan, not india, even if india has human rights violation, which it does i kno.....that doesnt make pak's condition better? u kno wat im saying? so focus on pak
if you will jes get the crap out that there is a forced conversion then u will get what im saying ... its like there are once in a blue moon conversion forced not any more now ... mullaah's dont have the fucking powers to do it dude since musharaf took over and my point is ... i am a local and i know the condition better ... its jes the media spreading some issue's jes to black mail the government ... these cases are not usual ...

[vyxen]

Minorities are taken advantage of everywhere and as unjusifiable as it is,u can't pinpoint Pakistan. As for human rights, how do u justify children being married off to dogs n cows in India and girls married off to the quran in pakistan. This needs to STOP everywhere.. This shouln't be a regional agenda.

[vycky]

Minorities are taken advantage of everywhere and as unjusifiable as it is,u can't pinpoint Pakistan. As for human rights, how do u justify children being married off to dogs n cows in India and girls married off to the quran in pakistan. This needs to STOP everywhere.. This shouln't be a regional agenda.
exactly and thats what im saying ... but this guy has to focus pakistan .. as pakistan was the starter ... and as if it only happens in pakistan

[Street_Scholar]

http://www.phrusa.org/research/torture/torink.html

http://hrw.org/english/docs/2005/01/14/india10019.htm

http://hrw.org/english/docs/2004/09/23/india9383.htm

http://hrw.org/english/docs/2004/07/29/india9156.htm

http://hrw.org/english/docs/2004/07/10/india9051.htm

http://hrw.org/english/docs/2003/07/01/india6190.htm

http://hrw.org/editorials/2003/india013103.htm

[Zain-al-abedeen]

A COUNTRY THAT WAS ESTABLISHED TO BE SECULAR....NOW IS DRAPED W/ THE CLOAK OF ISLAMIC REPUBLIC AND THUS MINORITY CIVIL RIGHTS HAVE BEEN SEVERALY AFFECTED.

QUOTE:

A report from Irfan Hussain ('Conversion Losses') in The Dawn http://www.dawn.com/weekly/mazdak/mazdak.htm relates the sad story of a Hindu couple in Karachi, whose three daughters, Reena (21), Usha (19) and Rima (17), vanished without a trace on October 18th.

The next the parents heard about the three girls was via a courier package which had three identical affidavits from the girls saying they had voluntarily converted to Islam and therefore couldn't live with their Hindu parents. It is quite possible that they have been kidnapped, forcibly married, and converted under duress, but as helpless minority people in Muslim-fundamentalist Pakistan, the parents have no hope for justice. But the mullahs have generously offered them, too, the opportunity to convert to Islam.

The kidnapping and forced marriage/conversion of Hindu women is intended in part to humiliate the community by showing them that they cannot protect their valued daughters. In a culture where 'honour' is important -– as seen in the many 'honour killings' of Muslim women who dare to love non-Muslim men, in the UK, for instance -- this is the gravest possible dishonor. And it is an overt threat that Hindus had better convert.


MY Q IS....HOW LONG WILL THIS LAST?? FORCE CONVERSION? IGNORANCE TOWARDS MINORITIES??




I lived in india .... INDIAS WORSE!

[Geezer]

I dont think any of you can have a mature discussion without insulting and swearing. Locked & junked.