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I 0_0 I
December 15th, 2005, 02:56 PM
I stream a steady and healthy amount of different papers and sources around the globe. Everywhere from Xinhua to cnn to reuters to the brazillian papers. The most unprofessional one HAS to be TOI. Aka Times of India. A literary excercise in whining and one upmanship. Check out the Headline on todays supplication.


Pak did not help in seeking Kutty's release
NEW DELHI: India had sought Pakistan's help in seeking the release of Indian hostage MR Kutty in Afghanistan but Islamabad did not offer any assistance in this regard, Government told the Rajya Sabha on Thursday.

Government had contacted Pakistani authorities to seek their assistance in the matter of release of the Indian hostage in Afghanistan, Minister of State for External Affairs E Ahamed said in a written reply to a question.

"No, Sir", he responded to the query as to whether Pakistan had offered any assistance in this regard.

I 0_0 I
December 15th, 2005, 02:57 PM
Ofcourse fox news can't be beaten in this genre, and they remains number 1 in my opinion.

nvthis
December 16th, 2005, 12:32 AM
Nah, I think The Tribune is worse, Times of India is still ok, I like Indian express as well.

tamil_desi
December 16th, 2005, 11:18 AM
Ofcourse fox news can't be beaten in this genre, and they remains number 1 in my opinion.

Here we go with the Fox News bashing. I'm not saying your completly wrong, but watch CNN or CBS (They do the same stuff you're complaining about on the other side of the aisle.)

Geezer
December 16th, 2005, 11:20 AM
I dont media is independent and accurate these days. There's always a mix of truth, propaganda, conspiracy and sexed up stories in there.

teddy_bare
December 16th, 2005, 11:20 AM
u ever "read" the Daily Sport?

tamil_desi
December 16th, 2005, 11:22 AM
I dont media is independent and accurate these days. There's always a mix of truth, propaganda, conspiracy and sexed up stories in there.

I would say that is accurate. Therefore, we should know what media represents its particular viewpoint, and watch its opposition to get both sides of the story. It's the responsible thing to do.

teddy_bare
December 16th, 2005, 11:28 AM
the media in never inpartial just look at when Bush stole the election
al the polls were saying he had lost till his brouther in law at CNN suddenly declared him as the winner... and cos none of the other broadcasters wanted to be the last 2 declare the winner they jumped on the bandwagon
another point is all newspaper have an agenda, these usually are the views of the editors and the proprioters when its a private paper e.g. the editor of the Times in the UK is pro labour so will not print anti labour articles whilst the Daily Telegraph is pro conservative so print no anti coversative articles and if they do they sex em up

Geezer
December 16th, 2005, 11:38 AM
I personally think the best thing to do is watch it all(if you can lol) and cross-reference them to one another, make up your own mind.

teddy_bare
December 16th, 2005, 11:43 AM
I personally think the best thing to do is watch it all(if you can lol) and cross-reference them to one another, make up your own mind.
but hw can u do that when wot u recieving is mostly opinion and very little fact/information
u wil read "sadistic killer strikes again " wot u won't read is "another person killled"
thats cos sensationolism sells

nvthis
December 16th, 2005, 11:48 AM
I think media, in general, is really not trustworthy in issues such as religion etc because there is some, not all, but some bias and ultimately, its all about the rating.

Like there was an issue recently, there is a show in Australia called 'Current Affair' where they report on issues which effect general australians and after the London bombings and the whole terrorism thing refreshed, they interviwed a Muslim about what he thought about all this. In the whole interview, they only showed him for like 10 seconds and he said "Muslims will never assimilate into Australian society" which sounds quite :neutral:. This statement caused alot of controversy BUT what he was actually saying was that "Muslims will never assimilate into Australian society as much as other minority community groups because for example Australian culture includes going to the pub regularly etc but in Islam, alcohol is prohibited" The reporter had edited his interview.

What was even worse that in the ad's for this program, they repeatedly showed the muslim guy making the comment. Just that sole comment. :no:

Geezer
December 16th, 2005, 11:55 AM
but hw can u do that when wot u recieving is mostly opinion and very little fact/information
u wil read "sadistic killer strikes again " wot u won't read is "another person killled"
thats cos sensationolism sells

Those are extremes. You have to remain rational and openminded to different versions of a story. Say you hear something about the middle-east on fox news and then you watch al-jazeera and its a completely different tune. Somewhere along the line you can understand for yourself what might be right or wrong.

teddy_bare
December 16th, 2005, 11:57 AM
there r 3 sides 2 a story the Fox verson the Al-Jaz version and then there is the truth they wil manipulate any story to suite their agenda

The Anti Desi
December 16th, 2005, 01:05 PM
Ofcourse fox news can't be beaten in this genre, and they remains number 1 in my opinion.
I would say conservatively biased, not unprofessional.

Irreligious Left
December 16th, 2005, 01:29 PM
I stream a steady and healthy amount of different papers and sources around the globe. Everywhere from Xinhua to cnn to reuters to the brazillian papers. The most unprofessional one HAS to be TOI. Aka Times of India. A literary excercise in whining and one upmanship. Check out the Headline on todays supplication.


Pak did not help in seeking Kutty's release
NEW DELHI: India had sought Pakistan's help in seeking the release of Indian hostage MR Kutty in Afghanistan but Islamabad did not offer any assistance in this regard, Government told the Rajya Sabha on Thursday.

Government had contacted Pakistani authorities to seek their assistance in the matter of release of the Indian hostage in Afghanistan, Minister of State for External Affairs E Ahamed said in a written reply to a question.

"No, Sir", he responded to the query as to whether Pakistan had offered any assistance in this regard.

I'm not seeing the unprofessionalism. Unless the what's being reported is patently untrue, it seems like pretty straight reportage.

bad_cheque
December 16th, 2005, 05:48 PM
I stream a steady and healthy amount of different papers and sources around the globe. Everywhere from Xinhua to cnn to reuters to the brazillian papers. The most unprofessional one HAS to be TOI. Aka Times of India. A literary excercise in whining and one upmanship. Check out the Headline on todays supplication.


Pak did not help in seeking Kutty's release
NEW DELHI: India had sought Pakistan's help in seeking the release of Indian hostage MR Kutty in Afghanistan but Islamabad did not offer any assistance in this regard, Government told the Rajya Sabha on Thursday.

Government had contacted Pakistani authorities to seek their assistance in the matter of release of the Indian hostage in Afghanistan, Minister of State for External Affairs E Ahamed said in a written reply to a question.

"No, Sir", he responded to the query as to whether Pakistan had offered any assistance in this regard.

I don't see your point.

But yes, TOI is generally considered the shittiest newspaper in India. It is a newspaper tailored to sell the most number of copies. They start a price war and defeat competition. Also they add a lot of tits and ass. So it sells.

But none of the Indian media outlets can outdo such paragons of journalism as FOX News.

tamil_desi
December 16th, 2005, 10:30 PM
I personally think the best thing to do is watch it all(if you can lol) and cross-reference them to one another, make up your own mind.

Annan that's almost exactly what I said..lol...I think 2 posts above yours.

nvthis
December 17th, 2005, 12:18 AM
The Tribune is still the shittiest.

bad_cheque
December 17th, 2005, 04:42 AM
The Tribune is still the shittiest.
The Tribune is not really a national newspaper and you might not have seen the Times of India. You could start by looking at their tacky website.

nvthis
December 17th, 2005, 07:54 AM
The Tribune is not really a national newspaper and you might not have seen the Times of India. You could start by looking at their tacky website.

I have seen the Times of India, lived in India for 14 yrs man. Anyways, The Tribune reporters really need some English lessons. Times of India is ok but I prefer Indian Express or Hindustan Times.

Yeah you're right, The Tribune is more of a Punjab/Haryana newspaper.

bad_cheque
December 17th, 2005, 10:50 AM
I have seen the Times of India, lived in India for 14 yrs man. Anyways, The Tribune reporters really need some English lessons. Times of India is ok but I prefer Indian Express or Hindustan Times.

Yeah you're right, The Tribune is more of a Punjab/Haryana newspaper.
I remember Tribune now....thats a B-grade newspaper.

I like Hindustan Times. Indian Express is more like a scandal-sheet.

Street_Scholar
December 17th, 2005, 12:22 PM
I like to use: http://www.paktribune.com/

Its one of the best

MrHarmfulOne
December 17th, 2005, 01:06 PM
The Register in Southern Californa is a joke.

It's poorly written to be honest and they do silly articles.

I 0_0 I
January 20th, 2006, 03:44 PM
I'm not seeing the unprofessionalism. Unless the what's being reported is patently untrue, it seems like pretty straight reportage.

Take a good look at it. Its a whine. and look at the quote, lolol. NO SIR. Also it was the headline on the main page of such a large newspaper.

Muslima786
January 20th, 2006, 03:48 PM
Here we go with the Fox News bashing. I'm not saying your completly wrong, but watch CNN or CBS (They do the same stuff you're complaining about on the other side of the aisle.)

yea they all are corporate controlled media outlets and that supposed liberal bias in CNN is well within in the spectrum of the status quo...if you want real news minus the dramatic/personalized filtered bullshit the corporate elite media presents i suggest you look into alternative independent non profit media news.

bad_cheque
January 20th, 2006, 04:10 PM
yea they all are corporate controlled media outlets and that supposed liberal bias in CNN is well within in the spectrum of the status quo...if you want real news minus the dramatic/personalized filtered bullshit the corporate elite media presents i suggest you look into alternative independent non profit media news.
How do you mix Islamism with your other political beliefs?

Anyway, you got it straight :)

Space-Cowboy
January 20th, 2006, 04:13 PM
I personally think the best thing to do is watch it all(if you can lol) and cross-reference them to one another, make up your own mind.


We live in a time sensitive culture... there's just not enough time to be doing all that.

bad_cheque
January 20th, 2006, 04:15 PM
We live in a time sensitive culture... there's just not enough time to be doing all that.
Do you ever wonder if we are being ran around like this so that we don't pay enough attention? That all this is deliberate?.....I am sounding like a conspiracy theorist now :(

Space-Cowboy
January 20th, 2006, 05:54 PM
Do you ever wonder if we are being ran around like this so that we don't pay enough attention? That all this is deliberate?.....I am sounding like a conspiracy theorist now :(


.... That's a pretty bold claim there bro... :|

nvthis
January 20th, 2006, 06:00 PM
Do you ever wonder if we are being ran around like this so that we don't pay enough attention? That all this is deliberate?.....I am sounding like a conspiracy theorist now :(

Or that we dont question the higher power.

BooyA!

aspaan
January 20th, 2006, 06:30 PM
I like www.ndtv.com they have pranoy roy who is my fav journalist

bad_cheque
January 20th, 2006, 06:58 PM
I like www.ndtv.com they have pranoy roy who is my fav journalist
NDTV is extremely biased and pseudo-secular.

aspaan
January 20th, 2006, 07:17 PM
NDTV is extremely biased and pseudo-secular.

not really dude i have seen them bashing that fucker Bal Thackeray several times

And they covered Gujarat Riots pretty well. Actually showed all the shit Extremist pulled on Muslims in Gujarat.

Zee TV on the other hand is controlled by BJP. During election time thay had huge segments on Vajpayee at the prime time news . Showing his Various aspects of life like poetry and what not. What kind of BS is that

bad_cheque
January 20th, 2006, 07:40 PM
not really dude i have seen them bashing that fucker Bal Thackeray several times

And they covered Gujarat Riots pretty well. Actually showed all the shit Extremist pulled on Muslims in Gujarat.

Zee TV on the other hand is controlled by BJP. During election time thay had huge segments on Vajpayee at the prime time news . Showing his Various aspects of life like poetry and what not. What kind of BS is that
I think NDTV's coverage of the Gujarat riots was biased against Hindus. I remember that lady saying that only Muslim shops were torched and hence it was pre-planned. Anybody in the locality will know which shops are owned by whom and there is no need for planning there. This is just one example. The whole thing was sensationalised.

I think another black day for the Indian TV media was the night of the Godhra massacre. I remember all these channels broadcasting news and then discussion. In all the discussions every politician and analyst were blaming the victims for the massacre. Everybody except the BJP/Hindutva brigade. I thought that was pretty fucked up. I also think it contributed to the riots that happened the next day. Then the coverage of the riots only creating lasting animosity.

The riots were wrong and the Indian tv media covered themselves with the blood.

NDTV doesn't bash Thackrey because if they bash him, they won't survive in Mumbai. Zee TV is a third-rate channel and I never watch it. Aaj Tak is pro-BJP. There are no unbiased channels in India.

nvthis
January 20th, 2006, 07:42 PM
I think NDTV's coverage of the Gujarat riots was biased against Hindus. I remember that lady saying that only Muslim shops were torched and hence it was pre-planned. Anybody in the locality will know which shops are owned by whom and there is no need for planning there. This is just one example. The whole thing was sensationalised.

I think another black day for the Indian TV media was the night of the Godhra massacre. I remember all these channels broadcasting news and then discussion. In all the discussions every politician and analyst were blaming the victims for the massacre. Everybody except the BJP/Hindutva brigade. I thought that was pretty fucked up. I also think it contributed to the riots that happened the next day. Then the coverage of the riots only creating lasting animosity.

The riots were wrong and the Indian tv media covered themselves with the blood.

NDTV doesn't bash Thackrey because if they bash him, they won't survive in Mumbai. Zee TV is a third-rate channel and I never watch it. Aaj Tak is pro-BJP. There are no unbiased channels in India.

Late night Channel V. :o

bad_cheque
January 20th, 2006, 07:47 PM
Late night Channel V. :o
:hand: I am 25.

nvthis
January 20th, 2006, 07:56 PM
:hand: I am 25.

The VJ's are older than you. :D

bad_cheque
January 20th, 2006, 09:13 PM
The VJ's are older than you. :D
They play too many Hindi songs. Biased :yes:

nvthis
January 20th, 2006, 09:16 PM
They play too many Hindi songs. Biased :yes:

Nope, thats MTV! Channel V has the right balance.

bad_cheque
January 20th, 2006, 09:19 PM
Nope, thats MTV! Channel V has the right balance.
Too many crappy songs....Bias :giggle:

lol! Am I getting into another argument here? :|

nvthis
January 20th, 2006, 09:22 PM
Too many crappy songs....Bias :giggle:

lol! Am I getting into another argument here? :|

Why yes, yes you are.

You ***** cow ***!!!!!

:p

bad_cheque
January 20th, 2006, 09:29 PM
Why yes, yes you are.

You ***** cow ***!!!!!

:p
Bull!

standingnotion
January 20th, 2006, 10:04 PM
I think media, all media, all media around the world is a bunch of liars! They lie to fill in their bank accounts. Therefore, all of them are un professional. Medias profession is to relay the truth for the knowledge of others and no media is doing that, so all of them is Garbage ;)

Regards

Adil

standingnotion
January 20th, 2006, 10:10 PM
Hey Guys,

Heres a better link. Infact a collection of links to different news sources relaying the same news. Enjoy!

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=pakistan+army+sikh

Regards,

Adil