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350z
November 15th, 2005, 09:54 PM
will you parents accept it? will you get kicked out of the family? Family's honor will be gone?

{RaiN}
November 15th, 2005, 09:56 PM
:dunno:
im hindu and my parents want me 2 hav a person of the same religion

but im not sure bout muslims

EwLookItsYou
November 15th, 2005, 10:03 PM
=[
my guy is a 3/4 jew actually but doesn practice.. actually he converted n follows hinduism.. but not relaly only spiritual-wise.
so.. its like.. twice as bad for me..? not only is his family from israel but when he converts he chose hinduism?

yup.

my mom wud have a mental breakdown n get committed

MR2Turbo
November 15th, 2005, 10:05 PM
As long as her daddy's loaded, it's all good.

superblade
November 15th, 2005, 10:05 PM
I'm Jewish, so my parents would be happy............

Unsigned Hype
November 15th, 2005, 10:07 PM
will you parents accept it? will you get kicked out of the family? Family's honor will be gone?
they say if you f00k a jewish girl u get 10 years good luck if you marry one hmmm u figure it out.......... but hey i dont know man if she converts it cool but if not i dont see how its gonna work out.........

350z
November 15th, 2005, 10:07 PM
=[

my guy's half jew but isn't practicing....
my mom wud have a mental breakdown n get committed

traitor! go suck his dick while innocent muslims are getting killed by jews in palestine.















that's what you might get as a response when you finally tell your family relatives. just preparing you for the future.

bellefemme
November 15th, 2005, 10:07 PM
will you parents accept it? will you get kicked out of the family? Family's honor will be gone?

According to the law, u cant marry a nonmuslim, they must convert, no matter what. I know this bangali guy married a Isreali jewish girl, after she converted islam, they are married for abt 26 or 27 years. They happily married, and their daughter married a Lebanonise muslim guy.
I think that my family will be dissapointed but they are not gonna disown me, my husband will still be a muslim, but I would still prefer a desi (bangali) guy. Its easier for me to communicate.

350z
November 15th, 2005, 10:07 PM
As long as her daddy's loaded, it's all good.

:D :D :D

350z
November 15th, 2005, 10:09 PM
According to the law, u cant marry a nonmuslim, they must convert, no matter what. I know this bangali guy married a Isreali jewish girl, after she converted islam, they are married for abt 26 or 27 years. They happily married, and their daughter married a Lebanonise muslim guy.
I think that my family will be dissapointed but they are not gonna disown me, my husband will still be a muslim, but I would still prefer a desi (bangali) guy. Its easier for me to communicate.

kamon acho? :eek: I never knew you were Bengali.

and I thought a muslim guy is allowed to marry a christian or jewish girl without the girl converting? :sarb:

Gladiator
November 15th, 2005, 10:09 PM
to me it doesnt matter if i marry a jewish or non-muslim.

superblade
November 15th, 2005, 10:09 PM
=[
my guy is a 3/4 jew actually but doesn practice.. actually he converted n follows hinduism.. but not relaly only spiritual-wise.
so.. its like.. twice as bad for me..? not only is his family from israel but when he converts he chose hinduism?

yup.

my mom wud have a mental breakdown n get committed



Heeeey...you remind me of my little pet Skippy!


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a241/bladesuper/6N8qXNyFDPBlIoQ1Ru9zV8nL2EWt.jpg

(RIP Skippy, 1999-2000)

arbigooner
November 15th, 2005, 10:11 PM
I would rather eat pork than marry a Jew.

reaz
November 15th, 2005, 10:12 PM
my parents wont allow it. and I agree now.

there are millions of muslims out there. why should I take the hassle of pissing off my parents for no real good reason? I've thought about it and it seems to me there is no real good reason for me to marry out of my religion. Hence I wont.

EwLookItsYou
November 15th, 2005, 10:13 PM
traitor! go suck his dick while innocent muslims are getting killed by jews in palestine.















that's what you might get as a response when you finally tell your family relatives. just preparing you for the future.

oh i was about to say :(
actually his whole family for the Palistinean cause.
well..
my family.. isn't like.. idk
my dad wud be like as long as he treats u right n u're happy. my dad is really cool like that.. hes like.. so not desi, he plays guitar, was in a rock band in bangladesh, n yeah.. lol.
my mom wud kill him, then me then herself. :neutral:

350z
November 15th, 2005, 10:14 PM
my mom wud kill him, then me then herself. :neutral:


lol ur probably the first family i heard where dad will be ok but not mom, usually it is the other way around

EwLookItsYou
November 15th, 2005, 10:15 PM
Heeeey...you remind me of my little pet Skippy!


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a241/bladesuper/6N8qXNyFDPBlIoQ1Ru9zV8nL2EWt.jpg

(RIP Skippy, 1999-2000)
yeaah! i kno him! i copied his look hope u dont mind!!

superblade
November 15th, 2005, 10:15 PM
I dont understand you racists!!!

Whats wrong with marrying someone who is Jewish!!!

god loves all peoples!!!

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a241/bladesuper/4xWXh6AoUnSPF4QxX2RtfYQ4P7re.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a241/bladesuper/yXvGir2jCsJitWuxLHUwlleUJBOm.jpg

EwLookItsYou
November 15th, 2005, 10:16 PM
lol ur probably the first family i heard where dad will be ok but not mom, usually it is the other way around
my dad is so laid back n open-minded...

The Anti Desi
November 15th, 2005, 10:17 PM
Its perfectly legal....so no one can complain.

Though I got some set standards.

The Anti Desi
November 15th, 2005, 10:20 PM
According to the law, u cant marry a nonmuslim, they must convert, no matter what. I know this bangali guy married a Isreali jewish girl, after she converted islam, they are married for abt 26 or 27 years. They happily married, and their daughter married a Lebanonise muslim guy.
I think that my family will be dissapointed but they are not gonna disown me, my husband will still be a muslim, but I would still prefer a desi (bangali) guy. Its easier for me to communicate.
Its legal to marry a Christian or Jew, provided they believe in God. No need to change religion.

superblade
November 15th, 2005, 10:20 PM
Its perfectly legal....so no one can complain.

Though I got some set standards.

yeah, a Jewish Hijab-wearing Metalhead.............

350z
November 15th, 2005, 10:21 PM
yeah, a Jewish Hijab-wearing Metalhead.............

:rofl:

bellefemme
November 15th, 2005, 10:22 PM
kamon acho? :eek: I never knew you were Bengali.

and I thought a muslim guy is allowed to marry a christian or jewish girl without the girl converting? :sarb:
aaaawwww, how sweet ur bangali too, whats up bhaiya, lolz. u got the wrong idea abt the converting thing. If that person doesnt convert, then the marriage is considered an adultry.

selina_786
November 15th, 2005, 10:22 PM
I would rather eat pork than marry a Jew.
:wtf:

Rishi_TEX
November 15th, 2005, 10:22 PM
I would rather eat pork than marry a Jew.


the q is whether a jew will eva marry u

bellefemme
November 15th, 2005, 10:23 PM
Its legal to marry a Christian or Jew, provided they believe in God. No need to change religion.

who told u that mister, show me some proof

superblade
November 15th, 2005, 10:24 PM
Jewish girls are HOTTTT!!!!!


Oye VeeeeeY!!!!




http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a241/bladesuper/111c.jpg

Rishi_TEX
November 15th, 2005, 10:24 PM
who told u that mister, show me some proof


i kno some muslim girls who dates american jews ...so?

bellefemme
November 15th, 2005, 10:25 PM
i kno some muslim girls who dates american jews ...so?
well thats their problem, but its not allowed in the religion.

350z
November 15th, 2005, 10:25 PM
who told u that mister, show me some proof

tik balse Anti, if you are a muslim guy u can marry a girl from who is christian or jewish without the girl converting.

brwnsugaa22
November 15th, 2005, 10:25 PM
will you parents accept it? will you get kicked out of the family? Family's honor will be gone?

no, yes, yes......

350z
November 15th, 2005, 10:27 PM
i kno some muslim girls who dates american jews ...so?


and I know some jewish girls who date muslim guys



all of them are going to hell.





























:p :p :p

Rishi_TEX
November 15th, 2005, 10:28 PM
well thats their problem, but its not allowed in the religion.


so lemme get this st8t: only a muslim guy can marry a jew if she converts, n muslim girls cant marry jew...unless the guy converts.....so in both cases...conversion is imp? feelings doesnt matter?

ezbreezyfresh
November 15th, 2005, 10:28 PM
yeah, a Jewish Hijab-wearing Metalhead.............

:rofl:

GT & MK KING
November 15th, 2005, 10:29 PM
if i married a jew, hell will break loose.

i'll hate her, she'll hate me. Nuff said.

no kids will happen between us.

ezbreezyfresh
November 15th, 2005, 10:31 PM
so lemme get this st8t: only a muslim guy can marry a jew if she converts, n muslim girls cant marry jew...unless the guy converts.....so in both cases...conversion is imp? feelings doesnt matter?

that is the sad truth about marrying a muslim person... :(

El_Diablo
November 15th, 2005, 10:33 PM
will you parents accept it? will you get kicked out of the family? Family's honor will be gone?
No. My parents have a thing about their grandchildren turning out big nosed and big eared with longer than normal sideburns.

:neutral:

bellefemme
November 15th, 2005, 10:33 PM
tik balse Anti, if you are a muslim guy u can marry a girl from who is christian or jewish without the girl converting.
Before u say his right, show some proof, or somewhere in the quran that mensions it's ok. If that was taken slightly, then ppl from other religion should be given the same reward for their good deeds same as a muslim, all the priests, cardinal, pundit, and so on, are very religious in their own way. why would everyone no matter how religious they are going to go to hell, besides the muslims. WHY? They believe in god too?

arbigooner
November 15th, 2005, 10:35 PM
that is the sad truth about marrying a muslim person... :(
its not sad, its perfectly logical. If you had a Jew and a Muslim marrying each other, what religion would the kids be? both parents would definitely want their kids to have their own religious ideals. We cant possibly have 'Eidakkah' like they have Chrismakkah in the OC.

ezbreezyfresh
November 15th, 2005, 10:36 PM
Before u say his right, show some proof, or somewhere in the quran that mensions it's ok. If that was taken slightly, then ppl from other religion should be given the same reward for their good deeds same as a muslim, all the priests, cardinal, pundit, and so on, are very religious in their own way. why would everyone no matter how religious they are going to go to hell, besides the muslims. WHY? They believe in god too?

u remind me of musilma( she posts on here too)...

Rishi_TEX
November 15th, 2005, 10:37 PM
its not sad, its perfectly logical. If you had a Jew and a Muslim marrying each other, what religion would the kids be? both parents would definitely want their kids to have their own religious ideals. We cant possibly have 'Eidakkah' like they have Christmakkah in the OC.


kids can choose whichever religion they feel like

bellefemme
November 15th, 2005, 10:37 PM
u remind me of musilma( she posts on here too)...
does she makes similar comments?

The Anti Desi
November 15th, 2005, 10:37 PM
who told u that mister, show me some proof
The only prohibition is marrying an idol worshipper

2:221 Do not marry unbelieving women (idolaters), until they believe: A slave woman who believes is better than an unbelieving woman, even though she allures you. Nor marry (your girls) to unbelievers until they believe: A man slave who believes is better than an unbeliever, even though he allures you. Unbelievers do (but) beckon you to the Fire. But Allah beckons by His Grace to the Garden (of bliss) and forgiveness, and makes His Signs clear to mankind: That they may celebrate His praise.

As for people of the Book (Jew and Christians), as long as they are not idol worshippers, they are legal for marriage.

3:199 And there are, certainly, among the People of the Book, those who believe in Allah, in the revelation to you, and in the revelation to them, bowing in humility to Allah. They will not sell the Signs of Allah for a miserable gain! For them is a reward with their Lord, and Allah is swift in account.

Allah has allowed men to marry those of the book.

5:5 This day are (all) things good and pure made lawful unto you. The food of the People of the Book is lawful unto you and yours is lawful unto them. (Lawful unto you in marriage) are (not only) chaste women who are believers, but chaste women among the People of the Book, revealed before your time,- when ye give them their due dowers, and desire chastity, not lewdness, nor secret intrigues if any one rejects faith, fruitless is his work, and in the Hereafter he will be in the ranks of those who have lost (all spiritual good).

While many may claim that Muslim women are not allowed to marry non-Muslim men due to this verse, there is no prohibition. That is a double standard implemented by men that was never authorized by Allah.

Rishi_TEX
November 15th, 2005, 10:37 PM
Before u say his right, show some proof, or somewhere in the quran that mensions it's ok. If that was taken slightly, then ppl from other religion should be given the same reward for their good deeds same as a muslim, all the priests, cardinal, pundit, and so on, are very religious in their own way. why would everyone no matter how religious they are going to go to hell, besides the muslims. WHY? They believe in god too?


u confused me there, wat good deeds u talkin bout??

The Anti Desi
November 15th, 2005, 10:39 PM
i kno some muslim girls who dates american jews ...so?
No dating beyond a platonic relationship is allowed.

Rishi_TEX
November 15th, 2005, 10:39 PM
The only prohibition is marrying an idol worshipper

2:221 Do not marry unbelieving women (idolaters), until they believe: A slave woman who believes is better than an unbelieving woman, even though she allures you. Nor marry (your girls) to unbelievers until they believe: A man slave who believes is better than an unbeliever, even though he allures you. Unbelievers do (but) beckon you to the Fire. But Allah beckons by His Grace to the Garden (of bliss) and forgiveness, and makes His Signs clear to mankind: That they may celebrate His praise.

As for people of the Book (Jew and Christians), as long as they are not idol worshippers, they are legal for marriage.

3:199 And there are, certainly, among the People of the Book, those who believe in Allah, in the revelation to you, and in the revelation to them, bowing in humility to Allah. They will not sell the Signs of Allah for a miserable gain! For them is a reward with their Lord, and Allah is swift in account.

Allah has allowed men to marry those of the book.

5:5 This day are (all) things good and pure made lawful unto you. The food of the People of the Book is lawful unto you and yours is lawful unto them. (Lawful unto you in marriage) are (not only) chaste women who are believers, but chaste women among the People of the Book, revealed before your time,- when ye give them their due dowers, and desire chastity, not lewdness, nor secret intrigues if any one rejects faith, fruitless is his work, and in the Hereafter he will be in the ranks of those who have lost (all spiritual good).

While many may claim that Muslim women are not allowed to marry non-Muslim men due to this verse, there is no prohibition. That is a double standard implemented by men that was never authorized by Allah.


^^ thas the key rite here

350z
November 15th, 2005, 10:39 PM
Before u say his right, show some proof, or somewhere in the quran that mensions it's ok. If that was taken slightly, then ppl from other religion should be given the same reward for their good deeds same as a muslim, all the priests, cardinal, pundit, and so on, are very religious in their own way. why would everyone no matter how religious they are going to go to hell, besides the muslims. WHY? They believe in god too?

all Jewish and Christian women, under all circumstances are lawful to be taken in marriage by Muslim men

http://www.understanding-islam.com/related/text.asp?type=question&qid=599

El_Diablo
November 15th, 2005, 10:39 PM
Before u say his right, show some proof, or somewhere in the quran that mensions it's ok. If that was taken slightly, then ppl from other religion should be given the same reward for their good deeds same as a muslim, all the priests, cardinal, pundit, and so on, are very religious in their own way. why would everyone no matter how religious they are going to go to hell, besides the muslims. WHY? They believe in god too?
This thread aint about the legality of marriage concerning people of the book. Its about the reprecussions of marrying a jew. Now get a fuckin grip n let the alter ego slip.

ezbreezyfresh
November 15th, 2005, 10:39 PM
its not sad, its perfectly logical. If you had a Jew and a Muslim marrying each other, what religion would the kids be? both parents would definitely want their kids to have their own religious ideals. We cant possibly have 'Eidakkah' like they have Christmakkah in the OC.

lol dude u would'nt understand.....my bf's muslim and im hindu..i love him very much but im not sure if i want to convert because i simply don't agree with most of what islamic beliefs and customs...so therefore no conversion=no future...now that makes me sad... :(

ezbreezyfresh
November 15th, 2005, 10:40 PM
does she makes similar comments?

:yes:

Rishi_TEX
November 15th, 2005, 10:41 PM
lol dude u would'nt understand.....my bf's muslim and im hindu..i love him very much but im not sure if i want to convert because i simply don't agree with most of what islamic beliefs and customs...so therefore no conversion=no future...now that makes me sad... :(


ru serious?? ^^^ :neutral:

El_Diablo
November 15th, 2005, 10:42 PM
the q is whether a jew will eva marry u
NO. The question is, WTF are you doing in this thread?? Did you mis read the part where the thread maker states 'to MUSLIMS only'?

Lock the door on your way out.

GT & MK KING
November 15th, 2005, 10:42 PM
Jewish girls are HOTTTT!!!!!

Oye VeeeeeY!!!!

show me a jewish grl thas hot & i'll think bout it.

2pakaveli
November 15th, 2005, 10:42 PM
well thats their problem, but its not allowed in the religion.
you chat the living shit in every thread. Lol u think you know everything haha plz in future, do a little research b4 posting here it will make less people think your a retard. Muslims are allowed 2 marry a christian or a jew because they believe in 1 god, but it is frowned upon. You cannot marry a Hindu becuase they believe in more den 1 god...sheeet u spastic :mad:

superblade
November 15th, 2005, 10:43 PM
show me a jewish grl thas hot & i'll think bout it.


She's hot!!!!!!!

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a241/bladesuper/yXvGir2jCsJitWuxLHUwlleUJBOm.jpg

ezbreezyfresh
November 15th, 2005, 10:43 PM
ru serious?? ^^^ :neutral:

lol yes i am...have u not heard of hindus and msulims dating eachother?? it's more common than u think...

Rishi_TEX
November 15th, 2005, 10:44 PM
NO. The question is, WTF are you doing in this thread?? Did you mis read the part where the thread maker states 'to MUSLIMS only'?

Lock the door on your way out.


there r others here who r non muslim so :waveyFin:

arbigooner
November 15th, 2005, 10:45 PM
kids can choose whichever religion they feel likethat ridiculous. so the parents will just watch their kids grow into whatever they like. its possible if both the parents are atheists.

you see, that IS the whole problem. If its a practicing Muslim and a practicing Jew, they can never marry because they will never be able to make it work.

Rishi_TEX
November 15th, 2005, 10:46 PM
lol yes i am...have u not heard of hindus and msulims dating eachother?? it's more common than u think...


ya i wonder why

The Anti Desi
November 15th, 2005, 10:46 PM
:yes:
Not even close :no:

Aztirno
November 15th, 2005, 10:46 PM
=[
my guy is a 3/4 jew actually but doesn practice.. actually he converted n follows hinduism.. but not relaly only spiritual-wise.
so.. its like.. twice as bad for me..? not only is his family from israel but when he converts he chose hinduism?

yup.

my mom wud have a mental breakdown n get committed

yoo man..this girl scaress me like crazy.

ezbreezyfresh
November 15th, 2005, 10:46 PM
ya i wonder why

id tell u but it's not appropriate in this thread... :p

ezbreezyfresh
November 15th, 2005, 10:47 PM
Not even close :no:

seriously she reminds me so sabrina liek alottt..they are soo similar...lol

El_Diablo
November 15th, 2005, 10:47 PM
show me a jewish grl thas hot & i'll think bout it.
http://novella2000.corriere.it/archive/images/jem_500-thumb.jpg

http://1.im.cz/super/img/photo/00/59/46-article_v.jpg

Rishi_TEX
November 15th, 2005, 10:48 PM
id tell u but it's not appropriate in this thread... :p


no i mean, when they kno ....there is NO final destination....then i dont get why do they do it? unless ur willin to sacrifice/malign ur culture/family for some guy u met few months ago...

The Anti Desi
November 15th, 2005, 10:49 PM
seriously she reminds me so sabrina liek alottt..they are soo similar...lol
Bellefemme is an innocent mind who is still learning about her faith, while she is also very confident on her beliefs.

Muslima is very belligerent to those who challenge her, and she constantly resorts to flame.

El_Diablo
November 15th, 2005, 10:50 PM
there r others here who r non muslim so :waveyFin:
Others dont have a cock stuck up their arse like you...

And there was a reason why i told you to lock the door, so your skank ass cant re-enter.

Aztirno
November 15th, 2005, 10:50 PM
Dating someone of a diff religion is alrite as long as you dont get too close cuz you kno..if you get all too close with each other and finally wanna 'be' with him/her and your parents disagree (heavely disagree in most of the cases), then you're gonna have make a choice; either break their heart or have yours broken..and imma guy but i personally dont think i cud ever see my parents that disappointed for not listening to them on something this major...and i aint having my heart break either.. soo go do watcha gotta do.. chill out, have fun, but dont get any high hopes.

bellefemme
November 15th, 2005, 10:51 PM
id tell u but it's not appropriate in this thread... :p
yea dont say it, or else these bozo's will start making fun of u, and give some weird logics. But plz answer this, what are some weird things u find abt islam? did u try to understand, why they like that?

Rishi_TEX
November 15th, 2005, 10:52 PM
Others dont have a cock stuck up their arse like you...

And there was a reason why i told you to lock the door, so your skank ass cant re-enter.


why dont u lick my arse n find out...u ugly midget....

350z
November 15th, 2005, 10:52 PM
lol yes i am...have u not heard of hindus and msulims dating eachother?? it's more common than u think...

both of you are going to HELL! :no:










































:p :p :p

superblade
November 15th, 2005, 10:52 PM
Marry a buddhist person...............and make fat babies.

The Anti Desi
November 15th, 2005, 10:53 PM
that ridiculous. so the parents will just watch their kids grow into whatever they like. its possible if both the parents are atheists.

you see, that IS the whole problem. If its a practicing Muslim and a practicing Jew, they can never marry because they will never be able to make it work.
That is exactly the case....there is only so much you can make the kids believe, and then you have to let them go. If parents are practicin strictly on different faiths, how can they possibly think of marriage???

And if kids have parents of two different faiths, then kids have two options rather than blindly following one.

superblade
November 15th, 2005, 10:54 PM
why dont u lick my arse n find out...u ugly midget....

You're into getting your salad tossed?

Jam or Jelly?

Rishi_TEX
November 15th, 2005, 10:54 PM
yea dont say it, or else these bozo's will start making fun of u, and give some weird logics. But plz answer this, what are some weird things u find abt islam? did u try to understand, why they like that?


ru tryin to convert her?

El_Diablo
November 15th, 2005, 10:54 PM
why dont u lick my arse n find out...u ugly midget....
Its not possible coz your fat bitch of a mother left nothing behind.

:p

ezbreezyfresh
November 15th, 2005, 10:54 PM
no i mean, when they kno ....there is NO final destination....then i dont get why do they do it? unless ur willin to sacrifice/malign ur culture/family for some guy u met few months ago...

hmm ur right..but i don't really think it's wrong to be with someone u care for and love even if there's no future.....memories of a few days/months/years with someone u truly loved will last forver and it doesnt matter if ur with them or not and as long as their happy and well ..and ofcorse u can love more than once...lol ok i think i took this too far.....

Riddemz
November 15th, 2005, 10:55 PM
you chat the living shit in every thread. Lol u think you know everything haha plz in future, do a little research b4 posting here it will make less people think your a retard. Muslims are allowed 2 marry a christian or a jew because they believe in 1 god, but it is frowned upon. You cannot marry a Hindu becuase they believe in more den 1 god...sheeet u spastic :mad:
hindus believe in 1 god but this one god is presented in different "gods"

and you were telling her that she didnt know everything? :)




yes i would marry a jewish girl and i would go jihad on her in bed ;)

350z
November 15th, 2005, 10:56 PM
http://1.im.cz/super/img/photo/00/59/46-article_v.jpg

she's jewish? WTF? i never knew that

Rishi_TEX
November 15th, 2005, 10:56 PM
Its not possible coz your fat bitch of a mother left nothing behind.

:p


just coz u suck ur mommas dick doesnt mean every1s like that...fukin raghead sisterfucker...suck osamas balls....fuckin deformed leprecaun

bellefemme
November 15th, 2005, 10:56 PM
you chat the living shit in every thread. Lol u think you know everything haha plz in future, do a little research b4 posting here it will make less people think your a retard. Muslims are allowed 2 marry a christian or a jew because they believe in 1 god, but it is frowned upon. You cannot marry a Hindu becuase they believe in more den 1 god...sheeet u spastic :mad:
HAHAA, nice to know u follow me around the site, and see all the comments that I make, how cute, I gotta a stalker. But ur right maybe I dont how the whole differ religion marriages work, plz varify where u found it and also, plz tell me how they should raise their kids, "what religion" b/c a person cant follow 2 religion.

Enammmmm
November 15th, 2005, 10:57 PM
will you parents accept it? will you get kicked out of the family? Family's honor will be gone?


According to the Islam, the men are allowed to marry outside the religion in hoping to convert the woman to Islam.

I know my parents wouldnt mind, cuz thats what I would like for my wife to be Muslim... she doesnt HAVE to convert but if she loves me she would... but then again I have to respect her ways as well.. not to mention Jews and Muslims have basically the same BELIEFS.

350z
November 15th, 2005, 10:57 PM
just coz u suck ur mommas dick doesnt mean every1s like that...fukin raghead sisterfucker...suck osamas balls....fuckin deformed leprecaun

you and Diablo can start a thread on uselss junk and argue like a married couple but keep it out of this thread.

GT & MK KING
November 15th, 2005, 10:59 PM
She's hot!!!!!!!

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a241/bladesuper/yXvGir2jCsJitWuxLHUwlleUJBOm.jpg

:Puke:

superblade
November 15th, 2005, 10:59 PM
"What??? Marry a Jew??? I would not suck on a jewish titty if my moms ran out of Similac"

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a241/bladesuper/14.jpg

GT & MK KING
November 15th, 2005, 11:00 PM
http://novella2000.corriere.it/archive/images/jem_500-thumb.jpg

http://1.im.cz/super/img/photo/00/59/46-article_v.jpg

the first one :sarb:

aniston is greek not jewish :slap:

ezbreezyfresh
November 15th, 2005, 11:00 PM
yea dont say it, or else these bozo's will start making fun of u, and give some weird logics. But plz answer this, what are some weird things u find abt islam? did u try to understand, why they like that?

hmm basically im not religious and i hardly practice my own religion and don't get me wrong ..i have nothing against ur religion but in any religion that u get into requires u to pray and all and im really not into any of that...and i guess it's also a bit overwhelming and then i dont want to dissappoint my family by taking such a bold step...

El_Diablo
November 15th, 2005, 11:00 PM
just coz u suck ur mommas dick doesnt mean every1s like that...fukin raghead sisterfucker...suck osamas balls....fuckin deformed leprecaun
:rofl:.. somebody is a lil wound up?? Did you let this lil no good muslim get under your skin?? Not very clever are you my hindu compatriot?

You know, I dnt think its possible for you to be electronically insulted any further so i shall leave it there. Reflect son, on what just happened.

:wavey:

bellefemme
November 15th, 2005, 11:00 PM
ru tryin to convert her?
Did mension anythign like that, I just want to know how much she knows abt islam.

GT & MK KING
November 15th, 2005, 11:00 PM
"What??? Marry a Jew??? I would not suck on a jewish titty if my moms ran out of Similac"

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a241/bladesuper/14.jpg

awww a baby hitler. now thas cute

Rishi_TEX
November 15th, 2005, 11:01 PM
she's jewish? WTF? i never knew that


i thought she recently converted to buddhism..... n i dont think shes a jew


natalie portman is

n sarah jessica parker

El_Diablo
November 15th, 2005, 11:01 PM
the first one :sarb:

aniston is greek not jewish :slap:
Jemima Goldsmith/Khan/fuck knows.

Jennifer Aniston is jewish mate, Being Greek has nothing to do with religion.

ezbreezyfresh
November 15th, 2005, 11:01 PM
both of you are going to HELL! :no:






:p :p :p

:hand: as long as ur a good person it doesnt matter what religion u follow , good things happen to u...

Riddemz
November 15th, 2005, 11:02 PM
the first one :sarb:

aniston is greek not jewish :slap:

greeks can be jewish too genius

The Anti Desi
November 15th, 2005, 11:02 PM
"What??? Marry a Jew??? I would not suck on a jewish titty if my moms ran out of Similac"

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a241/bladesuper/14.jpg
Abortion???? :|

Rishi_TEX
November 15th, 2005, 11:03 PM
Did mension anythign like that, I just want to know how much she knows abt islam.


*mention

& i gotcha

ezbreezyfresh
November 15th, 2005, 11:03 PM
greeks can be jewish too genius

AHAHAH :werd:

superblade
November 15th, 2005, 11:03 PM
Abortion???? :|

Murderer!!!!!

bellefemme
November 15th, 2005, 11:03 PM
:hand: as long as ur a good person it doesnt matter what religion u follow , good things happen to u...
good point, but do u believe in after life, the eternity?

ezbreezyfresh
November 15th, 2005, 11:04 PM
good point, but do u believe in after life, the eternity?

uh i dunno... :neutral:

Rishi_TEX
November 15th, 2005, 11:06 PM
its called re-incarnation: Hinduism teaches something rather different. Hindus believe time is cyclical. This means they believe people do not live and die just once but are able to be reborn a number of times before reaching their final end state

christians belief: The Christian belief in an afterlife is based on a linear view of time. This means Christians believe each person will live on this earth once and after that go to be judged by God

2pakaveli
November 15th, 2005, 11:06 PM
what would happen if i married a jewish person? My wife would probably be a jew

The Anti Desi
November 15th, 2005, 11:08 PM
what would happen if i married a jewish person? My wife would probably be a jew
Its legal in Islam......are you a practicin Muslim???

ezbreezyfresh
November 15th, 2005, 11:08 PM
its called re-incarnation: Hinduism teaches something rather different. Hindus believe time is cyclical. This means they believe people do not live and die just once but are able to be reborn a number of times before reaching their final end state
christians belief: The Christian belief in an afterlife is based on a linear view of time. This means Christians believe each person will live on this earth once and after that go to be judged by God

i sorta believe in that...

Enammmmm
November 15th, 2005, 11:08 PM
According to the law, u cant marry a nonmuslim, they must convert, no matter what. I know this bangali guy married a Isreali jewish girl, after she converted islam, they are married for abt 26 or 27 years. They happily married, and their daughter married a Lebanonise muslim guy.
I think that my family will be dissapointed but they are not gonna disown me, my husband will still be a muslim, but I would still prefer a desi (bangali) guy. Its easier for me to communicate.


Not true, in the Quran, the part I have read myself, explains that you are allowed to marry, only if you are a male to marry a woman, only if you put full effort into teaching ur wife all about Islam and helping her to convert.

ezbreezyfresh
November 15th, 2005, 11:09 PM
Not true, in the Quran, the part I have read myself, explains that you are allowed to marry, only if you are a male to marry a woman, only if you put full effort into teaching ur wife all about Islam and helping her to convert.

that's sexist..

Enammmmm
November 15th, 2005, 11:15 PM
that's sexist..

you may say so, but there are certain laws as well that follow it such as, we are not allowed to go sleep with other women.

and as far as i know the main reason its only allowable for men is because its the Man thats seeking the relationship or the Woman's parents... not the Woman herself.

The Anti Desi
November 15th, 2005, 11:15 PM
Not true, in the Quran, the part I have read myself, explains that you are allowed to marry, only if you are a male to marry a woman, only if you put full effort into teaching ur wife all about Islam and helping her to convert.
While the Quran mentions that Jewish women are lawful for Muslim men, it never restricted Muslim women from marrying non-Muslim men.

arbigooner
November 15th, 2005, 11:15 PM
The simple fact is, would you allow a Jew to break up your family and create a rift with your parents? No way. No Jew is worth it.

superblade
November 15th, 2005, 11:16 PM
I belong to the group Jews for Jesus, we actually encourage the intermarriage between Jews and Christians...............

The Anti Desi
November 15th, 2005, 11:18 PM
I belong to the group Jews for Jesus, we actually encourage the intermarriage between Jews and Christians...............
Are these practicin Jews and Christians...or simply by name???

Rishi_TEX
November 15th, 2005, 11:18 PM
i sorta believe in that...

u heard of those children who were able to tell abt ur previous lives, where they used to stay...... n then after few yrs they died...... i someone like that who had a kid...who told them abt his previous family...its shocking

superblade
November 15th, 2005, 11:20 PM
According to my Jewish faith, on the day of Melicah Balem...all us Jews will arise from their graves and dance......

wouldn't it be great if we all can do the Jewish dance of Melicah Balem together.........

logiciskey
November 15th, 2005, 11:20 PM
What I have seen countless times is other people of other religions give into Islam. One of my best friends was Hindu who was with another one of my friends who was Muslim. I helped him convert to Islam. I nor my friend pressured him at the begining extremely skeptical but over time... Now I plan on teaching him further by taking him to Friday praryers. Take it nice and slow.... (Btw hes been with her for 3 yrs and they plan on gettin married)

superblade
November 15th, 2005, 11:22 PM
Are these practicin Jews and Christians...or simply by name???

We are practicing Jews and Christians

You can google "Jews for jesus" if you like...........

Lust Buster
November 15th, 2005, 11:23 PM
No dating beyond a platonic relationship is allowed.excellently put

lol dude u would'nt understand.....my bf's muslim and im hindu..i love him very much but im not sure if i want to convert because i simply don't agree with most of what islamic beliefs and customs...so therefore no conversion=no future...now that makes me sad... :(What a wimp. You'd sacrifice your faith for a lover. Romance is worthless. God is everything.

arbigooner
November 15th, 2005, 11:23 PM
According to my Jewish faith, on the day of Melicah Balem...all us Jews will arise from their graves and dance.....
are you serious? :rofl:

Enammmmm
November 15th, 2005, 11:24 PM
While the Quran mentions that Jewish women are lawful for Muslim men, it never restricted Muslim women from marrying non-Muslim men.

The Quran allows only MEN to marry out of the religion, so obviously the MUSLIM WOMEN are restricted from marrying MEN from other religions.

MY opinion to make it more sensible would be, Most WOMEN are more understanding than Most MEN.. so therefor they would convert. Men wouldnt.

superblade
November 15th, 2005, 11:26 PM
The number one reason to marry a Jewish girl:

They love it in the ass.



Plus, Desi girls dont shave their cooch, so its like Crocodile Dundee in the wild outback..............

superblade
November 15th, 2005, 11:27 PM
are you serious? :rofl:


Yes, and we dance to kosher hip hop..........


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a241/bladesuper/jjcover121004new.jpg

Rishi_TEX
November 15th, 2005, 11:27 PM
What I have seen countless times is other people of other religions give into Islam. One of my best friends was Hindu who was with another one of my friends who was Muslim. I helped him convert to Islam. I nor my friend pressured him at the begining extremely skeptical but over time... Now I plan on teaching him further by taking him to Friday praryers. Take it nice and slow.... (Btw hes been with her for 3 yrs and they plan on gettin married)


One of my best friends was Muslim who was with another one of my friends who was Hindu. I helped him convert to Hindu. I nor my friend pressured him at the begining extremely skeptical but over time... Now I plan on teaching him further by taking him to sunday prayers. Take it nice and slow.... (Btw hes been with her for 3 yrs and they plan on gettin married)

logiciskey
November 15th, 2005, 11:29 PM
One of my best friends was Muslim who was with another one of my friends who was Hindu. I helped him convert to Hindu. I nor my friend pressured him at the begining extremely skeptical but over time... Now I plan on teaching him further by taking him to sunday prayers. Take it nice and slow.... (Btw hes been with her for 3 yrs and they plan on gettin married)

LOL ur so predictable... I knew ud say something like this :p
Keep at it its very entertaining...

Rishi_TEX
November 15th, 2005, 11:31 PM
LOL ur so predictable... I knew ud say something like this :p
Keep at it its very entertaining...


i knoooo....i was following uuuuu :p

superblade
November 15th, 2005, 11:32 PM
As a Jew, I love studying you Desis....you are all so peaceful and brown

The Anti Desi
November 15th, 2005, 11:32 PM
One of my best friends was Muslim who was with another one of my friends who was Hindu. I helped him convert to Hindu. I nor my friend pressured him at the begining extremely skeptical but over time... Now I plan on teaching him further by taking him to sunday prayers. Take it nice and slow.... (Btw hes been with her for 3 yrs and they plan on gettin married)
:lollol:

bellefemme
November 15th, 2005, 11:33 PM
u confused me there, wat good deeds u talkin bout??
staying out sins, giving charity, making prayer for others, etc. deeds that most religious people make.

superblade
November 15th, 2005, 11:33 PM
Moishe Alf, was Catholic and convcerted to Judaism when meeting his wife...........


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a241/bladesuper/NzwEqCmBj5NVIVpXqdFsk3GNNTHa.gif

The Anti Desi
November 15th, 2005, 11:34 PM
The Quran allows only MEN to marry out of the religion, so obviously the MUSLIM WOMEN are restricted from marrying MEN from other religions.

MY opinion to make it more sensible would be, Most WOMEN are more understanding than Most MEN.. so therefor they would convert. Men wouldnt.
One question I have.....

3:199 And there are, certainly, among the People of the Book, those who believe in Allah, in the revelation to you, and in the revelation to them, bowing in humility to Allah. They will not sell the Signs of Allah for a miserable gain! For them is a reward with their Lord, and Allah is swift in account.

In other words, there are certain People of the Book that believe in Allah.....thus making them believers????

Rishi_TEX
November 15th, 2005, 11:35 PM
Moishe Alf, was Catholic and convcerted to Judaism when meeting his wife...........


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a241/bladesuper/NzwEqCmBj5NVIVpXqdFsk3GNNTHa.gif


^^^ YOU NEED VAGISIL :mad:

Ur Dream Boy
November 15th, 2005, 11:35 PM
no. parents wont accept it, will kill me. but jewish gurlz r super hot man. i would marry 1 if i ever got a chance.

sky_
November 15th, 2005, 11:36 PM
will you parents accept it? will you get kicked out of the family? Family's honor will be gone?

In Our Family we Can Marry Christians and Jewish

as there are Religions of the Book
and cos I'm Male The women wont have to Convert

But if it was the other way Round If it was A Muslim Girl wanting to marry some1 from that Religion Then they Guy would have to Convert To Islam

bellefemme
November 15th, 2005, 11:36 PM
The Quran allows only MEN to marry out of the religion, so obviously the MUSLIM WOMEN are restricted from marrying MEN from other religions.

MY opinion to make it more sensible would be, Most WOMEN are more understanding than Most MEN.. so therefor they would convert. Men wouldnt.
u guys dont understand, marrying out of other religion doesnt mean, The partner can follow his or her own religion. Both needs to be a muslim.

bellefemme
November 15th, 2005, 11:38 PM
U guys need to be careful abt, where u getting ur informations from. Because jews have made islamic websites, with false informations, to trick people. So know ur sources and informations carefully.

superblade
November 15th, 2005, 11:38 PM
^^^ YOU NEED VAGISIL :mad:

You need Monotheism......



(oh shit, i said it....word to yo mama!)



http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a241/bladesuper/XaCtbAT915lHYVDuQSSHXSatlFRt.gif


And dont fuck with Heysuse!

(that was random, I know....)

Lust Buster
November 15th, 2005, 11:39 PM
u guys dont understand, marrying out of other religion doesnt mean, The partner can follow his or her own religion. Both needs to be a muslim.That's one thing awesome about Islam. It doesn't take crap from romance.

Enammmmm
November 15th, 2005, 11:40 PM
u guys dont understand, marrying out of other religion doesnt mean, The partner can follow his or her own religion. Both needs to be a muslim.

Ok, I will try my best to find u the verse/sura from the Quran as soon as possible.. just dont hold ur breath....I'll go in to the Quran myself and scan it just for you :)

But I agree with both needing to be muslim....only way a marriage will work, Happily.

superblade
November 15th, 2005, 11:40 PM
During the Jewish holiday of Halithum, we often take off our shoes and run around the streets-screaming praises for whole wheat bread...........

Enammmmm
November 15th, 2005, 11:40 PM
U guys need to be careful abt, where u getting ur informations from. Because jews have made islamic websites, with false informations, to trick people. So know ur sources and informations carefully.

VERY TRUE! thats why PLEASE :Pray: dont google to learn more about Islam, just go to www.askimam.com , they have links there to learn more about Islam.

The Anti Desi
November 15th, 2005, 11:41 PM
U guys need to be careful abt, where u getting ur informations from. Because jews have made islamic websites, with false informations, to trick people. So know ur sources and informations carefully.
Thats why I go to the Quran.

The Anti Desi
November 15th, 2005, 11:41 PM
That's one thing awesome about Islam. It doesn't take crap from romance.
:lollol:

Enammmmm
November 15th, 2005, 11:42 PM
Thats why I go to the Quran.

You are Shi'te? or Ismaili...? sorry I forgot, i know u told me once.

superblade
November 15th, 2005, 11:42 PM
My favorite holiday is Taubianah, where we knit little holster-type thing to cover our dradles with.

sky_
November 15th, 2005, 11:42 PM
The Quran allows only MEN to marry out of the religion, so obviously the MUSLIM WOMEN are restricted from marrying MEN from other religions..


That is True
atleast someone on here Knows about this too

bellefemme
November 15th, 2005, 11:42 PM
excellently put

What a wimp. You'd sacrifice your faith for a lover. Romance is worthless. God is everything.
I agree with u. Ur even suppose to give-up ur family if u have to for ur faith.

bellefemme
November 15th, 2005, 11:43 PM
Thats why I go to the Quran.
wow, nice to know u go to the quran abt information, and u dont see these kinds of informations clearly.

Enammmmm
November 15th, 2005, 11:44 PM
That is True
atleast someone on here Knows about this too


:shakes hand: how are u man?

Lust Buster
November 15th, 2005, 11:44 PM
You are Shi'te? or Ismaili...? sorry I forgot, i know u told me once.He's nothing. We don't believe in sects. We're Muslims, and there is only one type of Muslim.

sky_
November 15th, 2005, 11:45 PM
:shakes hand: how are u man?

Im fine thanks Bro

same old shit
I was Going to lie and say something Interesting
but cudnt be bothered
you know how it is

lol

ezbreezyfresh
November 15th, 2005, 11:45 PM
excellently put

What a wimp. You'd sacrifice your faith for a lover. Romance is worthless. God is everything.

lol dude!!! that's what i said..i would'nt... :rolleyes:

Lust Buster
November 15th, 2005, 11:45 PM
I agree with u. Ur even suppose to give-up ur family if u have to for ur faith.exactly

I love and respect God more than anything.

Enammmmm
November 15th, 2005, 11:46 PM
He's nothing. We don't believe in sects. We're Muslims, and there is only one type of Muslim.

I agree but unfortunately there are divisions :no: but I think he told me he is something else before...

But I am sunni... and since there divisions among Islam, unfortunately, I will keep representing myself as such.

XxXanamikaXxX
November 15th, 2005, 11:46 PM
Its legal to marry a Christian or Jew, provided they believe in God. No need to change religion.

:no: wrong!

The Anti Desi
November 15th, 2005, 11:47 PM
You are Shi'te? or Ismaili...? sorry I forgot, i know u told me once.
Um................no!!! :ugh2:

ezbreezyfresh
November 15th, 2005, 11:47 PM
u heard of those children who were able to tell abt ur previous lives, where they used to stay...... n then after few yrs they died...... i someone like that who had a kid...who told them abt his previous family...its shocking

ya i've eheard of stories like that..it's quite interesting..

bellefemme
November 15th, 2005, 11:47 PM
This thread aint about the legality of marriage concerning people of the book. Its about the reprecussions of marrying a jew. Now get a fuckin grip n let the alter ego slip.
Dude ur a muslim urself, and ur cussin at ur fellow muslima, what kind of beliefs do u have? atleast I am trying to use some logic and knowledge to advice ppl, and look what ur doing, trying to hold me back.

Enammmmm
November 15th, 2005, 11:47 PM
Im fine thanks Bro

same old shit
I was Going to lie and say something Interesting
but cudnt be bothered
you know how it is

lol

:lol: i know right, same ol shit here too man... rd keeps us moving :dance3:





:no: :rofl:

Rishi_TEX
November 15th, 2005, 11:48 PM
I agree with u. Ur even suppose to give-up ur family if u have to for ur faith.


^^^ :rofl: RU SERIOUS??? holy shit....ur scaring me now.... i think ur slowly progressing towards extremism

Enammmmm
November 15th, 2005, 11:48 PM
Um................no!!! :ugh2:


Okay? ur sunni then?????????? :ugh2:


im getting old man, bad memory forgive me :Pray:

Lust Buster
November 15th, 2005, 11:48 PM
lol dude!!! that's what i said..i would'nt... :rolleyes:I know what you said. I read it the first time. I'm saying that you're weakling because of it.

bellefemme
November 15th, 2005, 11:48 PM
exactly

I love and respect God more than anything.
aww I love u so much, who ever u are, ur talking my language.

The Anti Desi
November 15th, 2005, 11:50 PM
Okay? ur sunni then?????????? :ugh2:


im getting old man, bad memory forgive me :Pray:
No I am not Sunni either.

I follow Quran and Quran only.

The Anti Desi
November 15th, 2005, 11:51 PM
^^^ :rofl: RU SERIOUS??? holy shit....ur scaring me now.... i think ur slowly progressing towards extremism
My parents are scared of me....they think I am too strict. :|

Enammmmm
November 15th, 2005, 11:51 PM
^^^ :rofl: RU SERIOUS??? holy shit....ur scaring me now.... i think ur slowly progressing towards extremism


I am taking that u havent heard the story about Abraham (pbuh) slaughtering his son because GOD (Allah) asked him too?....

She's right.

ezbreezyfresh
November 15th, 2005, 11:52 PM
I know what you said. I read it the first time. I'm saying that you're weakling because of it.

because i wont convert to something i dont believe in??okay buddy!!:ugh:

Rishi_TEX
November 15th, 2005, 11:52 PM
aww I love u so much, who ever u are, ur talking my language.

wait wait...so ur sayin....u wud give up ur parents/siblings/husband/children...if one of ur imams tell u to jump off the bridge in the name of islam?? u wud DO IT??? w/o thinkin of ur family???? u wud think abt ur god 1st??? RU CRAZZYYY??

Enammmmm
November 15th, 2005, 11:52 PM
No I am not Sunni either.

I follow Quran and Quran only.

ah man... what are you?

There is no JUST MUSLIM anymore, unfortunately!

Rishi_TEX
November 15th, 2005, 11:53 PM
My parents are scared of me....they think I am too strict. :|


HAHAH no wayyy YOU???

XxXanamikaXxX
November 15th, 2005, 11:54 PM
I agree with u. Ur even suppose to give-up ur family if u have to for ur faith.

:scratch: if ur a muslim or a hindu or a jew, why would you give up your muslim, hindu or jewish family for.. err faith? :neutral:
I think you meant to say, you are supposed to follow your faith, and have to give up your bf (if not from the same religion) :neutral:

Rishi_TEX
November 15th, 2005, 11:54 PM
I am taking that u havent heard the story about Abraham (pbuh) slaughtering his son because GOD (Allah) asked him too?....

She's right.


so ur sayin.... if god comes down to u in ur dreams n tell u to strangle ur wife...u wud??? in the name god??? holy shit

ezbreezyfresh
November 15th, 2005, 11:55 PM
wait wait...so ur sayin....u wud give up ur parents/siblings/husband/children...if one of ur imams tell u to jump off the bridge in the name of islam?? u wud DO IT??? w/o thinkin of ur family???? u wud think abt ur god 1st??? RU CRAZZYYY??

lol dude...let her be..beliefs differ from person to person...

Rishi_TEX
November 15th, 2005, 11:56 PM
lol dude...let her be..beliefs differ from person to person...


thats freakin scary....seriously..... ppl w/ this kinda mentality r very easy to get brainwashed by ppl who use religion to kill others

The Anti Desi
November 15th, 2005, 11:56 PM
ah man... what are you?

There is no JUST MUSLIM anymore, unfortunately!
Quran only. I affiliate with no sect.

Enammmmm
November 15th, 2005, 11:57 PM
so ur sayin.... if god comes down to u in ur dreams n tell u to strangle ur wife...u wud??? in the name god??? holy shit

If HE asked me to kill myself , I would and anything else that follows.

Yes man.. there are people like that in this world... no you are not going krazy, its the truth, and it has been since TIME started.

Enammmmm
November 15th, 2005, 11:58 PM
thats freakin scary....seriously..... ppl w/ this kinda mentality r very easy to get brainwashed by ppl who use religion to kill others

you need to relax man... first of all this thread is referring to MUSLIMS... read it again if it helps... no use to cause a flame/outburst like cricizing and hating on someones beliefs.

Enammmmm
November 15th, 2005, 11:59 PM
Quran only. I affiliate with no sect.

so you do believe that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was the last prophet and the messenger of Allah?

Lust Buster
November 15th, 2005, 11:59 PM
I agree but unfortunately there are divisions :no: but I think he told me he is something else before...

But I am sunni... and since there divisions among Islam, unfortunately, I will keep representing myself as such.I'm ex-Sunni. I was born into a Sunni family. When I realized how meaningless it was, I abandoned all sects and followed(or at least attempted to) the Quran and the Quran only from then on. I thank AntiDesi greatly for opening my eyes. He made me aware that the 5 pillars, sunnahs, hadiths, etc. weren't in the Quran. But don't get it twisted, yo. He didn't make me abandon sects among Muslims. I chose to. He just told me about it and how it violated the Quran. What AntiDesi told me was the truth, and the truth was so obvious that I had to believe it. And you can also count on AntiDesi to provide you with metal...:rockon:

Enammmmm
November 16th, 2005, 12:00 AM
I'm ex-Sunni. I was born into a Sunni family. When I realized how meaningless it was, I abandoned all sects and followed(or at least attempted to) the Quran and the Quran only from then on. I thank AntiDesi greatly for opening my eyes. He made me aware that the 5 pillars, sunnahs, hadiths, etc. weren't in the Quran. But don't get it twisted, yo. He didn't make me abandon sects among Muslims. I chose to. He just told me about it and how it violated the Quran. What AntiDesi told me was the truth, and the truth was so obvious that I had to believe it. And you can also count on AntiDesi to provide you with metal...:rockon:


:rofl: ok dude.

Rishi_TEX
November 16th, 2005, 12:00 AM
If HE asked me to kill myself , I would and anything else that follows.

Yes man.. there are people like that in this world... no you are not going krazy, its the truth, and it has been since TIME started.

so u wud kill other ppl if god told u.............wat if i made u hypnotize and start playing a cassette w/ deep voice sayin....go killl bunch of women n children over n over again....n when u wake up...u wud hear the same voice n think its god, so u wud actually do it???? wow

The Anti Desi
November 16th, 2005, 12:01 AM
I am taking that u havent heard the story about Abraham (pbuh) slaughtering his son because GOD (Allah) asked him too?....

She's right.
Abraham never slaughtered his son. It was only a vision, and Allah stopped it from occuring. It was a test on Abraham.

Enammmmm
November 16th, 2005, 12:01 AM
so u wud kill other ppl if god told u.............wat if i made u hypnotize and start playing a cassette w/ deep voice sayin....go killl bunch of women n children over n over again....n when u wake up...u wud hear the same voice n think its god, so u wud actually do it???? wow


u can try it and i can guarantee you it wouldnt work.

MolviCorleone
November 16th, 2005, 12:01 AM
my mum would mostly go ape, thats becuase the society shes in (the women, the talk, you know how it is). But i think deep down if the girl was very pretty it would be ok.

BUT they say islamically a man can marry a jewish or christian girl since they follow the book of god. BUT saying that times have changed, liiving in the weat i would never marry a jewish girl becuase its very likely if we had children and then got divorced the children would drink.

worse if you marry a christian, they eat pork too.




but hey i wouldnt marry a jewish girl or a christian girl.

i dont even beleive in all that "love" crap.

your meant to love the person you marry, for the sake of Allah(since all created her) not marry the person you love.

Enammmmm
November 16th, 2005, 12:01 AM
Abraham never slaughtered his son. It was only a vision, and Allah stopped it from occuring. It was a test on Abraham.


I know brother.. I didnt finish it to see if he even knew about it.. since almost everyone knows the whole story.

MolviCorleone
November 16th, 2005, 12:04 AM
so u wud kill other ppl if god told u.............wat if i made u hypnotize and start playing a cassette w/ deep voice sayin....go killl bunch of women n children over n over again....n when u wake up...u wud hear the same voice n think its god, so u wud actually do it???? wow



suprise suprise

wherever you go in these forums you always bring the same crap.

i dont know what your arguing about this time, but only an idiot would listen to a tape and think its god.

i know you would though.

adren@line
November 16th, 2005, 12:04 AM
Id marry a Jew.


Then id have a strong HinJew son who would go around and beat up Muslims.

:p

Enammmmm
November 16th, 2005, 12:05 AM
suprise suprise

wherever you go in these forums you always bring the same crap.

i dont know what your arguing about this time, but only an idiot would listen to a tape and think its god.

i know you would though.


I believe he has been trying to start a flame... especially starting on a female this time.... how low.

Rishi_TEX
November 16th, 2005, 12:05 AM
suprise suprise

wherever you go in these forums you always bring the same crap.

i dont know what your arguing about this time, but only an idiot would listen to a tape and think its god.

i know you would though.


i dont blow up ppl...u wud

Enammmmm
November 16th, 2005, 12:05 AM
Id marry a Jew.


Then id have a strong HinJew son who would go around and beat up Muslims.

:p


:hahano:


u simply show how weak everyone else is who wants to win against the MUSLIMS.

The Anti Desi
November 16th, 2005, 12:06 AM
my mum would mostly go ape, thats becuase the society shes in (the women, the talk, you know how it is). But i think deep down if the girl was very pretty it would be ok.

BUT they say islamically a man can marry a jewish or christian girl since they follow the book of god. BUT saying that times have changed, liiving in the weat i would never marry a jewish girl becuase its very likely if we had children and then got divorced the children would drink.

worse if you marry a christian, they eat pork too.




but hey i wouldnt marry a jewish girl or a christian girl.

i dont even beleive in all that "love" crap.

your meant to love the person you marry, for the sake of Allah(since all created her) not marry the person you love.
Supposedly there is a prohibition in the Bible from eating pork....don't know where though.

Times have changed, but has Christianity/Judaism changed??? The Christians/Jew may have abandoned many teachings....that does not mean all Christians/Jews have.

reaz
November 16th, 2005, 12:06 AM
Id marry a Jew.


Then id have a strong HinJew son who would go around and beat up Muslims.

:p

I thought you were strong enough. LOL.

Rishi_TEX
November 16th, 2005, 12:06 AM
I believe he has been trying to start a flame... especially starting on a female this time.... how low.


dude ur the one whose talkin bout killin ppl if god tells u to...thas fukin scary

The Anti Desi
November 16th, 2005, 12:07 AM
:rofl: ok dude.
Same here....ex-Sunni.

I follow Quran and Quran only.

Enammmmm
November 16th, 2005, 12:08 AM
Supposedly there is a prohibition in the Bible from eating pork....don't know where though.

Times have changed, but has Christianity/Judaism changed??? The Christians/Jew may have abandoned many teachings....that does not mean all Christians/Jews have.


YES! and the BIBLE also speaks of a noble man coming up to be very powerful and lead the right path from the Arabian Peninsula. :sarb:

Enammmmm
November 16th, 2005, 12:09 AM
dude ur the one whose talkin bout killin ppl if god tells u to...thas fukin scary

you are a fuckin dumbass, DO U THINK GOD WILL TELL YOU TO KILL PEOPLE!

WHAT AN IMBISHOL!(imbecile) :ugh2:

Enammmmm
November 16th, 2005, 12:09 AM
Same here....ex-Sunni.

I follow Quran and Quran only.


Hmm interesting, seems like I gotta take a peek at ur info after all to see ur pros and cons.

The Anti Desi
November 16th, 2005, 12:09 AM
YES! and the BIBLE also speaks of a noble man coming up to be very powerful and lead the right path from the Arabian Peninsula. :sarb:
And ur point being??? :sarb:

Lust Buster
November 16th, 2005, 12:09 AM
aww I love u so much, who ever u are, ur talking my language.why thank you

because i wont convert to something i dont believe in??okay buddy!!:ugh:I'm saying weak, because if you weren't you wouldn't date a Muslim. You'd date a Hindu and be proud of it.

wait wait...so ur sayin....u wud give up ur parents/siblings/husband/children...if one of ur imams tell u to jump off the bridge in the name of islam?? u wud DO IT??? w/o thinkin of ur family???? u wud think abt ur god 1st??? RU CRAZZYYY??Just because an Imam wants you to that doesn't mean ALLAH would want you to do that. We love God more than anything or anyone, not Imams. Muslims don't need Imams to know what God wants. Each & every Muslim needs to read the Quran himself or herself.

ah man... what are you?

There is no JUST MUSLIM anymore, unfortunately!THAT'S BOVINE ANUS VOMIT! That's what they want you to think. Follow the Quran and Quran only. Forming sects is haram.

adren@line
November 16th, 2005, 12:10 AM
I thought you were strong enough. LOL.

lol.

yeah well it was more-so of a joke, cuz I guesssss people would assume a HinJew would be anti-Muslim.

:dunno:

Rishi_TEX
November 16th, 2005, 12:10 AM
you are a fuckin dumbass, DO U THINK GOD WILL TELL YOU TO KILL PEOPLE!

WHAT AN IMBISHOL!(imbecile) :ugh2:


wat if He does.....wud u listen?? thas the point


ur negating urself dumbass: u said, u wud sacrifice ur family if god tells u....

Enammmmm
November 16th, 2005, 12:11 AM
And ur point being??? :sarb:

I was told that by a strong Christian man and he connected how JUDAISM-CHRISTIANITY-ISLAM is all connected... , he pointed all that to me after I told him that the Quran speaks of JESUS... and he mentioned


" The bible speaks of Prophet Muhammad as well, just not by name"

Enammmmm
November 16th, 2005, 12:11 AM
wat if He does.....wud u listen?? thas the point


ur negating urself dumbass: u said, u wud sacrifice ur family if god tells u....

THE ANSWER IS YES as I HAVE SAID SO BEFORE.. do u not fuckin understand english man?


:wtf:

reaz
November 16th, 2005, 12:12 AM
lol.

yeah well it was more-so of a joke, cuz I guesssss people would assume a HinJew would be anti-Muslim.

:dunno:

dont worry. i got it. i just felt like poking some fun as well.

MolviCorleone
November 16th, 2005, 12:12 AM
I'm ex-Sunni. I was born into a Sunni family. When I realized how meaningless it was, I abandoned all sects and followed(or at least attempted to) the Quran and the Quran only from then on. I thank AntiDesi greatly for opening my eyes. He made me aware that the 5 pillars, sunnahs, hadiths, etc. weren't in the Quran. But don't get it twisted, yo. He didn't make me abandon sects among Muslims. I chose to. He just told me about it and how it violated the Quran. What AntiDesi told me was the truth, and the truth was so obvious that I had to believe it. And you can also count on AntiDesi to provide you with metal...:rockon:

the Quran was written

5 pillars, sunnahs, hadiths dont contradict anything in the quran.

whats your point.

muslims can survive without hadiths, but it doesnt mean we should reject hadiths or do the opposite of what they teach.

theres many false/weak hadiths, even in sahih bukhari, therefore an average guy cannot really read hadiths and form thier own judgement without seeking advice from a proper teacher.

but overall theres too many hadiths which contain the truth, therefore i would never desert hadiths and dont see why you are doing so.

adren@line
November 16th, 2005, 12:12 AM
THE ANSWER IS YES as I HAVE SAID SO BEFORE.. do u not fuckin understand english man?


no he understands Arabic

BAKALAH DUR DUR BALAK DIRKA DIRKA BAKALA AKMAKALA DUR DUR MAKALA DIRKA

Enammmmm
November 16th, 2005, 12:13 AM
THAT'S BOVINE ANUS VOMIT! That's what they want you to think. Follow the Quran and Quran only. Forming sects is haram.


Dude I AGREE... I AGREE forming sects is haram...aah man.. i dont know why the division came in the first place... some dumbass must have screwed up and wanted one to hate another... :no:

Lust Buster
November 16th, 2005, 12:13 AM
Id marry a Jew.


Then id have a strong HinJew son who would go around and beat up Muslims.

:pHinjew?

That'd be the ultimate weakling. Any Muslim could take on any 10 Hinjews while sleepwalking.

adren@line
November 16th, 2005, 12:14 AM
dont worry. i got it. i just felt like poking some fun as well.

haha

k

:)

Rishi_TEX
November 16th, 2005, 12:14 AM
no he understands Arabic

BAKALAH DUR DUR BALAK DIRKA DIRKA BAKALA AKMAKALA DUR DUR MAKALA DIRKA


:rofl:

The Anti Desi
November 16th, 2005, 12:14 AM
I was told that by a strong Christian man and he connected how JUDAISM-CHRISTIANITY-ISLAM is all connected... , he pointed all that to me after I told him that the Quran speaks of JESUS... and he mentioned


" The bible speaks of Prophet Muhammad as well, just not by name"
And where did I make such a remark???

Rishi_TEX
November 16th, 2005, 12:15 AM
THE ANSWER IS YES as I HAVE SAID SO BEFORE.. do u not fuckin understand english man?


:wtf:


hahah so u negated urself AGAIN!!! thanks for ans

lil_tuntuni
November 16th, 2005, 12:15 AM
I don't know any desi jews...lol but if I did marry a Jew..even though my family is opend minded..they would probably freak out...because they're not very fond of Jewish people..cuz most Jews are so stingy and ungrateful...but there's good and bad amongst alll people...Anyway... they wouldn't disown me...but they would be very unhappy...

adren@line
November 16th, 2005, 12:15 AM
Hinjew?

That'd be the ultimate weakling. Any Muslim could take on any 10 Hinjews while sleepwalking.

but hed be uber smart and rich so he could probably outsmart you and/or paysome one to do the job.

:Paper:

The Anti Desi
November 16th, 2005, 12:17 AM
the Quran was written

5 pillars, sunnahs, hadiths dont contradict anything in the quran.

whats your point.

muslims can survive without hadiths, but it doesnt mean we should reject hadiths or do the opposite of what they teach.

theres many false/weak hadiths, even in sahih bukhari, therefore an average guy cannot really read hadiths and form thier own judgement without seeking advice from a proper teacher.

but overall theres too many hadiths which contain the truth, therefore i would never desert hadiths and dont see why you are doing so.
And who made such a claim???

Rishi_TEX
November 16th, 2005, 12:18 AM
I don't know any desi jews...lol but if I did marry a Jew..even though my family is opend minded..they would probably freak out...because they're not very fond of Jewish people..cuz most Jews are so stingy and ungrateful...but there's good and bad amongst alll people...Anyway... they wouldn't disown me...but they would be very unhappy...


salvi thas generalization

adren@line
November 16th, 2005, 12:18 AM
Dude I AGREE... I AGREE forming sects is haram...aah man.. i dont know why the division came in the first place... some dumbass must have screwed up and wanted one to hate another... :no:


its basic psychology as to why Christianity and Islam have a million sects each.

When people are brainwashed into thinking a religion is the ultimate truth and is this extremely precious gift from God, they become very protective of it.

So when people start to disagree, they not only take it as a disagreement, but also an attack on their religion and on God, all due to the brainwashing.

So various groups of people who have similar beliefs stick togethor so they can, atleast in their minds, cling to and possess the truths and satiate their belief that other sects follow a false truth.

Combine that with tribalism and you have a recipe for disaster.

Enammmmm
November 16th, 2005, 12:19 AM
And where did I make such a remark???


uh i was connecting it to the point u made where the bible speaks to not eat pork (somewhere).

reaz
November 16th, 2005, 12:19 AM
the Quran was written

5 pillars, sunnahs, hadiths dont contradict anything in the quran.

whats your point.

muslims can survive without hadiths, but it doesnt mean we should reject hadiths or do the opposite of what they teach.

theres many false/weak hadiths, even in sahih bukhari, therefore an average guy cannot really read hadiths and form thier own judgement without seeking advice from a proper teacher.

but overall theres too many hadiths which contain the truth, therefore i would never desert hadiths and dont see why you are doing so.

while this is true, hadiths impose a timeline on the religion. perhaps 7th century arabia is not the way to go now. most hadith are region specific too. as long as hadiths dont contradict the Quran and make life harder for a muslim I dont think it's a bane. A lot of hadith do that. Hadiths are also edited by different sects to suit their purposes. This became apparent to me when my pal showed me a hadith pulled out of sahih bukhari and showed me the version followed by shi'ites and the version followed by sunnis.. anyway, that's my 2 cents..

arbigooner
November 16th, 2005, 12:20 AM
THAT'S BOVINE ANUS VOMIT! That's what they want you to think. Follow the Quran and Quran only. Forming sects is haram.
what about Hadith?

Lust Buster
November 16th, 2005, 12:20 AM
the Quran was written

5 pillars, sunnahs, hadiths dont contradict anything in the quran.

whats your point.

muslims can survive without hadiths, but it doesnt mean we should reject hadiths or do the opposite of what they teach.

theres many false/weak hadiths, even in sahih bukhari, therefore an average guy cannot really read hadiths and form thier own judgement without seeking advice from a proper teacher.

but overall theres too many hadiths which contain the truth, therefore i would never desert hadiths and dont see why you are doing so.The Quran is written by God. Everything else wasn't, so it's useless. I'm not saying the 5 pillars, sunnahs, and hadiths are bad advice. But a Muslim can do without them because all that stuff comes from the Quran anyways. Besides, you don't which hadiths and sunnahs are authentic if any of them are.

Enammmmm
November 16th, 2005, 12:21 AM
its basic psychology as to why Christianity and Islam have a million sects each.

When people are brainwashed into thinking a religion is the ultimate truth and this extremely precious gift from God, they become very protective of it.

So when people start to disagree, they not only take it as a disagreement, but also an attack on their religion and on God, all due to the brainwashing.

So various groups of people who have similar beliefs stick togethor so they can, atleast in their minds, cling to and possess the truths and satiate their belief that other sects follow a false truth.

Combine that with tribalism and you have a recipe for disaster.

Obviously you have no knowledge of Islam so :hand: dont direct anything to me if u want to claim such stupidity...

Islam has a milliion sects :rofl:

The Anti Desi
November 16th, 2005, 12:21 AM
uh i was connecting it to the point u made where the bible speaks to not eat pork (somewhere).
Because Molvi said ALL Christian girls eat pork......quite a generalization.

Enammmmm
November 16th, 2005, 12:23 AM
The Quran is written by God. Everything else wasn't, so it's useless. I'm not saying the 5 pillars, sunnahs, and hadiths are bad advice. But a Muslim can do without them because all that stuff comes from the Quran anyways. Besides, you don't which hadiths and sunnahs are authentic if any of them are.


I also disagree with some Hadiths.... but THE QURAN was written by GOD(ALLAH)?

arbigooner
November 16th, 2005, 12:23 AM
its basic psychology as to why Christianity and Islam have a million sects each.

When people are brainwashed into thinking a religion is the ultimate truth and is this extremely precious gift from God, they become very protective of it.

So when people start to disagree, they not only take it as a disagreement, but also an attack on their religion and on God, all due to the brainwashing.

So various groups of people who have similar beliefs stick togethor so they can, atleast in their minds, cling to and possess the truths and satiate their belief that other sects follow a false truth.

Combine that with tribalism and you have a recipe for disaster.
There is no brainwashing in Islam, so you just wasted about 5 minutes of your time there.

The Anti Desi
November 16th, 2005, 12:24 AM
while this is true, hadiths impose a timeline on the religion. perhaps 7th century arabia is not the way to go now. most hadith are region specific too. as long as hadiths dont contradict the Quran and make life harder for a muslim I dont think it's a bane. A lot of hadith do that. Hadiths are also edited by different sects to suit their purposes. This became apparent to me when my pal showed me a hadith pulled out of sahih bukhari and showed me the version followed by shi'ites and the version followed by sunnis.. anyway, that's my 2 cents..
And the same applies to the last Sermon. The Sunnis and Shias don't get their glory without the last sermon....so both made their own versions.

Lust Buster
November 16th, 2005, 12:24 AM
what about Hadith?It's haram to think it's as valid as the Quran.

Enammmmm
November 16th, 2005, 12:24 AM
Because Molvi said ALL Christian girls eat pork......quite a generalization.

Christians follow and do not disagree to eating pork, IN GENERAL...not every christian individually, im sure thats what MOLVI meant.

Enammmmm
November 16th, 2005, 12:26 AM
And the same applies to the last Sermon. The Sunnis and Shias don't get their glory without the last sermon....so both made their own versions.


Incorrect, as far as i know, the SHi'te separated from the SUNNI... both who were followers of ISLAM as a whole.

Lust Buster
November 16th, 2005, 12:27 AM
THE QURAN was written by GOD(ALLAH)?yes

And the same applies to the last Sermon. The Sunnis and Shias don't get their glory without the last sermon....so both made their own versions.They're two versions of the last sermon!?

The Anti Desi
November 16th, 2005, 12:27 AM
Incorrect, as far as i know, the SHi'te separated from the SUNNI... both who were followers of ISLAM as a whole.
The Sunnis claim Muhammed pbuh said "leave behind Quran and Sunnah"......while the Shia's cliam he said "leave behind Quran and Alhul-Bayt (progeny)".

bellefemme
November 16th, 2005, 12:28 AM
And who made such a claim???
well, inorder for someone to be a true muslim, u must follow the five pillars. why do u think they are called "pillars" it means they are the foundation of ISLAM, they surround ISLAM.
Overall, we all have different views abt this whole thread is b/c we are not strong enough toward islamic knowlege, we are giving comments based on very lil knowledge. In every field, there are experts who knows certain subjects in very details, so is an Imam,

Enammmmm
November 16th, 2005, 12:29 AM
The Sunnis claim Muhammed pbuh said "leave behind Quran and Sunnah"......while the Shia's cliam he said "leave behind Quran and Alhul-Bayt (progeny)".


LEAVE? or LIVE?

MolviCorleone
November 16th, 2005, 12:29 AM
And who made such a claim???
no no

you tell me which person claimed everything in Sahih bukhari is authenticated

like i said before, you and me are in no position to judge a hadith if we dont know the full background of the hadith.

Lust Buster
November 16th, 2005, 12:30 AM
well, inorder for someone to be a true muslim, u must follow the five pillars. why do u think they are called "pillars" it means they are the foundation of ISLAM, they surround ISLAM.
Overall, we all have different views abt this whole thread is b/c we are not strong enough toward islamic knowlege, we are giving comments based on very lil knowledge. In every field, there are experts who knows certain subjects in very details, so is an Imam,Where did the 5 pillars come from?

adren@line
November 16th, 2005, 12:30 AM
Obviously you have no knowledge of Islam so :hand: dont direct anything to me if u want to claim such stupidity...

Islam has a milliion sects :rofl:

uh

1. I have plenty of knowledge on Islam
2. The "million sects" thing is an exaggeration.

All of this is basic psychology and is also applies to Christianity, which is also a "we are right and everyone else wrong" religion.

There is no brainwashing in Islam, so you just wasted about 5 minutes of your time there.

It doesnt matter what you say.

This forum is proof enough.

Muslims on this site qoute the Quran even to non-Muslims like it is some ultimate source of truth *for everyone* and insist in a matter-of-fact way that the Quran *is* the word of God with no objective thinking.

The habit of Muslims to pass off beliefs as facts (and the inablity to distinguish between the two) is extremely rampant on this forum, as well as others I visit.

All of that = brainwashing.
:Paper:

The Anti Desi
November 16th, 2005, 12:31 AM
well, inorder for someone to be a true muslim, u must follow the five pillars. why do u think they are called "pillars" it means they are the foundation of ISLAM, they surround ISLAM.
Overall, we all have different views abt this whole thread is b/c we are not strong enough toward islamic knowlege, we are giving comments based on very lil knowledge. In every field, there are experts who knows certain subjects in very details, so is an Imam,
Who needs an Imam to follow the five "pillars"???? The Quran gives all information. Half the reason I don't trust Imams is because much of the stuff they preached to me contradicts the Quran.

The Anti Desi
November 16th, 2005, 12:32 AM
LEAVE? or LIVE?
I leave behind.....I leave you with....that type of translation.

arbigooner
November 16th, 2005, 12:32 AM
It's haram to think it's as valid as the Quran.
Hadith is only used to interpret the Quran, not establish its validity. By denying Hadith altogether, you deny very important aspects of Islam...i.e. Wuzu, prayer 5 times a day, etc. While I respect your opinion that their are fabricated Ahadith out there, there are still Hadith which are considered authentic by a majority of scholars, Hadith of which the line of narrators can be traced right back to Prophet Muhammad (SAW) himself.

The Anti Desi
November 16th, 2005, 12:33 AM
no no

you tell me which person claimed everything in Sahih bukhari is authenticated

like i said before, you and me are in no position to judge a hadith if we dont know the full background of the hadith.
And who authorized the Sahih Bukhari??? Who authorized the "idea" of hadith???

MolviCorleone
November 16th, 2005, 12:33 AM
The Quran is written by God. Everything else wasn't, so it's useless. I'm not saying the 5 pillars, sunnahs, and hadiths are bad advice. But a Muslim can do without them because all that stuff comes from the Quran anyways. Besides, you don't which hadiths and sunnahs are authentic if any of them are.


:no:

its sad to see a dumbass representing my religion

Lust Buster
November 16th, 2005, 12:33 AM
Who needs an Imam to follow the five "pillars"???? The Quran gives all information. Half the reason I don't trust Imams is because much of the stuff they preached to me contradicts the Quran.The reason imams exist is because they lead prayers. As for living Islam, the individual Muslim has 100% control of that.

The Anti Desi
November 16th, 2005, 12:34 AM
Hadith is only used to interpret the Quran, not establish its validity. By denying Hadith altogether, you deny very important aspects of Islam...i.e. Wuzu, prayer 5 times a day, etc. While I respect your opinion that their are fabricated Ahadith out there, there are still Hadith which are considered authentic by a majority of scholars, Hadith of which the line of narrators can be traced right back to Prophet Muhammad (SAW) himself.
Wudu is in the Quran, and hadiths don't say how to pray.

MolviCorleone
November 16th, 2005, 12:34 AM
And who authorized the Sahih Bukhari??? Who authorized the "idea" of hadith???


no no

you tell me

you are the expert here :rolleyes:

im the simple guy with a lack of knowledge

Enammmmm
November 16th, 2005, 12:35 AM
uh

1. I have plenty of knowledge on Islam
2. The "million sects" thing is an exaggeration.

All of this is basic psychology and is also applies to Christianity, which is also a "we are right and everyone else wrong" religion.



It doesnt matter what you say.

This forum is proof enough.

Muslims on this site qoute the Quran even to non-Muslims like it is some ultimate source of truth *for everyone* and insist in a matter-of-fact way that the Quran *is* the word of God with no objective thinking.

The habit of Muslims to pass off beliefs as facts (and the inablity to distinguish between the two) is extremely rampant on this forum, as well as others I visit.

All of that = brainwashing.
:Paper:

oh so u exaggerate to point some true knowledge that you know?

:scratch: how does that happen? like what in the hell u doing in this thread anyway :rofl: :gtfo:

Lust Buster
November 16th, 2005, 12:36 AM
:no:

its sad to see a dumbass representing my religionIf you were so religious, you wouldn't be calling me dumbass, dumbass.

The Anti Desi
November 16th, 2005, 12:36 AM
no no

you tell me

you are the expert here :rolleyes:

im the simple guy with a lack of knowledge
Ok.....look in the Quran...and tell me if you can find anything about the "hadith" and "Sunna" of Muhammed.

Enammmmm
November 16th, 2005, 12:37 AM
no no

you tell me

you are the expert here :rolleyes:

im the simple guy with a lack of knowledge


:rofl: just give it up... i try to understand him, and then he rants bak at me criticizing... THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF PEOPLE who really belong on the outside... even after believing such a true powerful religion, u turn ur back slightly on it.

:shame: doesnt work that way sorry.

Lust Buster
November 16th, 2005, 12:37 AM
no no

you tell me

you are the expert here :rolleyes:

im the simple guy with a lack of knowledgeYou're sarcasm hits the truth right on the nail.

Social_larki
November 16th, 2005, 12:38 AM
will you parents accept it? will you get kicked out of the family? Family's honor will be gone?

hmmm i would be beat up with plastic chappals.. the kind that really hurt :(
and then probably disowned, although im not quite sure. It's always easy to speak hypothetically, but parents these days can surprise you, so who knows they might just accept it ....

ORaNGe dAsY
November 16th, 2005, 12:39 AM
I'd get an arse whoopin and get disowned :(.....I'd never marry outside of my religion anyway

arbigooner
November 16th, 2005, 12:39 AM
Wudu is in the Quran, and hadiths don't say how to pray.
And how exactly would you perform Wudu according to the Quran? does it provide specific guidelines on how to go about doing it? no. Are prayers, the Isha prayer for example, mentioned in the Quran, no. The Quran is the word of Allah, the principles of Islam, and Prophet Muhammad interpreted that which we wouldnt normally understand by just reading the Quran.