Dionosaurs

[Cunard]

No such thing as dinosaurs. If you can accept that these "things" called dinosaurs existed, then why not believe in unicorns, dragons, dwarfs etc..?

Next time you're in a museum ask the curator how many of those "bones" on display are real. You'll be surprised by his response.

Fact: no scientist has gathered enough "authentic" bones to put together a whole dinosaur. Everything you see and read about regarding what they looked like is pure conjecture and hypothesis.


^above comment kinda made me chuckle...but then again...ive never seen dinosaur bones getting dug up in person with my own eyes

so whats your take on it?

[MURDERTIME]

now that makes u wounder

[Space-Cowboy]

^above comment kinda made me chuckle...but then again...ive never seen dinosaur bones getting dug up in person with my own eyes

so whats your take on it?


There's more than enough evidence for the existance of dinosaurs...

[ShivaChrist]

^above comment kinda made me chuckle...but then again...ive never seen dinosaur bones getting dug up in person with my own eyes

so whats your take on it?

Not to sound too mean, but I think that anyone who doesn't believe in dinosaurs is a... wait, I can't call someone that on the serious discussion forum. Well, use your imagination.

[Space-Cowboy]

Not to sound too mean, but I think that anyone who doesn't believe in dinosaurs is a... wait, I can't call someone that on the serious discussion forum. Well, use your imagination.


"God has no place within these walls, just like facts have no place in organized religion!!" -Simpsons :p

[The Anti Desi]

Where does the Quran ever discourage the existence of dinosaurs??? :sarb:

[Leon 007]

^above comment kinda made me chuckle...but then again...ive never seen dinosaur bones getting dug up in person with my own eyes

so whats your take on it?
could be a myth just like Neil Amstrong landing on the moon

[Space-Cowboy]

could be a myth just like Neil Amstrong landing on the moon


Yes except anyone who DOESN'T believe in the moon landing is a complete dumbass............. :neutral:

[Leon 007]

Yes except anyone who DOESN'T believe in the moon landing is a complete dumbass............. :neutral:
why?

[SSSash]

LOL what are you gonna say? it's Jewish propaganda??! :rofl: ofcourse dinosaurs existed stupid!

It's just my opinion.. but in all honesty I find it crazy that the most logical theories of life that have ever came about, which people have dedicated their whole lives to, can be dismissed so quickly. I reckon if all religions came around after the discovery of the first dinosaur bones then no doubt that stuff would be written in there too, just like the earth not being the centre of the universe, space travel etc. but I personally don't believe that any holy book should be interpreted literally either, word for word. There's more to God's words than that.

[Space-Cowboy]

Listen man, if people choose not to believe in prehistoric earth, that's up to them, I won't rag on them...


But when claims like conspiracy theories on this level com about, you are INSULTING someone. Old humble men who had made it his entire life to live JUST for that moment.

ASIDE FROM THE FACT THAT there is OVERWHELMING proof that the moonlanding DID occur, and all counterarguments HAVE been proven false, to disrespect veteran astronauts like that is utterly unacceptable. Sure, dis dinosaurs, no sweat off my back, like I said to each his own, ... and I highly doubt that's 'disrespecting' any dinosaur.... but to call the moonlanding a fake is not only a grave dishonour.... it's outright false.

[QqQueen BbBee]

Listen man, if people choose not to believe in prehistoric earth, that's up to them, I won't rag on them...


But when claims like conspiracy theories on this level com about, you are INSULTING someone. Old humble men who had made it his entire life to live JUST for that moment.

ASIDE FROM THE FACT THAT there is OVERWHELMING proof that the moonlanding DID occur, and all counterarguments HAVE been proven false, to disrespect veteran astronauts like that is utterly unacceptable. Sure, dis dinosaurs, no sweat off my back, like I said to each his own, ... and I highly doubt that's 'disrespecting' any dinosaur.... but to call the moonlanding a fake is not only a grave dishonour.... it's outright false.
That's the same logic the propoganda uses to get us to "support our troops"... If you don't support the war you don't support our soliders... Yuck :rolleyes:

[Leon 007]

Listen man, if people choose not to believe in prehistoric earth, that's up to them, I won't rag on them...


But when claims like conspiracy theories on this level com about, you are INSULTING someone. Old humble men who had made it his entire life to live JUST for that moment.

ASIDE FROM THE FACT THAT there is OVERWHELMING proof that the moonlanding DID occur, and all counterarguments HAVE been proven false, to disrespect veteran astronauts like that is utterly unacceptable. Sure, dis dinosaurs, no sweat off my back, like I said to each his own, ... and I highly doubt that's 'disrespecting' any dinosaur.... but to call the moonlanding a fake is not only a grave dishonour.... it's outright false.
okay explain this when America 'landed on the moon' then why did they not return to the moon after that how many years has it been since they havnt landed on the moon since, yet all we have is some made up hollywood footage. Why on the landing of the moon video footage why was the american flag quivering as wind was making it move, we all know there is no atmosphere in space, its a vacuam. Why was the shadow from the moon of the space shuttle on the wrong side, i mean the shadow was facing towards the sun, this is impossible within the laws of nature.
A famous scientist once said that in order for us to go and land on the moon we need to protected by 6 meters of led to protect us from the suns radiation, and how come Neil amstrong was walking about willy nilly surely with the suns uv radiation non of the astrounauts would have survived.
The space race between Russia and America was an imortant way to show world dominance, so who ever landed on the moon 1st would be the dominant one. Surely with all the evidence pointing against America's landing on the moon with countless interviews with American Scientists saying it was a hoax. It was obvious that it was made in some hollywood lab.

[Space-Cowboy]

okay explain this when America 'landed on the moon' then why did they not return to the moon after that how many years has it been since they havnt landed on the moon since, yet all we have is some made up hollywood footage. Why on the landing of the moon video footage why was the american flag quivering as wind was making it move, we all know there is no atmosphere in space, its a vacuam. Why was the shadow from the moon of the space shuttle on the wrong side, i mean the shadow was facing towards the sun, this is impossible within the laws of nature.
A famous scientist once said that in order for us to go and land on the moon we need to protected by 6 meters of led to protect us from the suns radiation, and how come Neil amstrong was walking about willy nilly surely with the suns uv radiation non of the astrounauts would have survived.
The space race between Russia and America was an imortant way to show world dominance, so who ever landed on the moon 1st would be the dominant one. Surely with all the evidence pointing against America's landing on the moon with countless interviews with American Scientists saying it was a hoax. It was obvious that it was made in some hollywood lab.

k.... I'm not gonna read the paragraph like that, put what you said in point form, and I'll break it down for you...

[Space-Cowboy]

That's the same logic the propoganda uses to get us to "support our troops"... If you don't support the war you don't support our soliders... Yuck :rolleyes:


Except that the moon landing ACTUALLY has proof to back it up.

[Leon 007]

okay explain this when America 'landed on the moon' then why did they not return to the moon after that how many years has it been since they havnt landed on the moon since, yet all we have is some made up hollywood footage.


Why on the landing of the moon video footage why was the american flag quivering as wind was making it move, we all know there is no atmosphere in space, its a vacuam.


Why was the shadow from the moon of the space shuttle on the wrong side, i mean the shadow was facing towards the sun, this is impossible within the laws of nature.


A famous scientist once said that in order for us to go and land on the moon we need to protected by 6 meters of led to protect us from the suns radiation, and how come Neil amstrong was walking about willy nilly surely with the suns uv radiation non of the astrounauts would have survived.



The space race between Russia and America was an imortant way to show world dominance, so who ever landed on the moon 1st would be the dominant one. Surely with all the evidence pointing against America's landing on the moon with countless interviews with American Scientists saying it was a hoax. It was obvious that it was made in some hollywood lab.

okay explain this when America 'landed on the moon' then why did they not return to the moon after that how many years has it been since they havnt landed on the moon since, yet all we have is some made up hollywood footage.


Why on the landing of the moon video footage why was the american flag quivering as wind was making it move, we all know there is no atmosphere in space, its a vacuam.


Why was the shadow from the moon of the space shuttle on the wrong side, i mean the shadow was facing towards the sun, this is impossible within the laws of nature.


A famous scientist once said that in order for us to go and land on the moon we need to protected by 6 meters of led to protect us from the suns radiation, and how come Neil amstrong was walking about willy nilly surely with the suns uv radiation non of the astrounauts would have survived.



The space race between Russia and America was an imortant way to show world dominance, so who ever landed on the moon 1st would be the dominant one. Surely with all the evidence pointing against America's landing on the moon with countless interviews with American Scientists saying it was a hoax. It was obvious that it was made in some hollywood lab.

[Adz4eva]

Where does the Quran ever discourage the existence of dinosaurs??? :sarb:

I dont think it does.

Its just something irrelevant I feel. Have scientists discovered all lifeforms at the bottom of the sea? No, probably not. Have any lifeforms been found on other planets, no. There could have been countless number of lifeforms before man was on earth, and on other planets out there, all off which are created by non other then, the Almighty, how it affects our life... I dont know, because as ^ said, the Quran doesnt discourage their existence, but then again I dont think it mentions dinosaurs by name either, like it doesnt mention the name of all other creatures in existence.

[SSSash]

The space race between Russia and America was an imortant way to show world dominance, so who ever landed on the moon 1st would be the dominant one. Surely with all the evidence pointing against America's landing on the moon with countless interviews with American Scientists saying it was a hoax. It was obvious that it was made in some hollywood lab.

well in that case why would Russia accept that they America made it to the moon? I'm pretty sure if that was the case, Russian scientists wouldn't be stupid enough to think it happened as well.

[Cunard]

A famous scientist once said that in order for us to go and land on the moon we need to protected by 6 meters of led to protect us from the suns radiation, and how come Neil amstrong was walking about willy nilly surely with the suns uv radiation non of the astrounauts would have survived.

i guess the international space station and the space shuttle are made up too cause those sure dont have 6 meter thick lead skin when their in space :p

as for the rest....im sure the russians arent that dumb and would have figured it out if the americans faked it lol

[Leon 007]

well in that case why would Russia accept that they America made it to the moon? I'm pretty sure if that was the case, Russian scientists wouldn't be stupid enough to think it happened as well.
i dont know about that but judging the evidence they have tells me they did not land on the moon, coz that is not the moon. Any logical person can see this. Just like the Roswell incident and Bermuda triangle was false so was landing on the moon sorry to say but most of what America does is based upon lies, just like the Iraq war.

[Leon 007]

i guess the international space station and the space shuttle are made up too cause those sure dont have 6 meter thick lead skin when their in space :p

as for the rest....im sure the russians arent that dumb and would have figured it out if the americans faked it lol
dont take the piss except the truth man. well the international space shuttle are not orbitting the moon.

[Cunard]

dont take the piss except the truth man. well the international space shuttle are not orbitting the moon.

theres not much difference....still in space and outside the earths atmosphere...hecne no protection from radiation

[Space-Cowboy]

okay explain this when America 'landed on the moon' then why did they not return to the moon after that how many years has it been since they havnt landed on the moon since, yet all we have is some made up hollywood footage.

Because the first landing cost them $$$$ well into the tens of billions.


Why on the landing of the moon video footage why was the american flag quivering as wind was making it move, we all know there is no atmosphere in space, its a vacuam.

Combination of a) Solar winds b) no friction in space So: when the flag was adjusted into the ground [lunar soil], the twisting motion of the pole made by Armstrong caused the flag to sway.... and, as there is no friction, or any such "resisting" force, the flag continued to sway.... the solar winds certainly didn't help matters.


Why was the shadow from the moon of the space shuttle on the wrong side, i mean the shadow was facing towards the sun, this is impossible within the laws of nature.

The shadow of that particular vessel in that particular pic comes about as a result of the shadow created by the light reflecting off earth.


A famous scientist once said that in order for us to go and land on the moon we need to protected by 6 meters of led to protect us from the suns radiation, and how come Neil amstrong was walking about willy nilly surely with the suns uv radiation non of the astrounauts would have survived.

This "famous" scientist is full of shit.... no other way to put it....

The space race between Russia and America was an imortant way to show world dominance, so who ever landed on the moon 1st would be the dominant one. Surely with all the evidence pointing against America's landing on the moon with countless interviews with American Scientists saying it was a hoax. It was obvious that it was made in some hollywood lab.


Irrelevant.... and blatantly wrong...

Stop looking for conspiracies where there are none.... the people at "Fox News" who support this 'theory' and all those who agree need to be shot on the grounds of being too stupid to be allowed to live.... I'm going to go out on a limb and HOPE that you are not one if these people who believe the moon landing was fake......... and I'm going to HOPE thatr Allah has given you the wisdom to realize that conspiracy theorists are dead-beat highschool dropouts, with no place in modern science.......

[Leon 007]

theres not much difference....still in space and outside the earths atmosphere...hecne no protection from radiation
there is difference

[Cunard]

there is difference


do explain the difference

[SSSash]

there is differencen

u really need to back up your arguments.. "accept the truth man" what kind of shit is that?

[The Anti Desi]

I dont think it does.

Its just something irrelevant I feel. Have scientists discovered all lifeforms at the bottom of the sea? No, probably not. Have any lifeforms been found on other planets, no. There could have been countless number of lifeforms before man was on earth, and on other planets out there, all off which are created by non other then, the Almighty, how it affects our life... I dont know, because as ^ said, the Quran doesnt discourage their existence, but then again I dont think it mentions dinosaurs by name either, like it doesnt mention the name of all other creatures in existence.
True. Just because Allah does not mention it by the today's terminology, does not mean discouraging the actaul existence. Allah did not mention every single species of animal....but we know that there are.

[methodman535]

okay explain this when America 'landed on the moon' then why did they not return to the moon after that how many years has it been since they havnt landed on the moon since, yet all we have is some made up hollywood footage. Why on the landing of the moon video footage why was the american flag quivering as wind was making it move, we all know there is no atmosphere in space, its a vacuam. Why was the shadow from the moon of the space shuttle on the wrong side, i mean the shadow was facing towards the sun, this is impossible within the laws of nature.
A famous scientist once said that in order for us to go and land on the moon we need to protected by 6 meters of led to protect us from the suns radiation,


Which scientist? And if thats true then have all the spacewalks since the moon landing been hoaxes too? They are all WELL ABOVE the ozone layer.


and how come Neil amstrong was walking about willy nilly surely with the suns uv radiation non of the astrounauts would have survived.


willy nilly? He was in a fuckin space suit and his vizor had like 10 different layers of tinted glass.


The space race between Russia and America was an imortant way to show world dominance, so who ever landed on the moon 1st would be the dominant one.


Ok....and you are telling me that the russians still havent figured this out?


Surely with all the evidence pointing against America's landing on the moon with countless interviews with American Scientists saying it was a hoax. It was obvious that it was made in some hollywood lab.

Yeah there could be evidence but you havent revealed any of it. Is it because you are part of the conspiracy too or just plain daft?

[Space-Cowboy]

Which scientist? And if thats true then have all the spacewalks since the moon landing been hoaxes too? They are all WELL ABOVE the ozone layer.



willy nilly? He was in a fuckin space suit and his vizor had like 10 different layers of tinted glass.



Ok....and you are telling me that the russians still havent figured this out?



Yeah there could be evidence but you havent revealed any of it. Is it because you are part of the conspiracy too or just plain daft?




pfffft,....
:rolleyes: I already did my job disproving him and his conspiracy theory..... let ME take the credit, why you gotta come in hea and be all up in mah game!!! :rolleyes:















:p

[methodman535]

pfffft,....
:rolleyes: I already did my job disproving him and his conspiracy theory..... let ME take the credit, why you gotta come in hea and be all up in mah game!!! :rolleyes:















:p

I plan on fuckin your game up too. Its just gunna be a bit harder than this idiot. Take a number.

[methodman535]

u really need to back up your arguments.. "accept the truth man" what kind of shit is that?

Shhhh! Its part of his religious curriculum.

[methodman535]

okay explain this when America 'landed on the moon' then why did they not return to the moon after that how many years has it been since they havnt landed on the moon since, yet all we have is some made up hollywood footage.

Because the first landing cost them $$$$ well into the tens of billions.



Ok in that case why were six more moon landings attempted huh?



Why on the landing of the moon video footage why was the american flag quivering as wind was making it move, we all know there is no atmosphere in space, its a vacuam.

Combination of a) Solar winds b) no friction in space So: when the flag was adjusted into the ground [lunar soil], the twisting motion of the pole made by Armstrong caused the flag to sway.... and, as there is no friction, or any such "resisting" force, the flag continued to sway.... the solar winds certainly didn't help matters.



Solar wind is a plasma, more like a magnetic field than a gaseous wind. How can it keep flapping a flag consistently unless its made of metallic fabric? There is still friction between the different components of the flag so that motion should eventually dissipate as the kinetic energy gradually transforms to thermal energy.



Why was the shadow from the moon of the space shuttle on the wrong side, i mean the shadow was facing towards the sun, this is impossible within the laws of nature.

The shadow of that particular vessel in that particular pic comes about as a result of the shadow created by the light reflecting off earth.



In that PARTICULAR picture. But there were thousands of pics taken.



A famous scientist once said that in order for us to go and land on the moon we need to protected by 6 meters of led to protect us from the suns radiation, and how come Neil amstrong was walking about willy nilly surely with the suns uv radiation non of the astrounauts would have survived.

This "famous" scientist is full of shit.... no other way to put it....



What "radiation" are you two bickering about anyway? UV? Solar flares? Xrays? Gamma rays? How can either of you conclude anything without measurment figures?



The space race between Russia and America was an imortant way to show world dominance, so who ever landed on the moon 1st would be the dominant one. Surely with all the evidence pointing against America's landing on the moon with countless interviews with American Scientists saying it was a hoax. It was obvious that it was made in some hollywood lab.


Irrelevant.... and blatantly wrong...

Stop looking for conspiracies where there are none.... the people at "Fox News" who support this 'theory' and all those who agree need to be shot on the grounds of being too stupid to be allowed to live.... I'm going to go out on a limb and HOPE that you are not one if these people who believe the moon landing was fake......... and I'm going to HOPE thatr Allah has given you the wisdom to realize that conspiracy theorists are dead-beat highschool dropouts, with no place in modern science.......


Just cuz this moron uses Fox news as his gospel doesnt mean that fox got their hands on the best refutations and aired them, does it?

[methodman535]

i guess the international space station and the space shuttle are made up too cause those sure dont have 6 meter thick lead skin when their in space :p


Yeah and the space station didnt go to the moon either, did it?




as for the rest....im sure the russians arent that dumb and would have figured it out if the americans faked it lol

Ok they would have. And?

[hey_jay37]

how'd this go from a casual discussion about the existence dinosaurs to such a passionate argument about the moon-landing? :p :p

[ShivaChrist]

Except that the moon landing ACTUALLY has proof to back it up.

I think one day we need to just stop arguing with these morons, seriously. As far as they're concerned, there are no such things as Dinosaurs, JFK was assassinated by the Illuminati, the US bombed the Trade Center, and we never landed on the moon because it was faked.

LOL - it gets really hilarious as you keep tacking these on, doesn't it? :)

[Space-Cowboy]

Ok in that case why were six more moon landings attempted huh?


I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on that one...... still, launch attempts DID get cheaper over the years with increasing tech.




Solar wind is a plasma, more like a magnetic field than a gaseous wind. How can it keep flapping a flag consistently unless its made of metallic fabric? There is still friction between the different components of the flag so that motion should eventually dissipate as the kinetic energy gradually transforms to thermal energy.

No, it's not a gaseous wind, but it still carries enough momentum [when in large quantities]...


In that PARTICULAR picture. But there were thousands of pics taken.

I also mentioned the twisting of the flag pole, see above.


What "radiation" are you two bickering about anyway? UV? Solar flares? Xrays? Gamma rays? How can either of you conclude anything without measurment figures?

Irrelavant, still wouldn't effect the vessel or the astronaut suit at this location in space.




Just cuz this moron uses Fox news as his gospel doesnt mean that fox got their hands on the best refutations and aired them, does it?


Cuz fox news is so reputable? :sarb:

[Space-Cowboy]

I think one day we need to just stop arguing with these morons, seriously. As far as they're concerned, there are no such things as Dinosaurs, JFK was assassinated by the Illuminati, the US bombed the Trade Center, and we never landed on the moon because it was faked.

LOL - it gets really hilarious as you keep tacking these on, doesn't it? :)


I should really stop trying..... you know, just a month ago, my post count was half what it is now..... a sign that I've been spending way too much time on these forums...... maybe that's too much spare time I have on my hands..... you know what I'd normally be doing with that spare time? [and this is before I discovered ratedesi.com]........ I'd use it to play StarCraft... and a multitude of various other Blizzard games.... :p


The reason my post count is so high is because I have this ideal..... perhaps fool hardy view that maybe, just maybe, I can post my way into making sense to some of the people on these forums..... who...... for the lack of a better word.... are fucking dumbasses....

Now, I'm not asking people to change their views.... but they should atleast CONSIDER the alternative. When one fails to be curious and ask questions about one's surroundings........ THAT'S when they stop having common sense......... I'm just trying to help people.... but I can't do it alone, and I CERTAINLY can't do it all....... :neutral:

[Cunard]

Yeah and the space station didnt go to the moon either, did it?



Space is pretty much the same outside earths atmosphere and by the moon...hence his argumement about the need of having 6 feet thick lead skins for protection is a no go

[Sikh4Lyfe]

What the fuck, so tell me Einsteins, do "archaeologists" just make up bones structures and fantasize about over a thousand different types of big giant lizards and start naming them and making up bone structures for each one? Seriously, I never imagined you guys could get any more retarded but man, thanks for proving me wrong.

[methodman535]

Ok in that case why were six more moon landings attempted huh?


I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on that one...... still, launch attempts DID get cheaper over the years with increasing tech.



Ok so a launch today should be 10 times cheaper than the original apollos. Yet...nothing! So yeah that negates your reasoning on that one doesnt it?



Solar wind is a plasma, more like a magnetic field than a gaseous wind. How can it keep flapping a flag consistently unless its made of metallic fabric? There is still friction between the different components of the flag so that motion should eventually dissipate as the kinetic energy gradually transforms to thermal energy.

No, it's not a gaseous wind, but it still carries enough momentum [when in large quantities]...



Once again thats an assumption. Can you provide me with any MEASUREMENTS of this phantom wind of urs or are you opperating on blind faith cuz Carl Sagan told people about this?



In that PARTICULAR picture. But there were thousands of pics taken.

I also mentioned the twisting of the flag pole, see above.



Ok so theres thousands of pictures taken. You found one of those pictures where allegedly "earthlight" casts a shadow. Thats one pic taken care of. It doesnt mean all other pics are discrepency free.



What "radiation" are you two bickering about anyway? UV? Solar flares? Xrays? Gamma rays? How can either of you conclude anything without measurment figures?

Irrelavant, still wouldn't effect the vessel or the astronaut suit at this location in space.



How do you know it wouldnt? What do you base that assumption on besides "cuz NASA says so"? Its NASA that is being discredited here remember? Theres radiation on the moon, radiation in the upper atmosphere and radiation on earth. All different levels. What are you basing your assumption on that the radiation wouldnt affect the astronot on the moon when clearly its at a higher level than on earth and in the upper atm?




Just cuz this moron uses Fox news as his gospel doesnt mean that fox got their hands on the best refutations and aired them, does it?


Cuz fox news is so reputable? :sarb:


Its reputable as a right wing pro govt anti liberal mouthpiece. I mean...do you really have to stretch your imagination to its outer limits to just ASSUME for a minute that fox would spread bullshit so that idiotic morons like leon pick up on it and make asses of themselves? Isnt that victory for fox and the neocons?

[methodman535]

Space is pretty much the same outside earths atmosphere and by the moon...hence his argumement about the need of having 6 feet thick lead skins for protection is a no go

Says who? "Pretty much the same" isnt even quantifiably true cuz its not the same as far as radiation levels are concerned. And the atmosphere itself has many many levels in case you forgot your basic Atronomy.

[Space-Cowboy]

Ok so a launch today should be 10 times cheaper than the original apollos. Yet...nothing! So yeah that negates your reasoning on that one doesnt it?



I simply said it's gotten cheaper, which it HAS.... I didn't say by how much, I don't have the figures with me.

Once again thats an assumption. Can you provide me with any MEASUREMENTS of this phantom wind of urs or are you opperating on blind faith cuz Carl Sagan told people about this?



Actually yes, it IS Carl Sagan who I heard it from first. Carl Sagan was one of the greatest minds in astrophysics of the 20th century, why wouldn't I take his word?

Ok so theres thousands of pictures taken. You found one of those pictures where allegedly "earthlight" casts a shadow. Thats one pic taken care of. It doesnt mean all other pics are discrepency free.


The pic Leon was referring to was the one I mentioned, it IS infact discrepency free.


How do you know it wouldnt? What do you base that assumption on besides "cuz NASA says so"? Its NASA that is being discredited here remember? Theres radiation on the moon, radiation in the upper atmosphere and radiation on earth. All different levels. What are you basing your assumption on that the radiation wouldnt affect the astronot on the moon when clearly its at a higher level than on earth and in the upper atm?

Well for one thing there's no REASON to conclude that the radiation on the moon is any different than that beyond earth's atmosphere..... and astronauts have conducted routine spacewalks since then..... they're alive and kickin'.... so I doubt the radiation is much of a factor, considering that the material used to make spacesuits hasn't changed to drastically.


Its reputable as a right wing pro govt anti liberal mouthpiece. I mean...do you really have to stretch your imagination to its outer limits to just ASSUME for a minute that fox would spread bullshit so that idiotic morons like leon pick up on it and make asses of themselves? Isnt that victory for fox and the neocons?

I'm not gonna make a claim about Leon eitherway, all I know is that Fox has had some questionable programs in the past...... but then again, with the exception of CNN, I can't really expect any of the other U.S. tv news media outlets to be anything short of utter crap.

[Leon 007]

Which scientist? And if thats true then have all the spacewalks since the moon landing been hoaxes too? They are all WELL ABOVE the ozone layer.



willy nilly? He was in a fuckin space suit and his vizor had like 10 different layers of tinted glass.



Ok....and you are telling me that the russians still havent figured this out?



Yeah there could be evidence but you havent revealed any of it. Is it because you are part of the conspiracy too or just plain daft?

okay explain these then if America actually landed on the moon:

1. Apollo 14 astronaut Allen Shepard played golf on the Moon. In front of a worldwide TV audience, Mission Control teased him about slicing the ball to the right. Yet a slice is caused by uneven air flow over the ball. The Moon has no atmosphere and no air.

2. A camera panned upwards to catch Apollo 16's Lunar Landerlifting off the Moon. Who did the filming?

3. One NASA picture from Apollo 11 is looking up at Neil Armstrong about to take his giant step for mankind. The photographer must have been lying on the planet surface. If Armstrong was the first man on the Moon, then who took the shot?

4. The pressure inside a space suit was greater than inside a football. The astronauts should have been puffed out like the Michelin Man, but were seen freely bending their joints.

5. The Moon landings took place during the Cold War. Why didn't America make a signal on the moon that could be seen from earth? The PR would have been phenomenal and it could have been easily done with magnesium flares.

6. Text from pictures in the article said that only two men walked on the Moon during the Apollo 12 mission. Yet the astronaut reflected in the visor has no camera. Who took the shot?

7. The flags shadow goes behind the rock so doesn't match the dark line in the foreground, which looks like a line cord. So the shadow to the lower right of the spaceman must be the flag. Where is his shadow? And why is the flag fluttering if there is no air or wind on the moon?

8. How can the flag be brightly lit when its side is to the light? And where, in all of these shots, are the stars?

9. The Lander weighed 17 tons yet the astronauts feet seem to have made a bigger dent in the dust. The powerful booster rocket at the base of the Lunar Lander was fired to slow descent to the moons service. Yet it has left no traces of blasting on the dust underneath. It should have created a small crater, yet the booster looks like it's never been fired.

NASA have never offered any explanation whatsoever for the numerous
errors in the photographs, despite repeated questioning.
These errors include:
The Apollo 11 pictures show the ground in the distance being much darker
than the ground in the foreground, as if the Astronauts were standing in
a pool of light.

Several photos show evidence of extra lighting (as a professional photographer
would use fill-in lights) but no such lights were supposed to have been
used.

Some photos clearly show the light coming from "impossible"
angles. In one instance, Aldrin's boot is lit from below as he descends
the ladder.

Some photos contradict the TV camera pictures of the same events.

Some photos of one astronaut taken by the other are clearly taken from
slightly above the eye level of the subject, but in his visor, the reflection
of the astronaut with the camera shows it being held at chest level.

The length of the shadows in the Apollo 12 pictures don't agree with
the angle which the Sun should have been at.

Some wide area photos show shadows pointing in different directions.

In the sound recording of the lunar landing, you cannot hear the sound
of the engines. As the astronaut calls out the remaining distance to the
surface, he is only a few feet away from a rocket engine which should have
been producing 10000 lb of thrust.


when the control room asked a question to the Astronoughts the replies were instant with no delays. This seems strange as even with technology in the 1990's there is a delay from satellite links from the UK to the US. There is about a 0.7 second delay from London to California so how is it possible for instant replies from the Moon ?
There is also evidence that when people go into space that there voice goes tense although the Astronaughts voices have been analyzed and found to be normal, and 7/10 people said it sounded like someone reading from a script.

When Houston are talking to the module you should not be able to hear the
responses at least when the module is landing and the infamous "eagle has landed" quote, this is due to the noise that should have been created by the rocket motor which generates several hundred thousand pounds of thrust 20 ft below the astronaughts. The noise would have completely drowned
the vocals out.

An American author has researched and found out that he believes the Apollo Spacecraft would have needed to be two meters thick to prevent cosmic radiation from cooking the Astronaughts inside.
Also in addition to the radiation protection for the astronaughts similar protection would be required for the films + cameras, NASA's official explanation of how the films were protected was that the cameras were painted with a coat of aluminum paint,
yeah right.

[jdmdrfitertim]

as a scientist i know about these kind of things..... my favorite dinasour is the allasoraus

[BSD]

i love to see dinosaurs in real, i wish i was born back then

[Space-Cowboy]

i love to see dinosaurs in real, i wish i was born back then


Every bird and lizard that you see are decendants of dinosaurs.

[The Anti Desi]

For y'all arguin about the moon landing.......

Please do so in another post. This thread is about the dinosaur issue. Though the issue has digressed to the issue about the moon landing, it is not the topic of this thread.

[nyc_craziest]

lol the topic has changed to the moon landing, and on another note speaking about fact/ fiction i think that "face" on mars is real !!111 :brilsmur:

[Street_Scholar]

It's likely, the so called dinosaurs could be mammoths, that lived on earth before humans. I mean look at an elephant its massive. Furthermore at that time, the Ozone layer, was much more receptive at preventing solar ultraviolet radiation/high-energy radiation from penetrating to the earth's surface, the full radiation, if unhindered by this filtering effect of the Ozone Layer, would destroy animal tissue. However it was allowing some for the reason that if there was no ultraviolet rays the activation of vitamin D would not occur. Anyway, due to the Ozone Layer it is generally believed that living things such as trees, humans, animals etc, grow much, much bigger.

I'll give you an example if an elephant was around, at this early stage of sustained life on earth then the elephant would grow much, much bigger about 3X times of its actual size. So it could be possible that those dinosaur's were just animals at the time, who happened to be big.

Also even humans at the very early stage of human life on earth were massive, about the same size if houses or possibly even bigger. There were also normal sized people too. However, hundreds of remains of giant people have been unearthed proving without a doubt that giants did live on earth.

[BSD]

man, u really did some research there, btw i agree with what u said

[Street_Scholar]

Every bird and lizard that you see are decendants of dinosaurs.

Proving my claim further, that. As we go into the feature we are slowly shrinking. Our ancestors were much more bigger and stronger then use.

[Rishi_TEX]

could be a myth just like Neil Amstrong landing on the moon


^^^ this guy is a complete idiot.....

[dr_sinister1001]

LoL

Ya'll are all morons...

The ones with all these idiotic ideas and the ones entertaining them...

:idea:

[methodman535]

okay explain these then if America actually landed on the moon:

1. Apollo 14 astronaut Allen Shepard played golf on the Moon. In front of a worldwide TV audience, Mission Control teased him about slicing the ball to the right. Yet a slice is caused by uneven air flow over the ball. The Moon has no atmosphere and no air.



They TEASED him. Is someone serious when they tease? :no:



2. A camera panned upwards to catch Apollo 16's Lunar Landerlifting off the Moon. Who did the filming?



Houston. Ever heard of remote control? :rolloyes:



3. One NASA picture from Apollo 11 is looking up at Neil Armstrong about to take his giant step for mankind. The photographer must have been lying on the planet surface. If Armstrong was the first man on the Moon, then who took the shot?



Armstrong did, cameras can be attached to space suits you know.




4. The pressure inside a space suit was greater than inside a football. The astronauts should have been puffed out like the Michelin Man, but were seen freely bending their joints.



The joints were specially made to bend. And the suits were MADE to keep pressure in, just like in space walks. This is such fuckin bullshit.




5. The Moon landings took place during the Cold War. Why didn't America make a signal on the moon that could be seen from earth? The PR would have been phenomenal and it could have been easily done with magnesium flares.



They were on TV...cant that be seen from earth. And you fuckin idiot, how can you light a magnesium flare without an OXYGEN in the atmosphere? :smack:




6. Text from pictures in the article said that only two men walked on the Moon during the Apollo 12 mission. Yet the astronaut reflected in the visor has no camera. Who took the shot?



Show us that damn pic you king of copy and paste, there must have been cameras attached to the suits and have you heard of TRIPODs? They have them here on earth too. :rolleyes:




7. The flags shadow goes behind the rock so doesn't match the dark line in the foreground, which looks like a line cord. So the shadow to the lower right of the spaceman must be the flag. Where is his shadow? And why is the flag fluttering if there is no air or wind on the moon?



Get the picture. You are just mindlessly pasting stuff at random. And theres at least TWO light sources on the moon, one being from the earth itself which will shine a lot more than the moon shines on the earth at night.



8. How can the flag be brightly lit when its side is to the light? And where, in all of these shots, are the stars?



"The light" just refers to one source of light. And the starts are in the sky?




9. The Lander weighed 17 tons yet the astronauts feet seem to have made a bigger dent in the dust. The powerful booster rocket at the base of the Lunar Lander was fired to slow descent to the moons service. Yet it has left no traces of blasting on the dust underneath. It should have created a small crater, yet the booster looks like it's never been fired.



No traces? A lack of a crater doesnt mean no traces. The fuckin landed on ROCK for fucks sakes, so the blasts will just scuff some moon dust away but not bore a hole in the fuckin rocks under the dust will they? :rolleyes"




NASA have never offered any explanation whatsoever for the numerous
errors in the photographs, despite repeated questioning.
These errors include:
The Apollo 11 pictures show the ground in the distance being much darker
than the ground in the foreground, as if the Astronauts were standing in
a pool of light.



What the fuck are you talking about. If you are going to paste stuff then paste something comprehensible. Or try using your own brain to interpret it. Or post an example picture...this is all bullshit until you back it up with something specific.



Several photos show evidence of extra lighting (as a professional photographer
would use fill-in lights) but no such lights were supposed to have been
used.



Yeah where is this "evidence"? And are you a professional photogropher or an amateur one?




Some photos clearly show the light coming from "impossible"
angles. In one instance, Aldrin's boot is lit from below as he descends
the ladder.


Ever heard of REFLECTION? And where is this fuckin pic anyway?



Some photos contradict the TV camera pictures of the same events.

Some photos of one astronaut taken by the other are clearly taken from
slightly above the eye level of the subject, but in his visor, the reflection
of the astronaut with the camera shows it being held at chest level.

The length of the shadows in the Apollo 12 pictures don't agree with
the angle which the Sun should have been at.


The vizors are fuckin WARPED and provide panoramic reflections. And where is this pic? Let me guess...you got no clue cuz you pasted all this from somewhere in 5 minutes.




Some wide area photos show shadows pointing in different directions.

In the sound recording of the lunar landing, you cannot hear the sound
of the engines. As the astronaut calls out the remaining distance to the
surface, he is only a few feet away from a rocket engine which should have
been producing 10000 lb of thrust.



Firstly ,it wasnt a live feed was it? They have everything on TV time delayed by a few seconds. And secondly you fucktard the capsule was SEALED AIRTIGHT. And also 90% of the "noise" fromt he rocket engines would not travel in the atmosphere cuz guess what genius, there is no atmosphere on the moon so "sound" doesnt exist in the first place.


when the control room asked a question to the Astronoughts the replies were instant with no delays. This seems strange as even with technology in the 1990's there is a delay from satellite links from the UK to the US. There is about a 0.7 second delay from London to California so how is it possible for instant replies from the Moon ?
There is also evidence that when people go into space that there voice goes tense although the Astronaughts voices have been analyzed and found to be normal, and 7/10 people said it sounded like someone reading from a script.



They had supposedly been in space for fuckin DAYS. And also, were these live feeds? No! Can you provide a link that says these were live in the first place?




When Houston are talking to the module you should not be able to hear the
responses at least when the module is landing and the infamous "eagle has landed" quote, this is due to the noise that should have been created by the rocket motor which generates several hundred thousand pounds of thrust 20 ft below the astronaughts. The noise would have completely drowned
the vocals out.

An American author has researched and found out that he believes the Apollo Spacecraft would have needed to be two meters thick to prevent cosmic radiation from cooking the Astronaughts inside.
Also in addition to the radiation protection for the astronaughts similar protection would be required for the films + cameras, NASA's official explanation of how the films were protected was that the cameras were painted with a coat of aluminum paint,
yeah right.

There is no sound on the moon cuz there is no AIR. All the sounds would be created and heard in pressurized places like the interior of the capsule and the space suits themselves.

Fucktard...do you even understand ANY of the stuff you copy and pasted? Or are you going by "blind faith"?

[Rishi_TEX]

They TEASED him. Is someone serious when they tease? :no:



Houston. Ever heard of remote control? :rolloyes:



Armstrong did, cameras can be attached to space suits you know.



The joints were specially made to bend. And the suits were MADE to keep pressure in, just like in space walks. This is such fuckin bullshit.



They were on TV...cant that be seen from earth. And you fuckin idiot, how can you light a magnesium flare without an OXYGEN in the atmosphere? :smack:



Show us that damn pic you king of copy and paste, there must have been cameras attached to the suits and have you heard of TRIPODs? They have them here on earth too. :rolleyes:



Get the picture. You are just mindlessly pasting stuff at random. And theres at least TWO light sources on the moon, one being from the earth itself which will shine a lot more than the moon shines on the earth at night.



"The light" just refers to one source of light. And the starts are in the sky?



No traces? A lack of a crater doesnt mean no traces. The fuckin landed on ROCK for fucks sakes, so the blasts will just scuff some moon dust away but not bore a hole in the fuckin rocks under the dust will they? :rolleyes"



What the fuck are you talking about. If you are going to paste stuff then paste something comprehensible. Or try using your own brain to interpret it. Or post an example picture...this is all bullshit until you back it up with something specific.



Yeah where is this "evidence"? And are you a professional photogropher or an amateur one?



Ever heard of REFLECTION? And where is this fuckin pic anyway?



The vizors are fuckin WARPED and provide panoramic reflections. And where is this pic? Let me guess...you got no clue cuz you pasted all this from somewhere in 5 minutes.



Firstly ,it wasnt a live feed was it? They have everything on TV time delayed by a few seconds. And secondly you fucktard the capsule was SEALED AIRTIGHT. And also 90% of the "noise" fromt he rocket engines would not travel in the atmosphere cuz guess what genius, there is no atmosphere on the moon so "sound" doesnt exist in the first place.



They had supposedly been in space for fuckin DAYS. And also, were these live feeds? No! Can you provide a link that says these were live in the first place?


There is no sound on the moon cuz there is no AIR. All the sounds would be created and heard in pressurized places like the interior of the capsule and the space suits themselves.

Fucktard...do you even understand ANY of the stuff you copy and pasted? Or are you going by "blind faith"?


lolll LEON_007 is known for his copy pasting methods....he tries to be smart by pasting paragraphs of "eternal truth" .....this guy is a complete idiot

[The Anti Desi]

Methodman....or anyone else arguing the moon landing issue....


Get a separate thread for this subject. Refute the responses in that thread. No more posts on that subject.

[Street_Scholar]

Methodman....or anyone else arguing the moon landing issue....


Get a separate thread for this subject. Refute the responses in that thread. No more posts on that subject.


I agree, its such a trivial topic.

[Street_Scholar]

LoL

Ya'll are all morons...

The ones with all these idiotic ideas and the ones entertaining them...

:idea:


Would you like to expand on that?

[Street_Scholar]

Did you know a race of GIANTS built Stonehenge?

[Space-Cowboy]

Did you know a race of GIANTS built Stonehenge?


WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT???????????

[The Anti Desi]

Did you know a race of GIANTS built Stonehenge?
And now we got another subject to argue :|

[Street_Scholar]

WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT???????????


Yes, its true. I know it sounds far-fetched. However just believe me, as a Buddhist would say.

[Space-Cowboy]

Yes, its true. I know it sounds far-fetched. However just believe me, as a Buddhist would say.


uhh, no, for the love of God, plz direct me to a website or an article............

[Street_Scholar]

uhh, no, for the love of God, plz direct me to a website or an article............


http://www.paranormality.com/earth_giants.shtml

http://www.s8int.com/giants1.html

http://www.stevequayle.com/Giants/N.Am/hidden.proofs.giant.race.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3120950.stm

[jdmdrfitertim]

And now we got another subject to argue :|

ahahhahah

and damn leon u got owned

[Street_Scholar]

Anti-Desi, just split the topics later on if they get too big. But I think the dinosaur argument has dryad out.

[SSSash]

Also even humans at the very early stage of human life on earth were massive, about the same size if houses or possibly even bigger. There were also normal sized people too. However, hundreds of remains of giant people have been unearthed proving without a doubt that giants did live on earth.

if ur referring to that 'discovery' in the middle east last year of giant human like bones, then sorry to break to u but it was fake!

[dj XeNo]

you guys are forgetting that even the family guy creators know that the moon landing was a fake!

[bad_cheque]

^above comment kinda made me chuckle...but then again...ive never seen dinosaur bones getting dug up in person with my own eyes

so whats your take on it?

Dionosaurus?

Didn't they teach you to give the whole name?

Its Celine Dionosaurus.













PS: I know I am funny that way :)

[Leon 007]

.....

[chocolat]

you guys are forgetting that even the family guy creators know that the moon landing was a fake!

yeah, because cartoons are reliable sources of scientific information.

[chocolat]

Leon_007

http://pirlwww.lpl.arizona.edu/~jscotti/NOT_faked/
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast23feb_2.htm
http://liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov/News/2001/News-MoonLanding.asp

[methodman535]

lolll LEON_007 is known for his copy pasting methods....he tries to be smart by pasting paragraphs of "eternal truth" .....this guy is a complete idiot

:kekeke:

[methodman535]

fuck you, you lame ass piece of shit you couldnt even give me one clue to throw these theories out the window. I bet you believe in santa too dick turd.

I gave you plenty of clues you shit for brains copy and pasting moron. But you obviously dont even understand the science behind the theories themselves dipshit cuz when I challenged you to be even SLIGHTLY original on even ONE of the points your poophead had a brain fart and you started crying about it.

[methodman535]

For y'all arguin about the moon landing.......

Please do so in another post. This thread is about the dinosaur issue. Though the issue has digressed to the issue about the moon landing, it is not the topic of this thread.

Ladies and Gentlemen. This is your new captain method man speaking. Our new heading is the sea of tranquility on the moon. Muahahaha.

[methodman535]

Leon_007

http://pirlwww.lpl.arizona.edu/~jscotti/NOT_faked/
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast23feb_2.htm
http://liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov/News/2001/News-MoonLanding.asp


Dammit you ruined all the fun. I was actually waiting for the shithead to start arguing more deeply. :rant:

[Leon 007]

......

[Leon 007]

Dammit you ruined all the fun. I was actually waiting for the shithead to start arguing more deeply. :rant:
fuck you, you fuckin prick

[methodman535]

go suck bushes dick your obviously good at that

Go take it up the ass from bush, you obviously are better at that ******.

[Leon 007]

Go take it up the ass from bush, you obviously are better at that ******.
:rant: :rant: :fawk: :madfawk:

[chocolat]

:rant: :rant: :fawk: :madfawk:

Yeah, so did you look at those links?

[ShivaChrist]

[B]Its reputable as a right wing pro govt anti liberal mouthpiece. I mean...do you really have to stretch your imagination to its outer limits to just ASSUME for a minute that fox would spread bullshit so that idiotic morons like leon pick up on it and make asses of themselves? Isnt that victory for fox and the neocons?

I'm not gonna make a claim about Leon eitherway, all I know is that Fox has had some questionable programs in the past...... but then again, with the exception of CNN, I can't really expect any of the other U.S. tv news media outlets to be anything short of utter crap.


I personally like Fox news... they have a lot of shows where there is one liberal arguing with one conservative... sure, the conservative usually gets in the last word, but damn, what does Fox have to do to make people think they are less-biased, get rid of the conservative debater all together? lol

[Street_Scholar]

I personally like Fox news... they have a lot of shows where there is one liberal arguing with one conservative... sure, the conservative usually gets in the last word, but damn, what does Fox have to do to make people think they are less-biased, get rid of the conservative debater all together? lol


Lol, FOX news is so shit, and right-wing its fucking ridiculous, I wouldn't be surprised if one-day all of the team comes pissed off Budweiser and starts waving little American flags and singing Budweiser fueled patriotic songs.

[Space-Cowboy]

I personally like Fox news... they have a lot of shows where there is one liberal arguing with one conservative... sure, the conservative usually gets in the last word, but damn, what does Fox have to do to make people think they are less-biased, get rid of the conservative debater all together? lol


Meh..... I suppose I can clearly see the difference [or at least see it MORE clearly] when I watch Fox as compared to the Canadian Broadcasting Corp. [CBC]...




BBC is not bad either I guess....

[methodman535]

I personally like Fox news... they have a lot of shows where there is one liberal arguing with one conservative... sure, the conservative usually gets in the last word, but damn, what does Fox have to do to make people think they are less-biased, get rid of the conservative debater all together? lol

It all looks staged. They hire wussy types of liberals and have a staged verbal pounding that gives a rush to all the neocon types that watch fox like its their religion.