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adren@line
October 24th, 2005, 02:18 AM
I am genuinely interested as to what non-Hindus/Muslims think are the faults of flaws of Hindus and Hinduism.

And no, this isnt flamebait.
I will (probably) not bash Islam in this thread

This is a genuine inquiry.

:!:

sharthap
October 24th, 2005, 02:44 AM
in a nutshell, non-Hindus believe:

1) Hindus are polytheists.
2) Hindus commit shirk by making thousands of differents forms and images of God.
3) Hindus commit shirk by way of idolatry.
4) Hindus commit shirk by way of praying to animals.
5) Hindu scriptures are not divinely inspired, and are hence as good as BS.

I know....its nice of me to reply in detail to a question whose answer you know only too well.

adren@line
October 24th, 2005, 02:45 AM
I know....its nice of me to reply in detail to a question whose answer you know only too well.
lol.

true.

Muslima786
October 24th, 2005, 03:11 AM
in a nutshell, non-Hindus believe:

1) Hindus are polytheists.
2) Hindus commit shirk by making thousands of differents forms and images of God.
3) Hindus commit shirk by way of idolatry.
4) Hindus commit shirk by way of praying to animals.
5) Hindu scriptures are not divinely inspired, and are hence as good as BS.

I know....its nice of me to reply in detail to a question whose answer you know only too well.
i concur.

add to that

Hinduism is not a compartmentalized form of a belief system

it relys more on tradition then scriptures

the dehumanizing caste system

the Manu smirti

adren@line
October 24th, 2005, 03:20 AM
5) Hindu scriptures are not divinely inspired, and are hence as good as BS.

I know....its nice of me to reply in detail to a question whose answer you know only too well.
actualy, I just read that and it is the claim of mainstream Hindu scholars that the Vedas are divinely inspired and are timeless.

But I dont think most Hindus give a crap about that really.

dyaus
October 24th, 2005, 03:36 AM
i concur.

add to that

Hinduism is not a compartmentalized form of a belief system

it relys more on tradition then scriptures

the dehumanizing caste system

the Manu smirti

but Manu smirti is outdated and isnt followed.

:neutral:

Muslima786
October 24th, 2005, 03:38 AM
but Manu smirti is outdated and isnt followed.

:neutral:
and thats another flaw

how does scripture esp a supreme law book such as the Manu Smirti become outdated in a religion...

ShivaChrist
October 24th, 2005, 03:39 AM
5) Hindu scriptures are not divinely inspired, and are hence as good as BS.


Like any of the holy books are.

dyaus
October 24th, 2005, 03:42 AM
but Manu smirti is outdated and isnt followed.

:neutral:

oops haha.

I meant to say it is flawed.

:eek:

adren@line
October 24th, 2005, 03:44 AM
and thats another flaw

how does scripture esp a supreme law book such as the Manu Smirti become outdated in a religion...
because the Government of India is a secular democracy that doesnt base its laws on ancient codes of law that were applicable in Indian society 1000's of years ago.


Manu smirti isnt a religious book.
Laws and codes change with the times.

sharthap
October 24th, 2005, 03:44 AM
Like any of the holy books are.

BLASPHEMY!!!

:Punch:

sky_
October 24th, 2005, 03:46 AM
This is an Interesting Topic
Im gonna have a think and come back to this

:think:

sharthap
October 24th, 2005, 03:46 AM
i concur.

add to that

Hinduism is not a compartmentalized form of a belief system

it relys more on tradition then scriptures

the dehumanizing caste system

the Manu smirti

teehee, she musta wet herself on seeing my list, which she took at face value.

adren@line
October 24th, 2005, 03:46 AM
This is an Interesting Topic
Im gonna have a think and come back to this

:think:

werd.

Muslima786
October 24th, 2005, 03:47 AM
teehee, she musta wet herself on seeing my list, which she took at face value.
somebody got dick-hurt over this.

adren@line
October 24th, 2005, 03:48 AM
teehee, she musta wet herself on seeing my list, which she took at face value.

eh bro, I cant believe I am saying this, but no flaming please.........yet.

:)

adren@line
October 24th, 2005, 03:49 AM
somebody got dick-hurt over this.

you too...

:mad:

sharthap
October 24th, 2005, 03:52 AM
eh bro, I cant believe I am saying this, but no flaming please.........yet.

:)

darnit...

on some issues, with some people...even when its true, its flame.

:neutral:

Muslima786
October 24th, 2005, 03:57 AM
because the Government of India is a secular democracy that doesnt base its laws on ancient codes of law that were applicable in Indian society 1000's of years ago.


Manu smirti isnt a religious book.
Laws and codes change with the times.


government of India...stay on topic.

manu smirti is not a religious book...how convienient. the manus were sanctioned by the Rig Vedas. The Brahamin school of thought accept this as a divine book of law. anyways like i said Hinduism is not a compartmentalized form of a belief system...you have many branches intercrossing each other. too convoluted for my taste.

adren@line
October 24th, 2005, 04:11 AM
I am staying on topic.

You called it a supreme law book (which it was (a law book)), and the laws that the vast majority of Hindus follow are prescribed the Indian Goverment.


manu smirti is not a religious book...

it isnt.

It is, however, a book that is attached to Hinduism because it is attached to ancient Hindu civilization.

It is a book of codes and laws.


how convienient. the manus were sanctioned by the Rig Vedas

And the Manu code was written in 200AD.
The Vedas were written in 2000-1500 BC.

either way, most Hindus dont follow it or even know what it is.
But if you analyze by itself, there isnt much to like about it.

adren@line
November 3rd, 2005, 12:04 AM
anyone else?

Space-Cowboy
November 3rd, 2005, 12:43 AM
i concur.

add to that

Hinduism is not a compartmentalized form of a belief system

it relys more on tradition then scriptures

the dehumanizing caste system

the Manu smirti


Don't go bashing religions you know nothing about... I can pull up THOUSANDS of things wrong with yours...... I WON'T, cuz that's Adren's job... :p

Space-Cowboy
November 3rd, 2005, 12:50 AM
Hinduism is a PHILOSOPHY, it's a way of life, not just a religion. At the core of Hinduism, lies its Spirituality: Vedism

In my humble opinion Vedism, [the arcane scriptures, which speak of the Oversoul in it's pure state, without bringing in the 'deities'] IS PERFECT.

BC_Broad
November 3rd, 2005, 04:47 AM
i concur.

add to that

Hinduism is not a compartmentalized form of a belief system

it relys more on tradition then scriptures

the dehumanizing caste system

the Manu smirti

LOL! pot? kettle?

Geezer
November 3rd, 2005, 05:51 AM
and thats another flaw

how does scripture esp a supreme law book such as the Manu Smirti become outdated in a religion...

Think of it as primary and secondary scriptures. Manu Shruti are said to be the word of god, that which is heard whereas Manu Smriti are additions, compiled by humans, ie that which is remembered. Since the Smriti were written by humans, it becomes outdated with the change of time and therefore needs to be changed by a religious authority. But the shruti is unquestionably unchanged.

adren@line
November 3rd, 2005, 02:09 PM
chillax people.

people are supposed to tell us what they dont like about it. :dunno:

:scratch:

Space-Cowboy
December 13th, 2005, 01:29 AM
chillax people.

people are supposed to tell us what they dont like about it. :dunno:

:scratch:


What's not to like.... Hinduism is perfect.