God's Love Toward a Radical Muslim

[adren@line]

God's Love Toward a Radical Muslim

by Mohd. Saleem
http://www.everystudent.com/wires/radical.html


I am no more than an ordinary man who has been spending life as if knowing nothing. I was born in a wealthy Muslim family in Pakistan, but when I was a few months old, I was carried to Saudi Arabia by my father. When I was about six, my mom passed away. As I grew older I had so many questions like almost everyone experiences at some point in life. Why am I here? Where did I come from? Is there really a God and if so where is He? Why doesn't He talk?

I have been studying the Quran since I was around 12. Later I also started reading other kinds of Islamic books like the Life of Prophet Mohammad, Hadiths, etc. I have been Wahabi or Ahlae Hadiths like most of the Saudi Muslims are. (Osama Bin Laden is also one of them.) They are very extreme and I have been one also.

I had been taught that Islam is the only way to Heaven. I was told, "If you do this, you'll get so and so blessings in Heaven," and "if you do that, you'll get so and so blessings in Heaven." I became an extremist for the religion Islam.

Well, I believed what I was doing was right, and if it is right, then there is no risk in digging. I had read about the prophets in the Quran and Hadiths, but Jesus Christ was the only personality that really touched me more than any others. I found out that Christians believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God. I very much wondered why they believe that. I started searching for Jesus Christ more and more. I had a Christian friend who used to study with me. I asked him one day if I could have his Bible. He was surprised and said "Sorry, you cannot have it." I assured him no one would ever know, "It will remain between me and you." But my father came to know that I read the Bible and that it was in our home. He was very angry and he knew I have only one Christian friend. So he took me with my uncle to this friend's home and warned them saying, "If you do this again and try to preach Christianity to a Muslim child, you'll have to suffer a lot and you know it. We will complain about it to Islamic Police (Mutawa) and you could be exiled from this country forever." I was a bit worried. I shouldn't have done this to my friend's family.

My father warned me, and so did my uncle, to pray five times a day as I used to pray, and one time in the mosque. I kept going, and many times when there was no one in the mosque I used to cry and ask God to show me, "who is this Jesus and who are you?" Often while the Imam (leader) of the prayer was praying in Arabic (as it's compulsory to pray in Arabic only), I did not give much attention to what he was saying. One day I was praying in the Mosque, during Zuhar's prayer (noon prayer). I wasn't thinking of Jesus Christ that time. I saw an image of a handsome person on the floor where we bow our heads in prayer. I was shocked. I never saw such a thing before. It was kind of an image on water. I heard in myself that this is Jesus Christ. This is the Lord!

[adren@line]

I was worried what and how could that be, as I have learned in the Quran that God is only one, yet Christians take Jesus as the Son of God and also call Him God. This is the greatest sin which God can never forgive. I could not leave without completing my prayer just for this reason. So I completed it and began thinking about it later. My hunger to know about Jesus Christ grew more and more.

I did not have a Bible with me anymore. One day I was passing with a friend through shops and I came to an internet shop. I was on the Net on yahoo.com and there came a thought in my mind: type "Who Is Jesus?" I did, and got lots of web sites. I was amazed that I could search about Jesus Christ there.

A web site provided very nice information about who Jesus is, and prophecies about Him in the Old Testament, and how amazingly they are fulfilled in the New Testament.

I was very much amazed. I never knew how and why to accept Jesus Christ. I was very happy to visit this site. I kept coming to this web site often. Some of the other Christian web sites were blocked as you may know very well. One day I thought of giving Jesus a try and so I said the salvation prayer on their web site. After that I also started thinking, "Did I do the greatest sin? I will never ever get to heaven," and so on.

I also had been seeing that same image of Jesus Christ often when I used to go in the Mosque to pray. One day I was walking toward a market using a short cut. It's a bit lonely area. Not many people cross through there. I was walking and had been thinking and asking God if what I was doing was right and should I be Christian or Muslim? I heard a voice behind me saying "My son, you are on the right path." I was again amazed. I had never had experienced these kinds of things.

But in all I had been going through, I became happier when I came to know the Holy Bible, which says many things. For example it says,
"Whether you turn to the right or to the left, your ears will hear a voice behind you saying, 'This is the way; walk in it.'"1

And it says,
"For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart."2

God has been faithful to me!

I had learned in the Quran that our first parents, Adam and Eve, were living in Paradise until they committed sin. (This is the same in the Bible.) But in the Quran I was told they were forgiven of their sins. I asked my Muslim friends, "If they were forgiven of their sin, then why did God being so merciful and gracious make them leave the garden? Does it mean He did not forgive them?"

If, according to the Quran, the Torah (Pentateuch), Zabur (Psalms) and Injeel (Gospels) are the Word of God, then how can they change? If they have changed, as many Islamic scholars say, then who changed them and why? They claim that the Bible has changed and they feel so happy in that, but to know the truth we need to be humble and seek to find out if everything we believe is really true. Where would I be if I did not search my Bible and ask God's guidance for my life? The God of the Bible replies like no other! That is reality!

[adren@line]

In the Quran it says that some revelations are abolished or forgotten.3

What does that mean? In fact it's exactly the opposite in the Bible.

In the Torah, Numbers 23:19,
"God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a son of man, that he should change his mind."

And in Zabur (Psalms) 31:5,
"Into your hands I commit my spirit; redeem me, O LORD, the God of truth."

And in Injeel (the Gospel of John) 17:17,
"Sanctify them by the truth; your word is truth."

Never did I find a single verse in the Bible saying that God lies or that He changes His verses and leads people astray.

Many measures and efforts have been taken to destroy the Bible from this earth but they have never been successful. That proves that God who revealed knows very well how to keep it protected. I challenge all who say that the Bible has changed to prove it to me with evidence. Hundreds of scientist have studied it and have confirmed its clarity and what has been written.

The prophecies made in the Bible are being fulfilled in our very day. These are some of the most amazing things and confirm who is the author of this book. The very creator of this world knows what is going to happen tomorrow and the coming days. He does not predict it like a psychic but knows it!


It's also amazing to understand the differences between Jesus and Mohammad. In the Bible it says:
"In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God!"4

Why is Jesus Christ called the Word of God, but nothing is mentioned about Mohammad as such?

Also, why was Jesus Christ faultless and without sin, whereas Mohammad was touched by Satan and lead a sinful life? Many times in the Quran, Mohammad is reminded of repenting his sins. Every Muslim who reads the Quran with understanding knows it very well.

The Bible also says Jesus Christ did miracles and did many other things which no one except God can do. Why did God allow Him to do these things which only He did...things like giving life to death, and healing the sick? Why?

Why did Mohammad never do that? Despite many people of his time asking for miracles he refused. But one miracle is recorded in the Quran that he parted the moon in two. What benefit did it bring to humanity?

Before Jesus Christ was born, angels were sent to announce the noble birth of a faultless son through a virgin. But Mohammad being the greatest of Prophets in Islam does not have that much privilege? Why is nothing similar said for Mohammad?

If God really was able to make a virgin give birth, then why would it be difficult for Him to call Him His Son?

The Quran tells that there will be a revelation for mankind and mercy5 -- revelation and mercy to all mankind even after Mohammad. Why? Why is it ordained? What kind of mercy to the world? The Quran does not answer that. Muslims will have to read the Injeel (Gospel) to find out about God's mercy for mankind.

In the Injeel (Gospel), Mark 10:46-47, one blind man cries out to the Lord Jesus Christ saying:
A blind man, Bartimaeus, was sitting by the roadside begging. When he heard that it was Jesus of Nazareth, he began to shout, "Jesus, Son of David, have mercy on me!"

[adren@line]

Also in the New Testament:
"Keep yourselves in God's love as you wait for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to bring you to eternal life."6

"Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! In His great mercy he has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead."7

The Lord Jesus Christ is not the mercy that was meant for people of His time or of His area only. God made Him Mercy for ALL MANKIND EVEN AFTER MOHAMMAD.

We know from the Bible that we are sinners and away from the Lord. Jesus Christ is the only provision for us to reconcile us with the Lord, because He was sinless and became sin for our sake. Our sins were transferred to Him.

Jesus Christ bore our sins and became sin for us. In Injeel (Gospel), it says:
"She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus, because he will save his people from their sins."8

To many other people, He said "your sins are forgiven" indicating He wants them to be saved from sins! He bore their sins!

Also from the New Testament:
"God made Him (Jesus) who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in Him we might become the righteousness of God."9

Many people have found God's mercy in the Lord Christ and have been changed. One of them is me. Many look for the miracles, authority, Truth and only truth in the wrong places, and I also have been doing so, until I met Him, the only One who not only knows the way to God but Himself is The Way. In Jesus' very words:

Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well. From now on, you do know Him and have seen Him."10

Mohammad and Muslims have been praying every day many times in their much-devoted prayers for guidance, and amazingly the last and greatest of Islam's Prophet kept praying for it till his death.11

Was Mohammad on the straight path? Is Islam the straight path? I encourage all Muslims to ask him or herself is it really true what they are doing to get to heaven?

I do not believe heaven is a place with a price tag on it, which can be bought by our deeds, but only through God's Mercy and grace. I pray God will give hunger in each of us more each day and we will turn to Him for our Spiritual food and our salvation! It is made so simple like never before. Come to Him with a humble heart. Seek His Face and find yourself in His arms!

We become a new creation in Christ. It was written long ago, but today it is still true! How our minds and our thoughts change because the One who created us knows how to fill that missing gap and to reinstall our spiritual life in the Lord Jesus Christ who is the only Way to Him! So Brothers and sisters, open your hearts and minds to accept His amazing Love. Allow the Lord Jesus Christ into your life and see what happens next. The greatest adventure in the Universe begins. Whenever I have been in trouble He has been there and comforted me like no one ever could. He has shown me that He's alive forever and He loves us very much. I praise and thank God for sending His Son the Lord Jesus Christ to die for me and for all of us, and making the marvelous and glorious bridge to reach Him! To understand how to begin a relationship with Him, please see: Getting Connected.

1Isaiah 30:21
2Jeremiah 29:11-13
3Surah Al-Baqara 2:106
4(Injeel) John 1:1
5Surah Maryam 21
6Jude 21
71 Peter 1:3
8Injeel (the Gospel), Matthew 1:21
92 Corinthians 5:21
10John 14:6
11Surah Al Fateha 3

[adren@line]

Whats funny is that I got the link from one of the ads off of the forum.

:)

[sharthap]

c'mon adren...you of all people should see that the authenticity of this article is most dubious.

indeed there may be numerous muslim converts to christianity, but this article barely does a credible job of coming accross as the original testimony of one such convert.

[adren@line]

probably... but its a good sh*t starter none-the-less.
..and its from Sameer's very own ad system.

:)

[adren@line]

the funniest part is

also had been seeing that same image of Jesus Christ often when I used to go in the Mosque to pray. One day I was walking toward a market using a short cut. It's a bit lonely area. Not many people cross through there. I was walking and had been thinking and asking God if what I was doing was right and should I be Christian or Muslim? I heard a voice behind me saying "My son, you are on the right path." I was again amazed. I had never had experienced these kinds of things.

LOL.

[sharthap]

the funniest part is

also had been seeing that same image of Jesus Christ often when I used to go in the Mosque to pray. One day I was walking toward a market using a short cut. It's a bit lonely area. Not many people cross through there. I was walking and had been thinking and asking God if what I was doing was right and should I be Christian or Muslim? I heard a voice behind me saying "My son, you are on the right path." I was again amazed. I had never had experienced these kinds of things.

LOL.

you're just jealous coz you haven't received the calling to salvation.

:rah:

[ShivaChrist]

Um... how did it end? I was actually reading it till I finally got bored and my eyes began to wander about lol

[sharthap]

Um... how did it end? I was actually reading it till I finally got bored and my eyes began to wander about lol

it ends with him playing a harp on cloud 96,846.

[Cunard]

i was about to move this too until the author said that the article is from an ad on RD.....im going to assume that the ad and its content were approved by this site first

so....if this article gets flamed...it will be locked and moved :eek:

[Z4K5T4R]

i was about to move this too until the author said that the article is from an ad on RD.....im going to assume that the ad and its content were approved by this site first

so....if this article gets flamed...it will be locked and moved :eek:
you're sad you think twice before moving this but if it was about your religion you wouldnt think twice.

[Z4K5T4R]

I've got a Bible that am going to read soon i went to a christian school my parents didnt say anything

[Cunard]

you're sad you think twice before moving this but if it was about your religion you wouldnt think twice.

wow...trouble reading english or what?


the article is from an ad on RD.....im going to assume that the ad and its content were approved by this site first

so....if this article gets flamed...it will be locked and moved

[Z4K5T4R]

wow...trouble reading english or what?*assume* usualy means you're not sure maybe you should go back and check and then when the information has been clarified that it is from an ad on RD then consider deleting it. Seems like you don't give two shits.

[FatGeezer]

i was about to move this too until the author said that the article is from an ad on RD.....im going to assume that the ad and its content were approved by this site first

so....if this article gets flamed...it will be locked and moved :eek:

so have all the porn ads that been popping up on RD recently been approved too then?

[Cunard]

*assume* usualy means you're not sure maybe you should go back and check and then when the information has been clarified that it is from an ad on RD then consider deleting it. Seems like you don't give two shits.


adren@line is always very careful around things like this......reason why I and RD Admin has not banned him

i trust him..he has done nothing that would make me question that he is lying

and your right...i dont give two shits since there is nothing wrong here :idea:

[Cunard]

so have all the porn ads that been popping up on RD recently been approved too then?

im on rd at least twice a day...once in the morning, once at night and i havnt come across these "porn" pop ups

so i have no idea what your talking about

ive mentioned it to admin......they can deal with however they see fit

[FatGeezer]

im on rd at least twice a day...once in the morning, once at night and i havnt come across these "porn" pop ups

so i have no idea what your talking about

ive mentioned it to admin......they can deal with however they see fit

theres been numerous posts on them with pictures and pointers.

hydro made a thread about it and a couple of other people have too.

Guess you need to brush up on your "surveillance" skills Mr Moderator

[FatGeezer]

adren@line is always very careful around things like this......reason why I and RD Admin has not banned him

i trust him..he has done nothing that would make me question that he is lying

and your right...i dont give two shits since there is nothing wrong here :idea:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


By saying stupid comments like that youre just losing your own credibility to be a mod. Anyways, your rep not mine...!

[Cunard]

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


By saying stupid comments like that youre just losing your own credibility to be a mod. Anyways, your rep not mine...!

fact remains..he is very careful with what he says.....he knows how to push buttons, but he hardly ever flames....usually its the people that respond to his opinions that start flaming

voicing different opinions is not sensored here......how you voice them is

[FatGeezer]

fact remains..he is very careful with what he says.....he knows how to push buttons, but he hardly ever flames....usually its the people that respond to his opinions that start flaming

voicing different opinions is not sensored here......how you voice them is


Oh yes, and his obvious intended misrepresentation of quranic verses in his sig wasnt flame.. :kekeke:

You just lost some more credibility dude....

[Cunard]

Oh yes, and his obvious intended misrepresentation of quranic verses in his sig wasnt flame.. :kekeke:

You just lost some more credibility dude....

no different then "ban Israel" sigs which i actually defended to be left in sigs

in the end both sides had to remove there sigs

[FatGeezer]

no different then "ban Israel" sigs which i actually defended to be left in sigs

in the end both sides had to remove there sigs

NO. COMPLETELY different.

ONE was a POLITICAL statement against a COUNTRY. It didnt say "BAN JEWS" and did not show disrespect. It merely aired an opinion.

The other was a INTENDED MISREPRESENTATION of what is considered to sacred in a RELIGION and was complete LACK of respect.

The EQUIVALENT of the latter would have been if an out of context verse of the Torah or the Vedas had been quoted in order to slander the respective religions.

If you cant see the difference between the two then im sorry but you really are a lost cause....


You lot are so-anti muslim but still such cowards that you dont admit it. If you really were as mighty and brave as you make yourselves out to be youd air your opinions freely instead of trying to justify it with stupid non-comparative arguments. At least adren@line says openly what he beleives, for THAT he holds more credibility in my books than YOU ever will Mr PC.


You just lost even more credibility. Keep going...

[FatGeezer]

haha! how funny, NOW it gets moved to "useless junk & flame" :kekeke:

[Space-Cowboy]

I have a better idea.........


Make ME a Mod........

:firedevi:

[FatGeezer]

I have a better idea.........


Make ME a Mod........

:firedevi:

im thinking of starting a petition to get cunard de-modded. check out his nonsense comments in the "car got scraped thread". he reckons insurance law is the same the world over!

http://forums.ratedesi.com/showthread.php?t=114715

[Street_Scholar]

fact remains..he is very careful with what he says.....he knows how to push buttons, but he hardly ever flames....usually its the people that respond to his opinions that start flaming

voicing different opinions is not sensored here......how you voice them is


Ohhhhhhhhhh yeah sure he is. Like he made stuff uo about how Arabs oppressed Indians when they conquered India. Actually, I can prove him wrong right, however I'm not going to yet.

[Space-Cowboy]

Is there anyone on the forums who's either an Insurance Expert...... or a Law Major? :neutral:

[Adnan786]

Is there anyone on the forums who's either an Insurance Expert...... or a Law Major? :neutral:


i used to sell income protection, critical illness and life insurance policies :neutral:

[Space-Cowboy]

i used to sell income protection, critical illness and life insurance policies :neutral:


I was referring specifically to that thread that FatGeezer linked to. Take a look, it's about some hit and run car accident.

[adren@line]

Ohhhhhhhhhh yeah sure he is. Like he made stuff uo about how Arabs oppressed Indians when they conquered India. Actually, I can prove him wrong right, however I'm not going to yet.

prove it.

I am extremely interested.

I have a mountain of evidence that they did.
I am very curious as to how you can prove all of this wrong, Mr Paki-Defender-of-Arabs-BecauseYouAreMuslim.

[adren@line]

NO. COMPLETELY different.

ONE was a POLITICAL statement against a COUNTRY. It didnt say "BAN JEWS" and did not show disrespect. It merely aired an opinion.

The other was a INTENDED MISREPRESENTATION of what is considered to sacred in a RELIGION and was complete LACK of respect.

The EQUIVALENT of the latter would have been if an out of context verse of the Torah or the Vedas had been quoted in order to slander the respective religions.

If you cant see the difference between the two then im sorry but you really are a lost cause....


You lot are so-anti muslim but still such cowards that you dont admit it. If you really were as mighty and brave as you make yourselves out to be youd air your opinions freely instead of trying to justify it with stupid non-comparative arguments. At least adren@line says openly what he beleives, for THAT he holds more credibility in my books than YOU ever will Mr PC.


You just lost even more credibility. Keep going...

I didnt misinterpret it.
Your Arab Masters Hajaj/Qusam did.

There is nothing respectfull about those verses or the idolater verses either.
They instruct Muslims to basically kill Hindus as applied in India and South Asia (which is exactly what they did when the invaded).

I will never respect those verses and I *will* ridicule them.
But ofcourse Muslims will defend them, regardless of how blatantly violent they are, because alot of them are brainwashed.

:dance3:

[adren@line]

..and this thread was supposed to be funny.

It was obviously fake, but some of you mofos cant take a joke.

:p

[mirchi munda]

..and this thread was supposed to be funny.

It was obviously fake, but some of you mofos cant take a joke.

:p
:ughJit: :jerkit: :squintFa:

[FatGeezer]

I didnt misinterpret it.
Your Arab Masters Hajaj/Qusam did.

There is nothing respectfull about those verses or the idolater verses either.
They instruct Muslims to basically kill Hindus as applied in India and South Asia (which is exactly what they did when the invaded).

I will never respect those verses and I *will* ridicule them.
But ofcourse Muslims will defend them, regardless of how blatantly violent they are, because you guys are brainwashed.

:dance3:


regardless of what u say, cunards a dumb ass mod

[The Anti Desi]

God hates these radical Muslims because they abandoned the Quran.

[FatGeezer]

God hates these radical Muslims because they abandoned the Quran.
god hates hypocrites

[The Anti Desi]

god hates hypocrites
I already knew that.

Thats nothing new.

[adren@line]

lol.

neither one of you (or I) know what God likes, dislikes, loves, hates, or if God even has the attributes of love, hate, etc.

:dance3:

[The Anti Desi]

lol.

neither one of you (or I) know what God likes, dislikes, loves, hates, or if God even has the attributes of love, hate, etc.

:dance3:
Actually....God tells us in his book :|