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Street_Scholar
September 9th, 2005, 07:23 AM
He was the leader of the Ahmadiyya movement he claimed to be a Muslim. He claimed to be a prophet and a better version of Mohammed (pbuh) he made the statements to the effect that cholera is a sign of Allah wrath on mankind for their wrongdoing, then wound up dying in the same manner, is pretty comical. Obviously, that wouldn't be the case if it weren't for his body of words & action as a 'religious leader,' and who he was in general - a heretic & a dajjal who was directly responsible for misleading thousands of individuals about true Islam.

this verse describes the situation so much!!

And who can be more unjust than he who invents a lie against Allah, or says: "I have received inspiration," whereas he is not inspired in anything; and who says, "I will reveal the like of what Allah has revealed." And if you could but see when the wrong-doers are in the agonies of death, while the angels are stretching forth their hands (saying): "Deliver your soul! This day you shall be recompensed with the torment of degradation because of what you used to utter against Allah other than the truth. And you used to reject His signs (revelations) with disrespect!"
(The Holy Quran, Al-Anam, 6:93)



For years, Mirza Ghulam Qadiani attributed outrageous lies to Allah (http://www.irshad.org/glossary.php#Allah)(SWT (http://www.irshad.org/glossary.php#SWT)): he claimed to be Mehdi, the Promised Messiah, a reincarnation of Muhammad (http://www.irshad.org/glossary.php#Muhammad)(SAW (http://www.irshad.org/glossary.php#SAW)), a new improved Prophet, Hindu Lord, and a manifestation of God. He said he was in direct communication with Allah and claimed that his revelations were divine in nature. It is fitting that Allah(SWT) made his death a testimony to his falsehood. His sudden death proved his following prophecies to have been untrue:

His prophecy that he (Mirza) will live to be 80 or more years old (http://www.irshad.org/qadianism/prophecy.php#LongLife);
(He died when he was only 68 year old.)
His prophecy that he would marry Muhammadi Begum (http://www.irshad.org/qadianism/propheca.php), before his death;
(He never did marry Muhammadi Begum.)
The claim (and Mubahala challenge) that Moulvi Sanaullah of Amristar (http://www.irshad.org/exposed/sana.php), his arch opponent who had openly called him a liar and an impostor, will die before him;
("The liar will die first" - Mirza died first!)
His prophecy that Dr. Abdul Hakim (http://www.irshad.org/qadianism/prophecg.php), one of his opponents who had called him a liar during an open debate, will die within Mirza's life time;
(he said "The liar will die first". But, Mirza died first!)
The prophecy (and Mubahala challenge) that Mr. Abdullah Atham (http://www.irshad.org/qadianism/prophecb.php), a Christian who had debated with Mirza Ghulam and put him to shame, will die before him;
(Mirza had said: "the liar will die first" - Yet, Mirza died first!)
His revelation that Allah(SWT) will bestow upon him a great new son (http://www.irshad.org/qadianism/prophecd.php), a sign of Allah(SWT)'s presence and proof of his prophethood;
(Mirza died without having another son.)
His claim that Allah(SWT) had revealed to him (http://www.irshad.org/qadianism/prophecy.php#marriages) that he would marry many more virtuous women;
(After the prophecy, he did not marry anyone else.)
His prophecy that he (Mirza) will marry a widow (http://www.irshad.org/qadianism/prophecy.php#Widow), before his death;
(After the prophecy, he did not marry anyone else.)
His prophecy that he will die in Mekkah or Medina (http://www.irshad.org/qadianism/prophecy.php#Mekkah).
(Mirza died in the city of Lahor; he never saw Mekkah or Medina.)


Bashir Ahmad, the son of Mirza Ghulam, wrote in his biography: "My mother informed me that 'the first attack of looseness of bowels upon the Promised Messiah occurred when he was at his dining room table. Later, I started pressing his legs and he lay in comfort and slept and soon I too slept. After a short while, he again felt the call of nature and he used the bathroom a couple of times without awakening me, After this he felt very weak; he shook me up and laid down on my bed. I recommenced pressing. In a few minutes he told me to go to bed but I refused and continued to press. Once again he had an urge and, being too weak to go to the lavatory, I made arrangement for him close to the bed. He sat down and relieved himself. Next, he laid himself back on my bed and I started pressing again. His weakness grew intense; he had another motion, accompanied this time by vomiting. This paralyzed him so much that when trying to lay back on the bed, he fell on his back and hit his head on the bed post. His condition alarmed me...'."
(Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 1, P. 11-12; Sirat-ul-Mehdi, P.109)


Basically, if you didn't read all that he die while he had the shits he slipped off his own shit a died. lol

anyways, i heard mirza ghulam also labelled the train as being the dajjal...

word on the street is that he got transported to his burial ground on the back of the 'dajjal'... lol

I have qadyani neighbours and everytime the anniversary of his death comes they sit on the toilet for the whole day and try to reenact his death.

pagal.munda
September 9th, 2005, 08:11 AM
okay...what's your point?

[QUOTE=Street_Scholar]Basically, if you didn't read all that he die while he had the shits he slipped off his own shit a died. lol

and how is that funny? laughing at someone who died that way.

Geezer
September 9th, 2005, 08:18 AM
Another junk-thread.

Read the rules: http://forums.ratedesi.com/showthread.php?t=28355

^ if you cant comply to that, you'll either be put in the lamers group which prevents you from making threads or banned.

Street_Scholar
September 9th, 2005, 10:42 AM
okay...what's your point?

[QUOTE=Street_Scholar]Basically, if you didn't read all that he die while he had the shits he slipped off his own shit a died. lol

and how is that funny? laughing at someone who died that way.He was a lair, and the circumstance's surrounding his death are funny, for the reason that he was saying such illness were sent down by god, and infected liars. So going by his logic he most have been a lair for the reason that he died of this illness.

Adz4eva
September 9th, 2005, 10:43 AM
Anyone who spends more then 5 minutes researching into the life of Mirza Ghulam Qadiani can see he was nothing but an imposter.

razr
September 9th, 2005, 11:01 AM
Anyone who spends more then 5 minutes researching into the life of Mirza Ghulam Qadiani can see he was nothing but an imposter.

i would say more closer to 2 mins

infection
September 9th, 2005, 11:16 AM
He was the leader of the Ahmadiyya movement he claimed to be a Muslim. He claimed to be a prophet and a better version of Mohammed (pbuh) he made the statements to the effect that cholera is a sign of Allah wrath on mankind for their wrongdoing, then wound up dying in the same manner, is pretty comical. Obviously, that wouldn't be the case if it weren't for his body of words & action as a 'religious leader,' and who he was in general - a heretic & a dajjal who was directly responsible for misleading thousands of individuals about true Islam.

this verse describes the situation so much!!

And who can be more unjust than he who invents a lie against Allah, or says: "I have received inspiration," whereas he is not inspired in anything; and who says, "I will reveal the like of what Allah has revealed." And if you could but see when the wrong-doers are in the agonies of death, while the angels are stretching forth their hands (saying): "Deliver your soul! This day you shall be recompensed with the torment of degradation because of what you used to utter against Allah other than the truth. And you used to reject His signs (revelations) with disrespect!"
(The Holy Quran, Al-Anam, 6:93)



For years, Mirza Ghulam Qadiani attributed outrageous lies to Allah (http://www.irshad.org/glossary.php#Allah)(SWT (http://www.irshad.org/glossary.php#SWT)): he claimed to be Mehdi, the Promised Messiah, a reincarnation of Muhammad (http://www.irshad.org/glossary.php#Muhammad)(SAW (http://www.irshad.org/glossary.php#SAW)), a new improved Prophet, Hindu Lord, and a manifestation of God. He said he was in direct communication with Allah and claimed that his revelations were divine in nature. It is fitting that Allah(SWT) made his death a testimony to his falsehood. His sudden death proved his following prophecies to have been untrue:

His prophecy that he (Mirza) will live to be 80 or more years old (http://www.irshad.org/qadianism/prophecy.php#LongLife);
(He died when he was only 68 year old.)
His prophecy that he would marry Muhammadi Begum (http://www.irshad.org/qadianism/propheca.php), before his death;
(He never did marry Muhammadi Begum.)
The claim (and Mubahala challenge) that Moulvi Sanaullah of Amristar (http://www.irshad.org/exposed/sana.php), his arch opponent who had openly called him a liar and an impostor, will die before him;
("The liar will die first" - Mirza died first!)
His prophecy that Dr. Abdul Hakim (http://www.irshad.org/qadianism/prophecg.php), one of his opponents who had called him a liar during an open debate, will die within Mirza's life time;
(he said "The liar will die first". But, Mirza died first!)
The prophecy (and Mubahala challenge) that Mr. Abdullah Atham (http://www.irshad.org/qadianism/prophecb.php), a Christian who had debated with Mirza Ghulam and put him to shame, will die before him;
(Mirza had said: "the liar will die first" - Yet, Mirza died first!)
His revelation that Allah(SWT) will bestow upon him a great new son (http://www.irshad.org/qadianism/prophecd.php), a sign of Allah(SWT)'s presence and proof of his prophethood;
(Mirza died without having another son.)
His claim that Allah(SWT) had revealed to him (http://www.irshad.org/qadianism/prophecy.php#marriages) that he would marry many more virtuous women;
(After the prophecy, he did not marry anyone else.)
His prophecy that he (Mirza) will marry a widow (http://www.irshad.org/qadianism/prophecy.php#Widow), before his death;
(After the prophecy, he did not marry anyone else.)
His prophecy that he will die in Mekkah or Medina (http://www.irshad.org/qadianism/prophecy.php#Mekkah).
(Mirza died in the city of Lahor; he never saw Mekkah or Medina.)


Bashir Ahmad, the son of Mirza Ghulam, wrote in his biography: "My mother informed me that 'the first attack of looseness of bowels upon the Promised Messiah occurred when he was at his dining room table. Later, I started pressing his legs and he lay in comfort and slept and soon I too slept. After a short while, he again felt the call of nature and he used the bathroom a couple of times without awakening me, After this he felt very weak; he shook me up and laid down on my bed. I recommenced pressing. In a few minutes he told me to go to bed but I refused and continued to press. Once again he had an urge and, being too weak to go to the lavatory, I made arrangement for him close to the bed. He sat down and relieved himself. Next, he laid himself back on my bed and I started pressing again. His weakness grew intense; he had another motion, accompanied this time by vomiting. This paralyzed him so much that when trying to lay back on the bed, he fell on his back and hit his head on the bed post. His condition alarmed me...'."
(Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 1, P. 11-12; Sirat-ul-Mehdi, P.109)


Basically, if you didn't read all that he die while he had the shits he slipped off his own shit a died. lol

anyways, i heard mirza ghulam also labelled the train as being the dajjal...

word on the street is that he got transported to his burial ground on the back of the 'dajjal'... lol

I have qadyani neighbours and everytime the anniversary of his death comes they sit on the toilet for the whole day and try to reenact his death.

the whole thread was well written it made me laugh... although i dont hate on others faith.. BUT i think Street_Scholar has always contributed somethin interesting and worth my time atleast.. i can post alot of stuff on a variety of things like cooking styles.. automobiles.. inventions.. faiths and practices.. marriagez or even the financial measures of a household both american or desi or paki or indian.. i just get scared of criticism.. thats all .. Hats off to u street Scholar ..

Sweet Miasma
September 9th, 2005, 12:18 PM
I have qadyani neighbours and everytime the anniversary of his death comes they sit on the toilet for the whole day and try to reenact his death.[/left]



wtf? are you serious??? omg

Street_Scholar
September 10th, 2005, 01:50 PM
wtf? are you serious??? omg
It would explain why on that day they do not come outside and I can hear moaning sounds coming from their house...

I_CCC_U
September 10th, 2005, 02:09 PM
dats sooo funnyyy ........in da toilet hahahahahahahhahahahaha i wonder wat dey do in dere errrrrr toilet :sarb:

Nuclear
September 10th, 2005, 08:54 PM
Arent the Ahmadiyya one of the fastest growing movement of Islam.

Adz4eva
September 10th, 2005, 09:02 PM
Arent the Ahmadiyya one of the fastest growing movement of Islam.

Is that suppose to be a joke? :neutral:

Nuclear
September 10th, 2005, 09:48 PM
170 million doesnt sound bad, its nothing compared to the sunnies but still its very big movement dont u think?

Street_Scholar
September 11th, 2005, 09:56 AM
170 million doesnt sound bad, its nothing compared to the sunnies but still its very big movement dont u think?
170 million is fuck all out of a population of 1.6 billion! its not even 2% so in the context its really not a big movement. Also Id like to see a link or something saying its 170 million, I'm not doubting you I'm just generally curious as to where you got that figure from.

FatGeezer
September 11th, 2005, 09:59 AM
170 million is fuck all out of a population of 1.6 billion! its not even 2% so in the context its really not a big movement. Also Id like to see a link or something saying its 170 million, I'm not doubting you I'm just generally curious as to where you got that figure from.


but would 170 million people own up to following a "prophet" who slipped up on his own shit and died?

Street_Scholar
September 11th, 2005, 10:04 AM
Something interesting to note is. The "Muslim Population Organization" rounded the world wide Muslim population to 1.70 billion.

http://www.islamicpopulation.com/

Adz4eva
September 11th, 2005, 10:16 AM
but would 170 million people own up to following a "prophet" who slipped up on his own shit and died?

Thats the thing, whenever you speak to these kind of people they will always try and cover things up, deny things, and contradict eachother and they just make themselves look stupid, you dont even have to do anything!

Street_Scholar
September 11th, 2005, 10:18 AM
but would 170 million people own up to following a "prophet" who slipped up on his own shit and died?
Just stupidness. Although more an more are coming into mainstream Islam.

Z4K5T4R
September 11th, 2005, 10:39 AM
Well only a fool will believe what Mirza Ghulam Qadiani had to say after all the Quran clearly states Hazrat Mohammad (PBUH) was the last prohphet and whoever claims to be a prophet after him is a hypocrite.

Also I doubt Mirza was the Dajjal, would've effected the whole world.

Street_Scholar
September 11th, 2005, 10:42 AM
Well only a fool will believe what Mirza Ghulam Qadiani had to say after all the Quran clearly states Hazrat Mohammad (PBUH) was the last prohphet and whoever claims to be a prophet after him is a hypocrite.

Also I doubt Mirza was the Dajjal, would've effected the whole world.

Lived a dirty life and died a dirty life, literally. (died in his own excrement)

Adz4eva
September 11th, 2005, 10:47 AM
Also I doubt Mirza was the Dajjal, would've effected the whole world.

He wasnt 'the' dajjal but he was one of the lesser dajjals who are mentioned in the hadith, the so-called 'liars' who will appear after the prophet PBUH, claiming themselves to be a prophet. Yep found it...

Abu Hurayrah said, "The Prophet said, "The Hour will not come ... until
nearly 30 "dajjals" (liars) appear, each one claiming to be a messenger
from Allah.'" (Bukhari Muslim.)

Street_Scholar
September 11th, 2005, 10:47 AM
Well only a fool will believe what Mirza Ghulam Qadiani had to say after all the Quran clearly states Hazrat Mohammad (PBUH) was the last prohphet and whoever claims to be a prophet after him is a hypocrite.

Also I doubt Mirza was the Dajjal, would've effected the whole world.

Read all of this: http://www.irshad.org/qadianism/propheca.php

It really cracks me up. Geez he wanted to marry her pretty badly.

icemannn
September 11th, 2005, 10:48 AM
Well only a fool will believe what Mirza Ghulam Qadiani had to say after all the Quran clearly states Hazrat Mohammad (PBUH) was the last prohphet and whoever claims to be a prophet after him is a hypocrite.

Also I doubt Mirza was the Dajjal, would've effected the whole world.
Nah he wasnt THE Dajjal, but A Dajjal (imposter, liar). There supposed to be many dajjals before the main one. We're apparantly living in the Dajjal society at the moment, so that makes us the forerunners to him. Which is kinda scary.

Z4K5T4R
September 11th, 2005, 10:50 AM
icemannn - Didn't know there were 30 lesser Dajjals around. So does Bush fit into that category?

Adz4eva
September 11th, 2005, 10:52 AM
icemannn - Didn't know there were 30 lesser Dajjals around. So does Bush fit into that category?

Not quite, although he is an arrogant little tosspot :) lol, he doesnt claim to be any sort of prophet from God... yet anyway :neutral:

Street_Scholar
September 11th, 2005, 10:53 AM
icemannn - Didn't know there were 30 lesser Dajjals around. So does Bush fit into that category?
Perhaps. However bush is abit too stupid to be a Dajaal.

Z4K5T4R
September 11th, 2005, 10:56 AM
Oh right so you have to claim to be a prophet nah thats something Bush hasnt done. Read few things about The Dajjal and heard from few friends about it anyone know the real story type it short cut for me please cant be asked to read a whole text of it. My mates man said it comes from some cave or something my mate said (dont quote him he wsnt sure that it was a tree located in Irael where he comes from with one eye.

Tell me me your 101% sure about the story

Azan_786
September 11th, 2005, 10:56 AM
how can u be a muslim if u dont believe that Muhammad (PBUH) was the last prophet from Allah (SWAT)???

Street_Scholar
September 11th, 2005, 11:03 AM
Oh right so you have to claim to be a prophet nah thats something Bush hasnt done. Read few things about The Dajjal and heard from few friends about it anyone know the real story type it short cut for me please cant be asked to read a whole text of it. My mates man said it comes from some cave or something my mate said (dont quote him he wsnt sure that it was a tree located in Irael where he comes from with one eye.

Tell me me your 101% sure about the story
His getting the story confused. The tree or trees in Israel are the ones that are going to protect the Jews. I.e on the final hour where every Jews will hide that thing will speak and say "kill the Jew he is hiding behind me" but this tree will be the only thing that will not say this and it will protect the Jews.

And the cave thing is Gooj Majooj. I.e them are some people they will be east orientals, Jews, Hindus and Christan's who will attack Muslims.

Adz4eva
September 11th, 2005, 11:03 AM
Oh right so you have to claim to be a prophet nah thats something Bush hasnt done. Read few things about The Dajjal and heard from few friends about it anyone know the real story type it short cut for me please cant be asked to read a whole text of it. My mates man said it comes from some cave or something my mate said (dont quote him he wsnt sure that it was a tree located in Irael where he comes from with one eye.

Tell me me your 101% sure about the story

I heard alsorts of weird stories aswel but tbh didnt really find out for sure until I read up on it myself.

He is suppose to be a normal man, first who becomes a leader, then claims to be a prophet, and in the end he will claim to be God. He will fool alot of people because he will be able to perform miracles/magic, and the prophet PBUH did say, if you ever hear about him, do not go to him even to challenge him, because he will even be able to fool the believers. It is suppose to be one of the biggest and hardest tests for muslims, and at that point muslims will be at an all time low anyway. The prophet PBUH even said that every single prophet warned his people about the dajjal, but he told us something which no other prophet said, the dajjal will be recognised by his one eye. Well he will have 2 eyes, but one will be protruding, he will only see through one eye I think. There are loads of hadith on the dajjal, but strangely I dont think he is mentioned at all in the Quran, maybe someone else can correct me on that though.

icemannn
September 11th, 2005, 11:06 AM
His getting the story confused. The tree or trees in Israel are the ones that are going to protect the Jews. I.e on the final hour where every Jews will hide that thing will speak and say "kill the Jew he is hiding behind me" but this tree will be the only thing that will not say this and it will protect the Jews.

And the cave thing is Gooj Majooj. I.e them are some people they will be east orientals, Jews, Hindus and Christan's who will attack Muslims.
Yajooj and majooj are a tribe of people that are locked up at the moment apparantly behind a wall. When God gives the command, they'll break the wall and attack. One clue to who they are is a hadith that says (to the effect) that they'll be flat faced...

icemannn
September 11th, 2005, 11:10 AM
I heard alsorts of weird stories aswel but tbh didnt really find out for sure until I read up on it myself.

He is suppose to be a normal man, first who becomes a leader, then claims to be a prophet, and in the end he will claim to be God. He will fool alot of people because he will be able to perform miracles/magic, and the prophet PBUH did say, if you ever hear about him, do not go to him even to challenge him, because he will even be able to fool the believers. It is suppose to be one of the biggest and hardest tests for muslims, and at that point muslims will be at an all time low anyway. The prophet PBUH even said that every single prophet warned his people about the dajjal, but he told us something which no other prophet said, the dajjal will be recognised by his one eye. Well he will have 2 eyes, but one will be protruding, he will only see through one eye I think. There are loads of hadith on the dajjal, but strangely I dont think he is mentioned at all in the Quran, maybe someone else can correct me on that though.
No, hes not mentioned in the Qu'ran but he's mentioned in a LOT of strong hadith. The person we call Messi'ah Dajjal (the false messiah) will be called Messiah by the Jews. Which is quite interestin cuz jews are still waiting for the messiah, cuz they reject prophet Jesus (AS) (the true Messiah). It all falls in to place when u think about it. Apparantly, the christians and muslims will both fight against him, then the christians will turn against the muslims after he is beaten.

Read the book "Dajjal - the anti-christ" from Ahmad Thompson. Its really good.

Adz4eva
September 11th, 2005, 11:17 AM
No, hes not mentioned in the Qu'ran but he's mentioned in a LOT of strong hadith. The person we call Messi'ah Dajjal (the false messiah) will be called Messiah by the Jews. Which is quite interestin cuz jews are still waiting for the messiah, cuz they reject prophet Jesus (AS) (the true Messiah). It all falls in to place when u think about it. Apparantly, the christians and muslims will both fight against him, then the christians will turn against the muslims after he is beaten.

Read the book "Dajjal - the anti-christ" from Ahmad Thompson. Its really good.

Yeah I thought so, because iv never come across him in the english translation of the Quran, and your right it does all fall into place perfectly. He is suppose to lead the jews anyway, and they are still waiting for the 'messiah'. Didnt know that the christians would oppose him, but I can understand that because they are also waiting for the 'anti-christ', so it would make sense that they recognise dajjal too. It doesnt say that only muslims will be able to recognise him, rather the 'believers'.

Will try get hold of the book and have a read, nice one bro.

icemannn
September 11th, 2005, 11:23 AM
Yeah I thought so, because iv never come across him in the english translation of the Quran, and your right it does all fall into place perfectly. He is suppose to lead the jews anyway, and they are still waiting for the 'messiah'. Didnt know that the christians would oppose him, but I can understand that because they are also waiting for the 'anti-christ', so it would make sense that they recognise dajjal too. It doesnt say that only muslims will be able to recognise him, rather the 'believers'.

Will try get hold of the book and have a read, nice one bro.
It gets a LOT deeper tho bro. U have to get into all the stuff about Freemasons and how they're establishing a one world government, which will suit the Dajjal just right! One of their symbols is the one eye (or the all seeing eye). If u dont know, freemasons are a secret society established by the west, and what used to be called the Knights Templars.
The stuffs really intense and deep, if u havent already heard about it.
U heard that tape - from the shadows by Halaqah media? I can send it u if u want. Tells u a lot about all this.

Adz4eva
September 11th, 2005, 11:51 AM
It gets a LOT deeper tho bro. U have to get into all the stuff about Freemasons and how they're establishing a one world government, which will suit the Dajjal just right! One of their symbols is the one eye (or the all seeing eye). If u dont know, freemasons are a secret society established by the west, and what used to be called the Knights Templars.
The stuffs really intense and deep, if u havent already heard about it.
U heard that tape - from the shadows by Halaqah media? I can send it u if u want. Tells u a lot about all this.

I use to have that tape yeah, if you have it on your pc as an audio file, let me know how big it is, been trying to get hold of it for ages. But yeah iv heard of freemasons, knights templars, illuminati etc.

The thing that got to me the most was, the prophet PBUH said that you will recognise him by the one eye, and the american 1 dollar has the one eye symbol right there on it.

donmega
October 1st, 2005, 12:22 AM
I have qadyani neighbours and everytime the anniversary of his death comes they sit on the toilet for the whole day and try to reenact his death.


I always had suspicions about ur posts and ur facts
but this proves ur nothing but a fake jahil retard :mad:

thats a joke. The rest of it is serious

MolviCorleone
October 1st, 2005, 06:27 AM
Well only a fool will believe what Mirza Ghulam Qadiani had to say after all the Quran clearly states Hazrat Mohammad (PBUH) was the last prohphet and whoever claims to be a prophet after him is a hypocrite.

Also I doubt Mirza was the Dajjal, would've effected the whole world.


not THE dajjal but a mini dajjal, there was a hadith that therell be 30 before the real one.

nass
October 1st, 2005, 06:53 AM
He died, a shameful death. Shaikh Sana'Ullah Amistri, made du'aa to Allaah, saying which ever on of us is false, may his death come first. Hence that the du'aa was accepted and Mirza Ghulum Ahmed died.
Now wonder on their website they write that two scholors are the worst enemy of Qadiani's, Ehsaan Elahi Zaheer and Sana'Ullah Amisti, Rahimullah.

nass
October 1st, 2005, 06:55 AM
how can u be a muslim if u dont believe that Muhammad (PBUH) was the last prophet from Allah (SWAT)???
True

suhailio
October 1st, 2005, 07:04 AM
He was the leader of the Ahmadiyya movement he claimed to be a Muslim. He claimed to be a prophet and a better version of Mohammed (pbuh) he made the statements to the effect that cholera is a sign of Allah wrath on mankind for their wrongdoing, then wound up dying in the same manner, is pretty comical. Obviously, that wouldn't be the case if it weren't for his body of words & action as a 'religious leader,' and who he was in general - a heretic & a dajjal who was directly responsible for misleading thousands of individuals about true Islam.

this verse describes the situation so much!!

And who can be more unjust than he who invents a lie against Allah, or says: "I have received inspiration," whereas he is not inspired in anything; and who says, "I will reveal the like of what Allah has revealed." And if you could but see when the wrong-doers are in the agonies of death, while the angels are stretching forth their hands (saying): "Deliver your soul! This day you shall be recompensed with the torment of degradation because of what you used to utter against Allah other than the truth. And you used to reject His signs (revelations) with disrespect!"
(The Holy Quran, Al-Anam, 6:93)



For years, Mirza Ghulam Qadiani attributed outrageous lies to Allah (http://www.irshad.org/glossary.php#Allah)(SWT (http://www.irshad.org/glossary.php#SWT)): he claimed to be Mehdi, the Promised Messiah, a reincarnation of Muhammad (http://www.irshad.org/glossary.php#Muhammad)(SAW (http://www.irshad.org/glossary.php#SAW)), a new improved Prophet, Hindu Lord, and a manifestation of God. He said he was in direct communication with Allah and claimed that his revelations were divine in nature. It is fitting that Allah(SWT) made his death a testimony to his falsehood. His sudden death proved his following prophecies to have been untrue:

His prophecy that he (Mirza) will live to be 80 or more years old (http://www.irshad.org/qadianism/prophecy.php#LongLife);
(He died when he was only 68 year old.)
His prophecy that he would marry Muhammadi Begum (http://www.irshad.org/qadianism/propheca.php), before his death;
(He never did marry Muhammadi Begum.)
The claim (and Mubahala challenge) that Moulvi Sanaullah of Amristar (http://www.irshad.org/exposed/sana.php), his arch opponent who had openly called him a liar and an impostor, will die before him;
("The liar will die first" - Mirza died first!)
His prophecy that Dr. Abdul Hakim (http://www.irshad.org/qadianism/prophecg.php), one of his opponents who had called him a liar during an open debate, will die within Mirza's life time;
(he said "The liar will die first". But, Mirza died first!)
The prophecy (and Mubahala challenge) that Mr. Abdullah Atham (http://www.irshad.org/qadianism/prophecb.php), a Christian who had debated with Mirza Ghulam and put him to shame, will die before him;
(Mirza had said: "the liar will die first" - Yet, Mirza died first!)
His revelation that Allah(SWT) will bestow upon him a great new son (http://www.irshad.org/qadianism/prophecd.php), a sign of Allah(SWT)'s presence and proof of his prophethood;
(Mirza died without having another son.)
His claim that Allah(SWT) had revealed to him (http://www.irshad.org/qadianism/prophecy.php#marriages) that he would marry many more virtuous women;
(After the prophecy, he did not marry anyone else.)
His prophecy that he (Mirza) will marry a widow (http://www.irshad.org/qadianism/prophecy.php#Widow), before his death;
(After the prophecy, he did not marry anyone else.)
His prophecy that he will die in Mekkah or Medina (http://www.irshad.org/qadianism/prophecy.php#Mekkah).
(Mirza died in the city of Lahor; he never saw Mekkah or Medina.)


Bashir Ahmad, the son of Mirza Ghulam, wrote in his biography: "My mother informed me that 'the first attack of looseness of bowels upon the Promised Messiah occurred when he was at his dining room table. Later, I started pressing his legs and he lay in comfort and slept and soon I too slept. After a short while, he again felt the call of nature and he used the bathroom a couple of times without awakening me, After this he felt very weak; he shook me up and laid down on my bed. I recommenced pressing. In a few minutes he told me to go to bed but I refused and continued to press. Once again he had an urge and, being too weak to go to the lavatory, I made arrangement for him close to the bed. He sat down and relieved himself. Next, he laid himself back on my bed and I started pressing again. His weakness grew intense; he had another motion, accompanied this time by vomiting. This paralyzed him so much that when trying to lay back on the bed, he fell on his back and hit his head on the bed post. His condition alarmed me...'."
(Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 1, P. 11-12; Sirat-ul-Mehdi, P.109)


Basically, if you didn't read all that he die while he had the shits he slipped off his own shit a died. lol

anyways, i heard mirza ghulam also labelled the train as being the dajjal...

word on the street is that he got transported to his burial ground on the back of the 'dajjal'... lol

I have qadyani neighbours and everytime the anniversary of his death comes they sit on the toilet for the whole day and try to reenact his death.


yehh he was a jabroni man..propa prik

Street_Scholar
January 16th, 2006, 05:21 PM
You have to believe in the final prophet.